good thread Arsenal won't drop out of the top 4, they always seem to find a way in there by any means how, whether its lasagna or starting like a train they will get in there, Tottenham i don't think have a cat in hells chance, on their day they can beat anyone but they drop too many silly points against the bottom teams to ever be consistent top 4 contenders. Man.City will be stronger although im not too sure how many of their players have that win at all cost's mentality, they could pay for letting Vieira go and Utd's season will depend on how De Gea settles, if he starts nervously there introuble, remember their kerfuffle after Schmeichel left them? Liverpool might be top 4 contenders at a push but the title is a no no, we hear many theories every summer how this year will be their year after they end the season strongly and after about 2 months it becomes obvious there team were overhyped again. This is a glorious chance for us to win the league if we get the right players in and AVB get's the players on side and believing in his way. As for Europe Barca may be the best team in the world but are defiantly beatable, both Jose and Guus have proved in recent years that with the right tactics they can not only be matched but battered, lets be honest if Drogba finished better and we had a better ref Iniesta's goal would have been a mere consolation. Real again can be beaten but i do fancy them for La Liga, Jose stopped Arsenal when they looked un-stoppable and i think he will do it with Barca, id dread facing Real in Europe more than Barca but then again under AVB we might have a chance against Jose this time.