Kojo

The only player i want to see gone full stop is Malouda, he just isn't good enough anymore, it's not a form thing. Lampard, if he can keep his previous performance up against Bolton then he will find himself with more game time, Anelka the same, he should get another year if he keeps this up, very good allround technical player who offers a lot, experienced and willing to stay on the bench, brilliant player he is when he wants to be. I think we made a mistake not getting rid of some players and not buying them either, it's good to buy youth but we also needed a few more players who could fill in positions and make improvement, also add challenge. So holding out is our main option so far this season, hopefully we will get the best out of all our players and do really well this season, also meaning AVB will stay at Chelsea.

Why do you think that?, he's not clumsy he goes in for the tackle and if he gets it wrong people think he's clumsy. The one against Birmingham was uncessary yes!, but what he's doing is making a name for himself, if he got it right and got the ball, the oppesition would know he's a fucking beast, defenders have to make reputations for themselves, so it unerves the oppenent, especially defenders like David Luiz. You can go on about all this experience he needs but at the end of the day what experience?, i don't think it will make him better, it will just make him be less aggressive, and i would much rather have him more aggressive, because he's better that way. You can't have a defender to perfect, it's just not possible, you have to pshycic, every big tackle is a gamble, and when people want him to be less 'clumsy', that will be meaning he will be giving oppenents more time on the ball instead of closing them down, now if he does that and the oppesition score. People will complain about how much Luiz is giving the openent time on the ball, people just need to accept David Luiz is that defender who will make mistakes, because he simply has to, no one can be that perfect.

I should of credited you on my post to be honest, i do remember it was you who used to go on about Vidic making more mistakes than Luiz, totally agree with that. Very good post you made there, the Liverpool match he basically almost got man of the match and he only played 20 minutes as you said, brilliant defender, he got a bit out of form after the stoke match but he was never under performing. Luiz is a player who puts tackles in and basically is the daring one in the defence, he will go for that slide tackle, and you have to accept players like that are going to get cards and make mistakes. However with Luiz positves totally outweight the negatives by miles, he has done so much for us and only at 24 he should have a very good future, the reason why i made this thread is i don't see why people name him as a clumsy and reckless defender, when he clearly isn't, you need to take a look at other defenders in his catagory. Vidic as probably the biggest example.

I've only ever made one thread, so i was thinking of making another one, just wanted to see what everyone else thought on these remarks we keep getting on David Luiz. When we bought David Luiz and he ended up scoring against City and United and putting 10/10 performances in, people where going on about how good he was and he could be the best defender in a few years time, eversince our international break and we played stoke and we were very lucky to draw 1-1, he wasn't in the best of form, but he wasn't bad. It then came to the United match, we had kick off (i believe), lost the ball right away, very poor, John Terry is trying to do the offside trap with no one else participating, Luiz gets the shit because Hernandez was on his side, yes you would of expected better from David Luiz. But it's a gamble, he made a choice to stick a foot in and try and get the ball before Hernandez got it, unfortunately for him and us he got it wrong. Even now with him back on form, our defender who has been putting in man of the match performances in the back 4, all i hear from commentators is 'ahh well that's the problem, he's to clumsy, needs much more experiece', now this winds me up, any of you people get very sick of this?, this has also changed many other supporters views on David Luiz, other clubs see him as overrated and a very clumsy defender. For me he is just like any other defender in his catagory, take a look at Pepe for Real Madrid, brilliant tackler, makes sure you don't get past him, puts the shits up you and when you get near him, you wont have the ball for much longer, however he concedes many silly free kicks, penalties and has been sent off many times, the same could definitely be said about Vidic also. Samuel for Inter Milan is also similar, David Luiz is a very talented defender and has a huge swag about him when he's on form, he can do anything, even if it means going on a forward run and pick out a pass or go for a shot. Very entertaining and exciting centre back, however i don't think he gets enough credit, as a matter of fact he seems to get talked down to by a lot of people, commentators and writers, what are your thoughts on it?.

I'll agree with badboy there, most people on here do have tinted glasses when it comes to Terry, when he underperforms he never gets as much shit as the others do if they under perform. He is a legend and what i love him most is he's been at our club his whole life, should we sell him?, we would be mad to do that, he is our leader in back 4, you just see how bad our defence would be without him. You need your leaders in the back four, the ones who sort it out, and John Terry is one of the best ones you can get. We shouldn't of sold him, but this season he's been average so far, last game solid, but average in overall this season. And we should do with him what we did with Lampard, play someone else and not give him automatic starting, hopefully it will do him good.

Yeah it's close between them, but like Zoyales said Sturridge won us the match with the first 3 goals. Everyone played pretty well in this match to be fair, and Drogba, well if he had scored it would of been a different story, he made good movement and he wasn't bad at all, he just didn't score, but if he did it would of been a different story in my opinion. Didn't play bad at all i don't think.

No one was that disrespectful at all, just becaues of a record and a reputation you can't keep someone in the team forever if there playing bad, and Lampard was doing just that, what are we to just be blind and not have a say about it?, no way, Lampard was playing bad and starting all the time, everyone knows he's a good bloke and a legend at this club, but when your playing bad your playing bad, a name or record can't change that moment in time.

Lmao!!!, i could just imagine that, we should all go and have a forum war with Red Cafe and spam there boards to death.

Agree with you there, Everton are very good at set pieces, defending them by all means is a must. WIth out recent performances and the team playing well, i think we will win this match, i have confidence we will win, not comfortably, it's not going to be an easy game for us, we are not fully there yet and unproven, this will be a big test when it comes to playing very good sides. Everton have had the better over us for the past 2 years, no matter what it was like a force field was blocking the way of us winning, when we where in the lead they would grab a last minute equaliser, even if it was by a championship striker. I think we should just attack this, Ramires-Meireles-Lampard. Also do you guys think we should use Meireles more?, i have still yet to see him go more forward, at Liverpool he was fucking brilliant at getting forward and causing problems, we havent let him do that yet, we keep playing him way to deep in my opinion, we probably could do with resting Ramires this match anyway, if we do be interesting to see if Meireles plays there, he's at his very best there in my opinion when he's attacking.

I refuse to feel sorry for them, because i know one day i'll regret it. Like i did with Liverpool last season, i felt sorry for them losing constantly, and now, i fucking hate the scum and there fans who go on about history 24/7. And with Arsenal i feel it could be the same, they are an unlucky team however, little goes there way nowdays, Arsenal always used to get easy cup routes also, now they seem to get the likes of Undinese the hardest you could of got in the qualifiers. But yes i would much rather have them in top 4 than Liverpool, cannot stand Liverpool, a team who constantly overrate there players.

Many of there supporters go on about how unlucky they are, and they are right to be fair, but you hold a very good point it's the easiset thing to blame there lack of fortune. It must definitely be a problem, it might not be training as i suggested but it most be something, it's one big coincidence if it isn't. But yeah better for us i suppose.

We could do with getting rid of some players, Ferriera i would keep him if he was willing to reduce his wages, it's good to an experienced fullback, you can't just have a backup of young players, Arsenal do that and look what always happens to them when most of there first eleven gets injured. Alex is a big problem, i highly rate him, one of my favourite players but his form this season has been terrible, great game in the stoke match, probably man of the match then, but lately i've been dissapointed in him. If he keeps it up then he has to go. Midfield we are very short of options, we will end up selling Benayoun and then we can go buy a playmaker maybe?, but who knows if AVB can work something out with our team this season i could be saying different at the end of the season. Forwards we need to be getting rid of a few, Malouda, he just isn't good enough anymore, not form, he's had time to pick it back up, he's just not good enough. Kalou, don't have to explain, Drogba, amazing player, legend, but i think this has to be his last season i'm afraid, we can't keep keeping these legends and not getting replacements and leaving our chances for youth, it's for the best, but we will miss him. Keep Anelka if he keeps it up, he deserves another year, it's proof, last season he was just lazy, and lacked motivation because Carlo sucked at it, Wilkins was a big help in the motivation and that's what screwed up the team when he left. So yes we could do with a winger to give us more attacking options definitely, second striker i don't know if we can find one who is willing to be benched most games, the only one i can suggest in our team is Anelka, but he's not great at it, however he's experienced, can work with Torres and is willing to sit on the bench, it's probably just wages what he wants at the end of the day. But yes personally i just think we need a winger in our attacking options, a right footed one definitely who is willing to be our crosser, depending on how good Kakuta does i think i will decide what i think at the end of the season if we need a replacement for Malouda.

It must be what they do in training what's getting them injured, Wenger must be having them do very hard work or awkward work. It's just unbelievable how they are getting injured all the time, it can't just be coincidence that every player who goes to Arsenal turns injury prone... can it?.

Lampard was outstanding, but i have to vote Sturridge, i think he caused problems and made some brilliant movement, i'll admit i'm probably over crediting him for adapting to the right wing in that match. But like i said he was a menace to Bolton, no one gives him credit on the corner, it wasn't awful defending, the dude should of marked him more, but he got no credit at all for scoring that goal. Still a very good goal, if i was him i wouldn't of even knew it was going to me, it looked like it was going to Ramires at first. But still i always have to vote for the dangerman of our team when it comes to man of the match, and for me that was Sturridge, he scored and pulled strings.

Bolton aren't that bad to get relegated, they are better than the likes of Wigan and Blackburn I think. Wolves have a good team, I don't know how they get battered most of the time...

Saha just knows how to score against us, even at United he did.

Can anyone tell me if he's been any good at Wigan?, i saw the last match for Wigan, highlights only, he didn't mark Darren Bent very well and allowed him to score, not a nice thing to see, but the other centre back was at fault also.

depends if he keeps playing well, hopefully he does. Today he showed how well him and Mata are at working with each other, they switch positions and were good when doing it, we might do very well this season if we keep playing like this.

It's fucking stupid, Carroll has been awful, he was even bad in the Everton match, the only good thing he did was score, his link up with Suarez was poor, he gave the ball away tonnes of times, in that match he showed all he can do is finish, his other technical skills where awful. Amazing how he gets a nod over Sturridge, Capello doesn't have a clue. Also don't know how he can leave Abaonglahor out, he's been world class so far this season, scoring goals for fun and turning players inside out, amazing how he hasn't been called up, Capello has no logic.

When everyone said Wales should be an easy win, i said i bet it wont be, because when we have expectations like that something goes wrong, and it did, we were very lucky to get 3 points out of that game.

Capello has something against Sturridge he really does, last season Sturridge was brilliant for Bolton, but no call up, Welbeck was playing for Sunderland and got a call up, and Sturridge was scoring goal after goal. Even now after a good performance still over looked, don't get me wrong it is less chance of injury and going out of form but it's just weird how much he's over looked by capello.

You have watched much more Bolton games than me, i probably watched about 6-7 games of them last season, including all match of the day highlights, but that doesn't count that much. I don't think he's a terrible player at all, i think he's good, he can't be that bad, because i havent seen him that bad. It's good you've noticed wheaters ability, i've watched him play many times, mostly for Middlesbrough and he was always good, went on a dip last season with them when Strachan was manager, but i already explained why that is. And i thought Gardner was a natural left winger?, i usually see him there, my bad. I still think Davies is a good player despite he is getting old, he offers ability still. I don't think there a bad team, i think they will get better, there is worse teams in my opinion. Cahill, saw him in every bolton match last season, was solid defender, you watching more games you possibly do have a more solid opinion than i do, and truthful, but i think Cahill is very good, did well for England too, certainly not an average defender, a good one who should be playing for a better team than Bolton, Spurs would suit him, i agree he's not world class, but he's a good defender.

Lol, he did at first when he scored the goal, must of been a big rush for him then remembered and yeah, stopped. Still though very good lad, and he knows how much Bolton done for his career.

I think Bolton are a good team, they definitely need a striker no doubt about it, and they could definitely do with another central midfielder, Gardner operates on the wing more, i rate Petrov quite a lot, i think he's got a great left foot, good at cutting in and on the left, Kakuta also they have to play on the left, so Petrov can also play on the right and cut in. Kevin Davies is a good player, bit of a cunt when your the oppesition because of his tackling, but he's good at holding the ball up and doing what he does, being a big nuisence. Reo Coker good player i think, i think he will do well for Bolton, but i definitely think they need another midfielder. Defence is pretty good to be honest, Zat Knight i agree, but have you ever seen David Wheater play?, well i have, as a boro lad i know how good David Wheater is and he's a very special player, he was always going to make it into premier league, last season for the boro he was very poor because he got big headed and new he was going to go into the premier league, especially how he drives his new cars everyday around my area like he doesn't give a fuck, also had a car crash before he left lol, but forget all that, i think Wheater is a very talented player he will definitely be good for Bolton i know he will, he just has a bad attitude. Robinson was pretty poor, but Sturridge is such a tricky player it's wasn't easy for him to deal with. And as for there right backfrom Iceland, forgot his name i've seen him been pretty solid also. And i don't have to explain about Cahill do i?, i think there a good team, they should be able to finish mid table, not a team who should be fighting for relegation, Elmander offered them a lot yes, but midfield is a problem for them more than anything really, don't know why that Klasnic wasn't playing either... he's scored 3 goals this season... must of been injured. Though it's a matter of opinion i suppose, but i think there a good team, they've had it hard and i doubt they'll be like this for long, they've got there big games out of the way, now they can fully concenrate on having a new start.

I think he's much better than Welbeck, Welbeck relies on too much assistance, where Sturridge can craft magic out of nothing, i think he's a much better shooter too and has a lot more trickery, i find him more special than Welbeck. I bet during this season the media will have Sturridge Vs Welbeck debate.