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Neymar

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Too much for good but unproven player, I don't know what is wrong with Santos.

Thats why Santos dont want to sell hum now, he is still a unproven player and is very young, I dont think it will be a good idea he leaving Brazil at this stage in his career, but I do believe that he is hoping Chelsea will improve the offer and Santos would accept.

Chelsea was listed by him one of the clubs he dream playing for (not sure if that sentence is correct)

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Thats why Santos dont want to sell hum now, he is still a unproven player and is very young, I dont think it will be a good idea he leaving Brazil at this stage in his career, but I do believe that he is hoping Chelsea will improve the offer and Santos would accept.

Chelsea was listed by him one of the clubs he dream playing for (not sure if that sentence is correct)

I´m sure if Santos is waiting for him to prove himself as a much more talent player... but for tha club 17.5 Millions is not there problem... is a lot of money for them..... and if Neymar is good or not... won be a problem for santos..

In my case I did not know that Neymar had Chelsea in there Drems teams... that very new for me... besides Aguero this is the first time I hear someone telling Chelsea are in there list... I hope is true.

In any case, for me every brasilian player just have 4 teams in there minds.... Real Madrid, AC Milan, BArcelona, and Inter..... in that order...

SO I WILL CONSIDER THIS AGAIN AS A FULL FAIL FROM US... for a simple Reason .... 17,5 for a young player is to much of good offers unless some else is waiting for more than that. And I´m sure there won be any other offer for him, so case Close no Neymar

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I´m sure if Santos is waiting for him to prove himself as a much more talent player... but for tha club 17.5 Millions is not there problem... is a lot of money for them..... and if Neymar is good or not... won be a problem for santos..

In my case I did not know that Neymar had Chelsea in there Drems teams... that very new for me... besides Aguero this is the first time I hear someone telling Chelsea are in there list... I hope is true.

In any case, for me every brasilian player just have 4 teams in there minds.... Real Madrid, AC Milan, BArcelona, and Inter..... in that order...

SO I WILL CONSIDER THIS AGAIN AS A FULL FAIL FROM US... for a simple Reason .... 17,5 for a young player is to much of good offers unless some else is waiting for more than that. And I´m sure there won be any other offer for him, so case Close no Neymar

Two things:

1 - Its is changing...lots of young talents leave Brazil for the price of a banana, then become priceless world superstars, but european pay 30 million for european players like Berbatov, Carrick, Wright Philips. Brazilian clubs are realising that they cant simple sell they players when the first offer appear. Brazil is not that poor.

2 - Its also changing. I dont think that english guys realise how the brand Chelsea changed in last 6, 7 years. Chelsea in Brazil is as popular as Real Madrid, Barcelona, Milan and Manchester and is more popular than Inter. Chelsea is also more popular than Liverpool and Arsenal, for sure. Chelsea is not that far of becoming the biggest club in the world, as Peter Kenyon planned years ago. Premier League is really popular here nowadays.

at 6:00, he answear wich are the clubs he would like to play: Barcelona, Real Madrid, Manchester, Chelsea, Milan....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d4HSKT6PUs

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Two things:

1 - Its is changing...lots of young talents leave Brazil for the price of a banana, then become priceless world superstars, but european pay 30 million for european players like Berbatov, Carrick, Wright Philips. Brazilian clubs are realising that they cant simple sell they players when the first offer appear. Brazil is not that poor.

2 - Its also changing. I dont think that english guys realise how the brand Chelsea changed in last 6, 7 years. Chelsea in Brazil is as popular as Real Madrid, Barcelona, Milan and Manchester and is more popular than Inter. Chelsea is also more popular than Liverpool and Arsenal, for sure. Chelsea is not that far of becoming the biggest club in the world, as Peter Kenyon planned years ago. Premier League is really popular here nowadays.

at 6:00, he answear wich are the clubs he would like to play: Barcelona, Real Madrid, Manchester, Chelsea, Milan....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d4HSKT6PUs

Well I like to see that Chelsea is consider in Brazil as one of the big teams... that is Good news for us... in special because there is no question about Brazil is one of the biggest producer of talent players in the world... that might give us a little more chances to get good players... For me what U just wrote are great news

In the other matter about money U are right about 1 thing... Brasil Give a lot of good player and just Because on Team from Europe came with some Euros U have to sell them... but there is one thing... 17.5 Million for a 17 years old without be tested in the mayor league of futbol... is a lot o money from my point of view... now.... If I would be Santos President obviosly I will not get in a Hurry saling Neymar... because at this point if chelsea offer 17.5 next year maybe are 20.... or other offers more... I can Understandt that...

But Well.... if It is for me... I sure his mind is clear we are not the First choice for him Spanish Big Club are..

No matter how the thing well finish he is a Great Player no doubt about it I thing he will be better than Robinho...

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Well I like to see that Chelsea is consider in Brazil as one of the big teams... that is Good news for us... in special because there is no question about Brazil is one of the biggest producer of talent players in the world... that might give us a little more chances to get good players... For me what U just wrote are great news

In the other matter about money U are right about 1 thing... Brasil Give a lot of good player and just Because on Team from Europe came with some Euros U have to sell them... but there is one thing... 17.5 Million for a 17 years old without be tested in the mayor league of futbol... is a lot o money from my point of view... now.... If I would be Santos President obviosly I will not get in a Hurry saling Neymar... because at this point if chelsea offer 17.5 next year maybe are 20.... or other offers more... I can Understandt that...

But Well.... if It is for me... I sure his mind is clear we are not the First choice for him Spanish Big Club are..

No matter how the thing well finish he is a Great Player no doubt about it I thing he will be better than Robinho...

I agree...in this case is a little differente. Neymar manager asserts that the offer is 20 million euros. Its good even for trasantions between two european big clubs. Villas was sold for 24, di Maria for 25, and Davi Silva for 22.

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I agree...in this case is a little differente. Neymar manager asserts that the offer is 20 million euros. Its good even for trasantions between two european big clubs. Villas was sold for 24, di Maria for 25, and Davi Silva for 22.

Villa was sold for €40 million and David Silva for €29 million and RX8 the Brazilian league is very competitive and very under rated plus Neymar is 18 not 17.

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This would be a very exciting signing if we can manage to pull it off. For us to bring over one the top prospects in Brazil would be great and to see him develop into a world star at Chelsea.....

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Its goin g to be very difficult if they are requesting £30m, as it is obvious we won't go to that price.

Didn't he have a release clause of 28 mil? Anyway I think it's too much money for a 17 year old. The risk if he flops is massive. We'd be better served if we wait another year, and then get Lukaku onece his schooling is done.

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Didn't he have a release clause of 28 mil? Anyway I think it's too much money for a 17 year old. The risk if he flops is massive. We'd be better served if we wait another year, and then get Lukaku onece his schooling is done.

Im sure i read something yesterday where they were saying we would only have to go up to about £21m to make the deal happen if the player wants to go, yes it's a lot of money. But we either pay the money and hope his talent transforms to the PL or we let him go elsewhere and wish we could sign him for over £40m in a few years time, just look at Pato.........

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But dont City have the option of first refusal on Santos's players ?!? Im sure if they do agree on 21m fee, City wud be ter just to scupper our deal :(

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It looks like there is a remote Chance yet!!... I hope Neymar decide to move to Chelsea

Neymar torn over Chelsea move as Brazilian wonderkid considers forcing Santos exit

By Ashley Gray

Last updated at 9:30 AM on 22nd July 2010

Brazilian wonderkid Neymar is deciding whether to force a move from Santos to Chelsea.

The Blues had a £17million bid for the 18-year-old rejected on Tuesday and Santos insist they will not do business for less than the player's £29.6m release clause.

However, the forward is wary of turning down an opportunity to join one of the best clubs in the world after already missing out on a move to West Ham.

article-1296734-0A836503000005DC-959_468x286.jpg Plenty to ponder: Brazilian wonderkid Neymar must decide whether to force his move to Chelsea from Santos

Neymar signed a five-year deal with the Brazilian club little more than six months ago, but Santos are already looking at ways to involve sponsors in a bid to improve his salary.

His agent Wagner Ribeiro said: 'I'm having a meeting with the boy's parents and another with Santos, but most important of all is what the boy wants.

'If he says he wants to leave, we'll have to negotiate with Santos and the investment group (who own 40 per cent of Neymar's rights) and we will try to talk to Chelsea about the price.

article-1296734-097281D9000005DC-79_224x423.jpgarticle-1296734-0A7A2957000005DC-91_224x423.jpg Transfer tussle: Man City have first refusal on Neymar but Chelsea made first bid

'But what tips the scales will be the boy himself. He is not ready to go to Europe - no boy of his age is - but he already knows what he wants.'

Manchester City have first refusal on Neymar and must be offered the same terms of any bid accepted by Santos.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1296734/Neymar-torn-Chelsea-Brazilian-wonderkid-ponders-Santos-exit.html#ixzz0uQ3tIJ1h

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Surely he would have some sort of say in that as the player. But im sure Robinho is telling him to go to City anyway...

Of course the player has a massive say, if he don't want to go to city then he won't! The last thing Robinho would do is to recommend City! I do hope this goes through now, would be an exciting prospect.

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Surely he would have some sort of say in that as the player. But im sure Robinho is telling him to go to City anyway...

i`m not so sure...he might be telling him not to go to Man City or England atall after his experience here..but i think Neymar seems to be his own man with his own mind and if he were to listen to anyone in Brazil it is more likely to be his family..he`s only known Robinho for a few months afterall,where as he has known his family all his life..and wether the reasons are purely for Neymar`s best interests or not, his family seem to be pushing for him to join Chelsea.

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