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[SinineUltra 1,164]

Theoretically, yes. But the only real problem is that its a gateway drug for more addictive drugs like heroine and cocaine.

But safer than cigarettes and alcohol.

Do you happen to know the mechanisms why? As far as I know cannabinoid receptors are not in the brain like opioid ones and how does it lower sperm count? Would appreciate an answer, mate.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

Do you happen to know the mechanisms why? As far as I know cannabinoid receptors are not in the brain like opioid ones and how does it lower sperm count? Would appreciate an answer, mate.

THC may be causing improper timing of sperms by direct stimulation or it may be bypassing natural inhibition mechanism. So sperms swim too fast too early. Sperms burn out before they reach the egg, well, atleast most of them.

Also sperms exposed to high levels of THC will have damaged acrosome. So, egg is not penetrated efficiently. Also reduced testosterone due to high levels of cannabinoids in the system.

Nonetheless, reduced sperm count and marijuana is not exactly a clear cut picture. I'd be more worried of the effects on the lungs rather than on the balls.

P.S. I'm not against its legalization.

[The_Flash 1,144]

Watching new Eddie Izzard dvd

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Biology

[Stingray 9,441]

Ah well done them, NOT, it is known to cause schizophrenia, lower sperm count, extreme hunger and well make you smell very bad

Hey miss. I like you but that is very bad informed. I even did the yearly university opening debate on the subject. The only thing that has a slight correlation is psychoticism. This however has clearly no causal origin. Meta-analyses illustrate no increased psychosis in the weed blowing population. Meaning: people that go weird on weed would have done so anyway.

This does not mean it is harmless btw. But the going crazy incidence is very, very minor.

[Spike 12,049]

Hey miss. I like you but that is very bad informed. I even did the yearly university opening debate on the subject. The only thing that has a slight correlation is psychoticism. This however has clearly no causal origin. Meta-analyses illustrate no increased psychosis in the weed blowing population. Meaning: people that go weird on weed would have done so anyway.

This does not mean it is harmless btw. But the going crazy incidence is very, very minor.

I can vouch for the hunger though. I really enjoyed all that food I ate last night. It's a mystery how habitual smokers are thin, though.

[The_Flash 1,144]

People are going on as if I made it up, there has been many studies and there is a real link between a lot of weed in young people leading to later signs of schizophrenia

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-126056/How-cannabis-trigger-schizophrenia.html

I really don't want to get into a boring debate. I really don't care. Each to their own, it's a personal choice.

Let's move on

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

Do you guys buy your stuff or grow it?

[The_Flash 1,144]

Moving on that new Izzard dvd is terrible so unfunny a shame because his earlier ones were hilarious

[Rmpr 8,977]

Do you NOT read? I said let's just ignore each other's posts, I am tired of your nonsense always after my posts

I dont care what you said, I will ignore you if I want to, not if you tell me!

I even tried to ignore you, but the amount of factually wrong stuff you say is absurd, I cant contain myself. The funny part is that I dont even need to prove it because other members already showed how wrong your posts are...

Above all, Uruguay legalized marijuana because the government wants to have more control over it and end up with the drug dealers and thugs who used to sell it. By doing so, they think they can sell it for less and prevent people from comitting crimes (which makes a lot of sense).

It has nothing to do with it being bad or not. They never said they are legalizing marijuana because it doesnt cause harm. All they are trying to do is provide a 'safe' way for people to produce and consume it.

Besides, there are a bunch of legal stuff that are a lot worse than marijuana anyway...

So, once again your logic goes to waist. You should really try to learn about the things you say beforing posting. It is reaching a laughable state!

[Peppen 934]

I dont care what you said, I will ignore you if I want to, not if you tell me!

I even tried to ignore you, but the amount of factually wrong stuff you say is absurd, I cant contain myself. The funny part is that I dont even need to prove it because other members already showed how wrong your posts are...

Above all, Uruguay legalized marijuana because the government wants to have more control over it and end up with the drug dealers and thugs who used to sell it. By doing so, they think they can sell it for less and prevent people from comitting crimes (which makes a lot of sense).

It has nothing to do with it being bad or not. They never said they are legalizing marijuana because it doesnt cause harm. All they are trying to do is provide a 'safe' way for people to produce and consume it.

Besides, there are a bunch of legal stuff that are a lot worse than marijuana anyway...

So, once again your logic goes to waist. You should really try to learn about the things you say beforing posting. It is reaching a laughable state!

They have been thinking about doing the exact same thing in Copenhagen, in an effort to decrease the violence and crime in relations to drug sales. Also, a state controlled production would be much more safe and even generate tax revenue.

A majority in the Copenhagen council actually voted in favor of a test period, to counter the gangs and their shady businesses.

Great idea IMO

[Sidzeret 2,257]

They have been thinking about doing the exact same thing in Copenhagen, in an effort to decrease the violence and crime in relations to drug sales. Also, a state controlled production would be much more safe and even generate tax revenue.

A majority in the Copenhagen council actually voted in favor of a test period, to counter the gangs and their shady businesses.

Great idea IMO

Good. We'll be seeing cigarettes with green butts by 2020, all over the world. #FreeTheWeed

[Stingray 9,441]

People are going on as if I made it up, there has been many studies and there is a real link between a lot of weed in young people leading to later signs of schizophrenia

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-126056/How-cannabis-trigger-schizophrenia.html

I really don't want to get into a boring debate. I really don't care. Each to their own, it's a personal choice.

Let's move on

Sigh ..... studies without a control group + done with people that also use other drugs which render the conclusions useless. Plus : the daily fail is no reference nor is Molecular Psychiatry. There is a reason why scientists go for cohort studies , randomised controlled trials, double blind studies and meta analyses.

The few studies done longitudinal (and with a clear group ONLY doing weed) prove the opposite effect. The control group had even more psychological diseases long term than groups who only vaporised weed.

So NO it is not each to their own here. This is not an opinion, this is about data.

Rmpr is correct : you seem only interested in putting forth your opinion, really. Don't disqualify stuff cause it does not fit in your world view after first making strong statements about it.

Also .... You should see my sperm count. It is awesomely humongous !!!

The eating is true indeed!

[Stingray 9,441]

its a gateway drug for more addictive drugs like heroine and cocaine.

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Also false. The stepping stone theory claims that users in time need 'harder drugs' to satisfy them such as cocaine, heroine, .... which is absolutely untrue and purely based on the idea that most (untrue statement btw) cocaine/heroine users at one point in time used marihuana.

The same can be said about alcohol and cigarettes, but no-one claims those substances to be the gateway for hard drugs. Major causality/correlation fuck up in this reasoning. Actually major cohorts of pep users (eg. speed and coke) do emphatically NOT use marihuana. The drinking on the other hand, they love :-)

Also, the research on sperm quality was done by Herbert Schuel from BUffalo University. He compared 22 weed smoking guys with 59 non smokers. He found indeed that the sperm in marihuana users is more active. This made him assume that they use up their energy too soon, which is purely hypothetical. Also, the N is too small. 22 is really laughable to draw these kind of conclusions. Also, in a lot of papers people from the anti lobby say these data are corroborated by other research. Then they refer to the the research of Sheena Lewis, Queens University who put THC directly in contact with sperm and saw their 'vigour' decrease. No shit Sherlock :-)

On the other hand you have the same amount of research that illustrates the opposite: one of the best documented beneficial effects is what Spike refers to: it has an effect on belancing your blood sugar levels (on a cohort of 4657 people) , making people thin, even after having the munchies too often :-)

Check it before you wack it. American journal of medicine.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002934313002003

or if you are a diabetic

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002934313003136

To top it off .... Research from The Trimbos institute in Holland where weed is readily available and permitted have illustrated that the legalisation actually resulted in a lower weed consumption all round - AND even in heavy users. EG. heavy users on average/year in Holland : 310 grams - in England 374 grams/year. Report is average users use less, by smaller portions and exhibit significant lower amount of aggression. Example: the Hooligan comparison when Belgium/holland organised the European championship. They want all fighting in Belgium after drinking our beer and none of that happened in Holland. Lol !!!

Final not: If you want to save the lungs, vaporize it. No burning proces here.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

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Also false. The stepping stone theory claims that users in time need 'harder drugs' to satisfy them such as cocaine, heroine, .... which is absolutely untrue and purely based on the idea that most (untrue statement btw) cocaine/heroine users at one point in time used marihuana.

The same can be said about alcohol and cigarettes, but no-one claims those substances to be the gateway for hard drugs. Major causality/correlation fuck up in this reasoning. Actually major cohorts of pep users (eg. speed and coke) do emphatically NOT use marihuana. The drinking on the other hand, they love :-)

Also, the research on sperm quality was done by Herbert Schuel from BUffalo University. He compared 22 weed smoking guys with 59 non smokers. He found indeed that the sperm in marihuana users is more active. This made him assume that they use up their energy too soon, which is purely hypothetical. Also, the N is too small. 22 is really laughable to draw these kind of conclusions. Also, in a lot of papers people from the anti lobby say these data are corroborated by other research. Then they refer to the the research of Sheena Lewis, Queens University who put THC directly in contact with sperm and saw their 'vigour' decrease. No shit Sherlock :-)

On the other hand you have the same amount of research that illustrates the opposite: one of the best documented beneficial effects is what Spike refers to: it has an effect on belancing your blood sugar levels (on a cohort of 4657 people) , making people thin, even after having the munchies too often :-)

Check it before you wack it. American journal of medicine.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002934313002003

or if you are a diabetic

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002934313003136

To top it off .... Research from The Trimbos institute in Holland where weed is readily available and permitted have illustrated that the legalisation actually resulted in a lower weed consumption all round - AND even in heavy users. EG. heavy users on average/year in Holland : 310 grams - in England 374 grams/year. Report is average users use less, by smaller portions and exhibit significant lower amount of aggression. Example: the Hooligan comparison when Belgium/holland organised the European championship. They want all fighting in Belgium after drinking our beer and none of that happened in Holland. Lol !!!

Final not: If you want to save the lungs, vaporize it. No burning proces here.

I already said there isn't a clear cut idea about marijuana use and decreased sperm count.

But I'm not so sure about it not being a gateway drug.

The basic principle is that a person with one drug behaviour is at the risk of progressing to another. It does have a pharmacological effect on the brain that increases the likelihood of using more drugs.The affiliation of weed users with drug using peers in settings that provide more opportunities to use harder drugs; supported by socialisation into an illicit drug subculture with favourable attitudes towards the use of other drugs. So those who use weed will eventually end up using heroine. The high usually becomes "not high enough" is most cases and people are gonna wanna try harder drugs and could lead to the domino effect.

I know its the unpopular opinion but and I do have friends who has been smoking pot for a long time who doesn't even smoke cigarettes, let alone do other illicit drugs. But the psychological risk is always there and its pretty higher than alcohol or cigarettes

I'm not against using weed if its just weed and there is no clear cut, proven health concerns as well.

P.S. I'll bong next time then.

Dios bendiga a Uruguay

[Stingray 9,441]

New trend according to the belgian press: giving your penis a footballers name.

I will baptise mine as The Hazard ! What the fuck did you expect :-) lmaoooo !!

[Spike 12,049]

New trend according to the belgian press: giving your penis a footballers name.

I will baptise mine as The Hazard ! What the fuck did you expect :-) lmaoooo !!

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I christen mine Van Damme. The penis from Brussles.

[Melanicus 5,208]

So, because it seems like we have tyranic admins (they are similar to my brains) on this site, I'm posting this life lesson here. Shame on you admins, your mother won't be proud.

Here's the lesson bitchez

You know when you go to the toilet to urinate and you pull your pants down take your dick out of your pants and look at it in the way, you'd look at your newly bought car? You want to urinate. But no, your brain says - you want to take a shit. So you, inferior to orders of tyranic organ in your head, put some paper in the toilet, so the water won't splash on your upper-thigh after your shit will make contact with water in toilet, and put some paper on the toilet, so you won't have a feeling you are sitting on someone's ass. When I put finger in someone's asshole, I'm pervert and weirdo, but when I put finger in someone's asshole with rubber glove I am fucking urologist. It's the same way with paper on toilet, just from different perspective. Okay, so you sit on the toilet to take a shit and then you want to pee again, but right when you are ready to pee the shit comes out of you. And then, only then, you pee.

It's the same thing in life, if you want to achieve something you have to do at least 3 things that are not connected to the thing you want to achieve.

And after you achieve what you want, you have to wipe your ass and flush the dirt.