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closed Chelsea 0-0 Sevilla

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Man of the Match   16 members have voted

  1. 1. Who is your Man of the Match?

    • Mendy
      3
    • James
      2
    • Silva
      1
    • Zouma
      0
    • Chilwell
      10
    • Kante
      0
    • Jorginho
      0
    • Mount
      0
    • Pulisic
      0
    • Havertz
      0
    • Werner
      0
    • Kovacic (sub)
      0
    • Ziyech (sub)
      0
    • Abraham (sub)
      0
    • Hudson-Odoi (sub)
      0

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if Zouma is in it, that's is a fucked back 4
he almost fucked us 3 or 4 times again, like he did last game
I would rather see Reece at CB than him
he is the worst passing, ball playing CB who starts for us in ages
he has 2017–18 Burnley level written all over him (the year they finished 7th)
he is only good for a hit n hope low block goon side
I agree zouma isn't the greatest...
But... I don't think rudiger or christensen is better.
In the air im happy with zouma. Ball at his feet he makes me nervous for sure.

Now that leaves tomori and I'd be absolutely fine with us going with a silva tomori 2 but I don't think it's likely to happen as for whatever reason tomori isn't that high in the current pecking order.
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19 minutes ago, Milan said:

I am not sure the incoming Man United match will improve somewhat these stats...

I dread the Manure game

I hate them so much, especially the way they get gifted a truly staggeringly historical amount of pens, most NOT deserved and many coming from that rotten cheat diver Bruno, who is fast becoming my most hated player in the EPL, after Hendo on the dippers (and can pass that berk up soon)

he has that rat faced, rat fucking overbite, like chomper Suarez (and both are racist as fuck too), that makes you want to strap on the old bovver boots for a quick jaw breaker

all that said

I am surprisingly not crazy vexed about tonight, as we got a clean sheet

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I feel like in games like this kai becomes a bit like a second striker and there's so much pressure on him to be the link between the midfield and attack that we csn struggle at times.

Not on kai but I think we need to drop into a 4-3-3 even if it isn't kais best position in moments like that.

Unpopular opinion but I'd have probably taken kai off and gone

Kante kova
Mount
Ziyech Werner pulisic

For the last 30 mins
I think that's our best hope this season, playing kai as a third cm.

He can play there and it helps us all over the place. Defensively, build up. Having him on the right means he can interchange with ziyech too.

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I didnt rate mount worse than pulisic. Christian was quite sloppy especially defensively

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15 minutes ago, Vesper said:

if Zouma is in it, that's is a fucked back 4

he almost fucked us 3 or 4 times again, like he did last game

I would rather see Reece at CB than him

he is the worst passing, ball playing CB who starts for us in ages

he has 2017–18 Burnley level written all over him (the year they finished 7th)

he is only good for a hit n hope low block goon side

We have picked up clean sheets in 2 of our last 3 games with Chilwell/Zouma/Silva at the back

 

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Looking very much like we are either going to be able to keep clean sheets and be not so effective in attack or effective in attack but not keep clean sheets. Cannot really get a read on this team, every game it seems to be different. We don't consistently do one thing well enough that you see every week and could identify as a trait or common pattern bar maybe the fact we utilize the fullbacks in the final third a lot. 

Good points: Reece James and Ben Chilwell tonight really solid defensively, more so Chilwell after Southampton where he wasn't good defensively if I am quite honest. Thiago Silva did the job well, still a bit more to come from him and well Zouma the guys who were saying he wasn't too bad on the ball, well I disagree, he is going to be a reason why we don't build so well among other things which is more due to other players positioning and the fact we aren't so stubborn on playing this way every time like with Maurizio. 

Suppose Rennes drawing as well, it means 1 point isnt too bad for a start. 

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IF we get 9 points out of 9 from the next 3 games - Krasnodar and Rennes (x2) - that should be enough to see us qualify for the KO stage before we go to Sevilla in the 5th game...

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Personally, I really do not know why we are playing 4231. That formation requires the players in the pivot to be tactically disciplined and strong in the tackle to work well. Jorgi and Kante aren't that. For me, just go with 433 as that formation allows Mount and Harvetz to play as No.8's or Mount even to move to a No.6 role which is probably where he will be effective as his best quality is pressing the ball and getting through the yards (or even James who I still maintain will become a CM before he is 24). Obviously, the No.4 position is a bit of an issue against sides that press high, but I really cannot handle Kante and Jorgi allow teams to run through them so much. 

As for the rest of the team, meh performance but happy to see some good defensive performances for Thiago, Mendy, James and Chilwell. As for Zouma he proved again he really isn't the right quality as again his lack of ability on the ball, clearance skills and reading of the game got him into trouble a couple of times. Personally, I rather AC as with Mendy in goal the need for Zouma's aerial ability isn't needed as much as when Kepa is there. 

This is not saying AC is great, but I rather him as he can actually pass the ball under pressure and has better positional sense. 

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did not watch the game, but too many conclusions about players here. Yes I also think Mendy improves our defense tremendously, but the only point that I'm allowed to make today is this:

It's presumable that defending, and our defensive weakness have been discussed ad nauseam (externally and esp internally) for the past few days. So, what likely happened today was that all players put an additional focus on defensive tasks, especially considering the strength of the opposition. That would have affected our attacking output without a doubt, as well improved our defending.

The key is to find that so important balance: getting to a point where the defense line is well-protected without spending too much energy in defensive tasks. in football everybody defends and everybody attacks. A quick transition from the back can be the difference between winning and losing a match. We are just not there yet.

Like some have said, the opposition is strong, so not a terrible result even at home.

 

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3 hours ago, Jason said:

The game perfectly summed up in one image...

 

I didn't watch the game, is it similar to palace 1st half? 

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Nice to see we can defend if we want to. Very happy with the defensive performance. 

The attacking players will eventually click, there's too much quality for that not to happen. It will happen quicker if they are playing in the same formation/position for a couple of games. The quality is there, I have no doubt about Pulisic and Ziyech.  Remember they're both coming back from injuries, the defensive organisation just needs to keep on being solid like today.

 

#EndSARS

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8 hours ago, Vesper said:

if Zouma is in it, that's is a fucked back 4

he almost fucked us 3 or 4 times again, like he did last game

I would rather see Reece at CB than him

he is the worst passing, ball playing CB who starts for us in ages

he has 2017–18 Burnley level written all over him (the year they finished 7th)

he is only good for a hit n hope low block goon side

I'm with you after last night i never want to see Zouma in our defence again, he was woeful.

Then there's Glen Hoddle saying on commentary how well the defence played, failed to mention Zouma was a complete fuck up.

The 2 worse central defenders are in the squad WTF is going on, what is the situation with Rudiger and Tomori?

Because i'd have either of them alongside Thiago.

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Felt the only positive from yesterday's game was the clean sheet. 

In game management by Lampard was poor, with 5 subs available we could actually changed the strategy around the 70 mins mark and got in someone like Giroud for a physical presence & ariel threat. With loads of game coming up, we need to rest players ... Werner, Havertz, Mount, Kante have literally started in all games ... We dont a break down happening. 

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6 hours ago, communicate said:

I didn't watch the game, is it similar to palace 1st half? 

No. Long story short, we were defensively solid all game but horrendous offensively, as proven by that xG graphic.

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tbf not only were we offensively poor, Sevilla defended better than any side we have faced all year. We still managed to make a couple of decent openings and should have scored one of the Werner chances and the zouma header. If we become more clinical and keep the defensive solidity from today we should be fine.

I dont like how we always need to focus on the negative. Until now I would not have considered us capable to shut completely down an excellent side like Sevilla without completely parking the bus, playing just one DM. Everyone really put in a shift defensively, esp RJ marshalled Ocampos very well, whilst Chilwell covered upmost of Zouma's fuck ups. Maybe it is just me but I can see improvement even if it is just baby steps.

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2 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

tbf not only were we offensively poor, Sevilla defended better than any side we have faced all year. We still managed to make a couple of decent openings and should have scored one of the Werner chances and the zouma header. If we become more clinical and keep the defensive solidity from today we should be fine.

I dont like how we always need to focus on the negative. Until now I would not have considered us capable to shut completely down an excellent side like Sevilla without completely parking the bus, playing just one DM. Everyone really put in a shift defensively, esp RJ marshalled Ocampos very well, whilst Chilwell covered upmost of Zouma's fuck ups. Maybe it is just me but I can see improvement even if it is just baby steps.

Not discrediting the clean sheet and defensive work last night but worth noting that Sevilla are hardly a prolific side. This pre-game tweet summed up both teams nicely...

 

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Apart from the last fifteen minutes we did triy to move the ball towards their half, it was n't parking the bus.
Timo lost his irons yesterday and he made a Morata out of himself in the last minute of the first half.
Also with 2-3 clean headers their keeper was lucky because the ball went straight at him.
I don't know how Sevilla compares to Bayern Munich but they are certinly the betters of Real-Barca-Atletico these days.
I believe now that things can only get better - not like last year when the initial good performances in the league was obvious they could n't last.

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