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closed Chelsea 3-3 Southampton

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Man of the Match   19 members have voted

  1. 1. Who is your Man of the Match?

    • Kepa
      2
    • Azpilicueta
      0
    • Christensen
      0
    • Zouma
      0
    • Chilwell
      1
    • Kante
      0
    • Jorginho
      0
    • Mount
      0
    • Havertz
      0
    • Pulisic
      0
    • Werner
      16
    • Ziyech (sub)
      0
    • James (sub)
      0
    • Abraham (sub)
      0

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44 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

We should still be comfortably beating Saints at home, bearing no more injuries. 

 

mendy out could already cost us the points. If we concede one clean shot at kepa without having scored first we will most likely go beind and from there it will be an uphill battle . Remeber one in two shots at Kepa is a goal. there are no guarantees with such a keeper.

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Just now, Magic Lamps said:

mendy out could already cost us the points. If we concede one clean shot at kepa without having scored first we will most likely go beind and from there it will be an uphill battle . Remeber one in two shots at Kepa is a goal. there are no guarantees with such a keeper.

Sorry, not having any of that. If we drop points, it isn't solely down to Kepa.

Pulisic and Ziyech should be ready. We've injected so much money into our attack that we should be outscoring the majority of our opposition. We've also polished our back line so if we can't beat Saints, at HOME, this will be more down to Lampard than Kepa. 

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1 minute ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Sorry, not having any of that. If we drop points, it isn't solely down to Kepa.

Pulisic and Ziyech should be ready. We've injected so much money into our attack that we should be outscoring the majority of our opposition. We've also polished our back line so if we can't beat Saints, at HOME, this will be more down to Lampard than Kepa. 

it is a matter of timing. if we score first, we should be fine but if we concede from two shots in the first 10mins or so, they will just park the bus and not even our attack can turn this around. It is always a gamble with Kepa, always. Thining this is fine or the defence is at fault has got us into this situation. when the defence does nto trust the keeper, it is nervous and can not even allow shots from distance thus leaving space in behind and inviting pressure.

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We should win comfortably even with main players injured. Having none of this nonsense of one player out leading to us dropping points against Soton

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14 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

it is a matter of timing. if we score first, we should be fine but if we concede from two shots in the first 10mins or so, they will just park the bus and not even our attack can turn this around. It is always a gamble with Kepa, always. Thining this is fine or the defence is at fault has got us into this situation. when the defence does nto trust the keeper, it is nervous and can not even allow shots from distance thus leaving space in behind and inviting pressure.

Again, we have bulked our attack and polished our backline.

We should not be in those situations anymore. If we enter the game not taking the initiative and looking out of pace against Saints at home, this isn't something you can blame on Kepa.

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5 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

After not being allowed to attend, and shelling out over £1100 for Sky, BT and Amazon this one and several others are now pay per view at £14.95 a match. 

They can get fucked. Internet stream for this one

Ohhh thought was for the whole lot. Didnt realise each!! Thats mad. Cup tickets are only 20 quid..or were.

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Silva is 36, we need to be careful with him. 

He has a game in Peru that ends just 60 hours before this game. 

S. America flights are like 12 hours plus completely different time zone and he probably wont go directly from Lima but first go back to Brazil.

Add jet leg and I would not play him in this game. Save him for Sevilla.

Players are usually retired from NT at that age but he wants to play World Cup in 2022.

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Kepa, Chilwell, Chris, Zouma, Azpi, Kante, Jorginho, Havertz, Pulisic, Ziyech, Werner.

Probably no Mendy and Silva for this one but we should have more than enough. Also if Hakim is still not ready to start CHO on RW.

Every top side has around 25 players squad so we are no different from the others. 

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Cant find the correct forum for this so here goes...

Sky Sports and BT Sport tell locked-out football fans they will screen five extra matches in each round of fixtures on pay-per-view - but charge a whopping £14.95 for EACH game

By MIKE KEEGAN and MATT HUGHES and SAMI MOKBEL and ADAM SHERGOLD FOR MAILONLINE 

PUBLISHED: 12:00 BST, 9 October 2020 | UPDATED: 22:40 BST, 9 October 2020

 

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The Premier League were facing a backlash on Friday after launching a controversial pay-per-view service for matches, news exclusively revealed by Sportsmail.

In a strategy that has infuriated the football community, the Premier League — in conjunction with Sky Sports and BT Sport — have announced a new service in time for next weekend's set of fixtures to show an additional layer of matches that are not included in the designated televised schedule.

The games will be available at an additional cost — £14.95 — to their original subscription fees. The decision was ratified during a Premier League shareholders' meeting on Friday. 

Sky Sports and BT Sport are poised to announce a pay-per-view service for Premier League matches that are not part of their usual coverage schedules
 
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Sky Sports and BT Sport are poised to announce a pay-per-view service for Premier League matches that are not part of their usual coverage schedules 

A number of Premier League games were shown free-to-air in lockdown but the league has grown agitated at giving away its product for free in the UK
 
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A number of Premier League games were shown free-to-air in lockdown but the league has grown agitated at giving away its product for free in the UK

Fans who remain locked out of grounds amid the Covid-19 pandemic are likely to be angry they now have to pay more to watch their team on TV
 
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Fans who remain locked out of grounds amid the Covid-19 pandemic are likely to be angry they now have to pay more to watch their team on TV

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Sportsmail understands the idea for the new service came from the Premier League, and that the broadcasting partners are merely facilitating the move.

The profits from the project will go directly to the clubs, rather than the TV networks, to help ease the financial concerns caused by playing matches behind closed doors.

There was a degree of discomfort about the plans from their broadcasting partners on Friday as they sought to distance themselves from the idea.  

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Sky Sports managing director Rob Webster said: 'The Premier League has come to this decision with its clubs to provide a service for supporters who are no longer able attend and to generate matchday revenue. 

'We are happy to support them with this interim solution — and we share their desire to get fans back into grounds as soon as it is safe.' 

Premier League clubs feel they reached the 'point of no return' when the Government started to suggest they bailed out the EFL clubs. That prompted them to say 'We will look after ourselves'. 

A source said: 'The resentment is felt purely towards the Government. We are losing £100m a month and we can't allow it to go on. 

'We have reached a point of no return. We have to find ways of recouping money. These are not free-to-air games. They are on a subscription service anyway.'  

Some clubs looked at an option of streaming games on their own websites but couldn't get it sorted in time. 

Manchester United, who initially voiced their objection to the move, wanted to find a way of providing the games for free to season ticket holders. 

Leicester City voted against the move and none of the clubs are blind to the negative PR. 'The losses we are suffering over-ride any fear of the kind of pushback we will get from the public,' a source at a Premier League club said. 

Who is hit hardest? 

Saturday 3pm games to be shown on pay-per-view during October by club

3 - Fulham, West Bromwich Albion

2 - Sheffield United, Aston Villa, Southampton, Burnley, Chelsea, Brighton and Hove Albion, Crystal Palace

1 - Leicester City, Newcastle United, Manchester United, Arsenal, Leeds United, Liverpool, Tottenham, Wolves

0 - Manchester City, West Ham, Everton

 

Clubs are also afraid of dragging down the value of future TV deals by essentially allowing TV partners to continue showing more and more games for the same money. 

There was criticism on Friday over the price, as the EFL's iFollow service for showing games that are not broadcast elsewhere is £10 per match.   

It is understood that the Premier League feel the extra cost is justified given that their PPV broadcasts through television should be of better quality than the internet streams offered by iFollow. 

The Premier League confirmed that games not already selected for coverage on Sky or BT's usual sports channels until the end of October will be available on pay-per-view.

The first fixtures shown on the service will be the three original 3pm kick-offs scheduled for Saturday, October 17 — Newcastle United v Manchester United, Leicester City v Aston Villa and West Brom v Burnley. 

Sky Sports pundits Jamie Carragher (left), Gary Neville (centre) and presenter Kelly Cates at a Premier League match earlier this year
 
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Sky Sports pundits Jamie Carragher (left), Gary Neville (centre) and presenter Kelly Cates at a Premier League match earlier this year

Since football returned in June, all matches have been televised through Sky, BT, BBC or Amazon as part of each broadcasters' general service. But the Premier League have grown agitated at essentially giving away their product.

The move sparked outrage on Friday, led by former Manchester United and England defender and current Sky Sports pundit Gary Neville. 

'This is a really bad move by the Premier League to charge £14.95 for single matches that have been shown free for six months,' he wrote on Twitter.

There was also fury from supporters — season ticket holders in particular, given the prospect of having to pay twice to watch a match.

There are plans to reimburse season ticket holders who want their money back following the announcement.

But some fans have paid non-refundable deposits for season tickets for the current campaign, for example Tottenham whose supporters parted with £200.   

Sky and BT will continue with the staggered kick-off times that have now become commonplace even with Box Office fixtures.

The first game will be Chelsea vs Southampton on BT Sport Box Office at 3pm on Saturday October 17, with Newcastle United vs Manchester United now 8pm that evening on Sky Sports Box Office.

Sky's Neville leads fan criticism

Sky Sports pundit Gary Neville has led criticism of the Premier League's decision to charge fans £14.95 per match to watch extra games.

And fans have reacted furiously at the prospect of being made to pay even more money on top of existing subscriptions to watch their team in action.

Even though Sky will be showing many of these extra games on their Box Office channels, pundit and commentator Neville voiced his criticism on Twitter.

Sky Sports pundit has joined angry fans in criticising the Premier League decision to charge fans £14.95 per match for additional televised games from next weekend
 
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Sky Sports pundit has joined angry fans in criticising the Premier League decision to charge fans £14.95 per match for additional televised games from next weekend

Neville posted the tweet despite many of the games being set for Sky's Box Office channel
 

Neville posted the tweet despite many of the games being set for Sky's Box Office channel

He wrote: 'This is a really bad move by the @premierleague to charge £14.95 for single matches that have been shown free for 6 months!'

Neville then retweeted a post that pointed out the 20 Premier League clubs spent £1.2billion on transfer during the recently-closed summer window.

fans described the move as 'genuinely disgraceful', 'disgusting' and 'another nail in the coffin' for the game.

Others calculated the cost of their various TV sport subscriptions at well in excess of £1,000 and that even before these extra games.

Others said they would be cancelling their Sky and BT subscriptions in protest even though the broadcasters don't stand to make any money.

Angry fans rushed onto Twitter to voice their disgust at having to pay more to watch their team
 

Angry fans rushed onto Twitter to voice their disgust at having to pay more to watch their team

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Sheffield United vs Fulham will be on BT Box Office at midday on Sunday October 18 with Leicester City vs Aston Villa on Sky Box Office at 7.15pm. 

West Bromwich Albion vs Burnley will be on Sky at 5.30pm on Monday October 19.  

Fans of Fulham and West Bromwich Albion will be hit hardest in the pocket with three October games set to be on the Box Office platform. They would have to pay £44.85 to watch all three games.   

A statement released by the Premier League said: 'The Premier League today confirmed all fixtures until the end of October will continue to be made available for fans to watch live in the United Kingdom. 

'Under these new arrangements, the current live match selections will remain in place and will be broadcast as normal.

'In addition, the five matches per round not already selected will be made available to supporters on a pay-per-view basis, accessed via BT Sport Box Office and Sky Sports Box Office platforms.

'Clubs today agreed this interim solution to enable all fans to continue to watch their teams live.

'The Premier League has worked closely with Sky Sports and BT Sport to provide this arrangement and is grateful for their support.

'The agreement will be regularly reviewed in consultation with clubs and in line with any decisions made by Government regarding the return of spectators to stadiums.

It's just another cost for fans  

At present, a new customer needs to pay £46 a month to subscribe to Sky with sports channels included and the BT Sport channels cost an extra £13 a month on this platform. This second price is down from the usual £25.

Alternatively, the Sky Sports channels can be streamed online with a £34-a-month Now TV pass. Day passes are also available for £9.99.

BT Sport is available through various providers including BT TV, Sky and Virgin Media.

A current offer costs £44.99 a month for the sport channels plus BT's Fibre 2 broadband.

Any pay-per-view service would add further costs if viewers wished to watch extra games at £14.99 each.

At the moment, Sky Sports has the rights to screen 146 live Premier League matches, while BT will be showing 61 live games.

Amazon Prime will show 20 live games over two matchdays in December.

 

'Football is not the same without supporters at matches. The Premier League and our clubs remain committed to the safe return of fans as soon as possible. An updated broadcast list of matches will be announced later today.'

A BT Sport statement read: 'BT have agreed to support the Premier League and Clubs make Premier League games that wouldn't normally be televised available to fans via BT Sport Box Office in October.'

'With supporters still unable to return to stadiums, we want to help fans watch the games they would usually attend and clubs generate critical revenue.'   

The Football Supporters' Association welcomed the decision to put all matches on TV while fans were not allowed into grounds but urged a rethink on the £14.95 pricing.

A statement said: 'Today's announcement shows that fan power works. At the start of this season the Premier League and its broadcasters had planned to leave match-going fans entirely locked out of their side's matches; now thanks to the sustained pressure of our #LetUsWatch campaign all games will be available for fans.

'Many Premier League clubs have already taken money from fans for matches they can't attend, so we urge them to get refunds out to those supporters as soon as possible, particularly season ticket holders.

'We've already heard from many supporters and FSA members who are concerned about the £15 per game being charged and we'd urge BT Sport and Sky Sports to reconsider their pricing for these games.' 

 

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19 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

After not being allowed to attend, and shelling out over £1100 for Sky, BT and Amazon this one and several others are now pay per view at £14.95 a match. 

They can get fucked. Internet stream for this one

After reading the earlier post by me, the EPL and Sky and BT can go fuck themselves, just checking out IPTV streaming.

Plus we've got our regs Vesper Unionjack and other who supply good links.

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I dont see how charging that much will help clubs situation. A fiver maybe people be more willing to pay but charging that much..nope people go elsewhere so still lose money

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1 hour ago, bigbluewillie said:

After reading the earlier post by me, the EPL and Sky and BT can go fuck themselves, just checking out IPTV streaming.

Plus we've got our regs Vesper Unionjack and other who supply good links.

Exactly. At least we have our Swedish friend Vesper to rely on for links 

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19 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Silva is 36, we need to be careful with him. 

He has a game in Peru that ends just 60 hours before this game. 

S. America flights are like 12 hours plus completely different time zone and he probably wont go directly from Lima but first go back to Brazil.

Add jet leg and I would not play him in this game. Save him for Sevilla.

Players are usually retired from NT at that age but he wants to play World Cup in 2022.

no way,,with the kepa as GK,,i didn't want any pain again to see our backline got bullied from Ings-Jenepo speed. Silva-Zouma is a must,,we need this momentum in PL....

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2 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Exactly. At least we have our Swedish friend Vesper to rely on for links 

Exactly! whilst still on that subject have they even considered the viewing public? of course not I for one and there's many who like me who cannot work and have very little income if any and are struggling, personally I have not been able to work since February because of the Pandemic.

Do they care about us! do they fuck!, as I said on another thread to them we are just a commodity:middlefinger:

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