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Fulham Broadway

Mikel John Obi

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You're killing me, Choulo. Mikel and Ramires. Flawed, such flawed individuals. Just saying their names sounds like I'm mentioning a bad TV sitcom.

Question marks over whether Matic and Fabregas are good enough to start for Chelsea? Question marks over whether Mikel and Ramires are good enough to be back-ups? Sigh. I know what my answer is. Midfield is dead.

Not really the points you originally made and I tried to refute, but anyway...

Yes, Ramires(technical ability) and Mikel(dynamism) are deeply flawed and so are Matic(consistency) and Fabregas(physical abilities).

For me, Fabregas should not be starting for any top team, while Matic is certainly good enough to start and Mikel and Ramires good enough to be backups, though you can definitely have better options than all three of them. I just don't think that that is a pressing priority considering all the other more critical deficiencies we have in team at the moment (including replacing Fabregas himself).

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You're killing me, Choulo. Mikel and Ramires. Flawed, such flawed individuals. Just saying their names sounds like I'm mentioning a bad TV sitcom.

Question marks over whether Matic and Fabregas are good enough to start for Chelsea? Question marks over whether Mikel and Ramires are good enough to be back-ups? Sigh. I know what my answer is. Midfield is dead.

Only one of these players played at the highest level for long stretches of time (for us and previous club) and yet he gets put in the same bucket as others who have never showed and consistency at same high level in their entire careers. * not my opinion only: go back to winning season and check ratings/stats pundits.

I know which players will turn good again once we get the teamwork is back... the ones who were good once.

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Not really the points you originally made and I tried to refute, but anyway...

Yes, Ramires(technical ability) and Mikel(dynamism) are deeply flawed and so are Matic(consistency) and Fabregas(physical abilities).

For me, Fabregas should not be starting for any top team, while Matic is certainly good enough to start and Mikel and Ramires good enough to be backups, though you can definitely have better options than all three of them. I just don't think that that is a pressing priority considering all the other more critical deficiencies we have in team at the moment (including replacing Fabregas himself).

You mentioned Mourinho not willing to rotate but I thought he rotated (a lot) more in his Inter and Real Madrid days. But that's not even important, my post wasn't about rotation. My post was about the lack of quality of Mikel (and Ramires) and what they offer to the team. Maybe I should've made that more clear. I know how you feel about Mikel so any discussion about him would be useless.

That last part of my post was an extension of sorts. You made think of Chelsea's midfield. I can be all over the place. It's your own fault for quoting me.

You think you could convince Juve to switch midfields with Chelsea? They've been weakened after the summer but I'd still prefer that bunch.

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Only one of these players played at the highest level for long stretches of time (for us and previous club) and yet he gets put in the same bucket as others who have never showed and consistency at same high level in their entire careers. * not my opinion only: go back to winning season and check ratings/stats pundits.

I know which players will turn good again once we get the teamwork is back... the ones who were good once.

Fair enough on Matic. I'm not his biggest fan at the moment so I'm probably being harsh.

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Every time a new manager comes in he seems to get a new lease of life it's so frustrating that this cycle will never end. Regardless of him being a long time servant his simply not good enough for what we aim to achieve at the club. That's why Matic has arguably dropped in form because there was no real competition for him  

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1 minute ago, DYC. said:

I called you average. I questioned your role in the team. Well, I said you have to need to go. You must've read my posts.

Unrecognisable for me. He rocked it today.

Fair play to you for having the balls to say that. I'll join you.

Never disliked Mikel but not his biggest fan, yet he put in an outstanding performance today. Please keep it up.

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1 minute ago, Ossie the King said:

Fair play to you for having the balls to say that. I'll join you.

Never disliked Mikel but not his biggest fan, yet he put in an outstanding performance today. Please keep it up.

I have nothing against Mikel. Not the slightest bit. But I don't like his football at all. Think he's regressed from what he used to be years back. He does too little for me.

But today he was fantastic. Big move from Hiddink too. But it worked out brilliantly.

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Mikel: Chelsea 1st signing in January 2016 transfer window had a wonderful debut today against Crystal Palace in a 3-0 away win, we wish our new signing a brilliant season in Chelsea. Old boy Matic would have to raise his game to get back into the team.

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2 minutes ago, Stats said:

I hope this performance makes his critics realise how useful of a squad player he is. He does his job. He is not going to play consistently world class but for a player who knows he is a back up role and comes in and performs like that, we should appreciate that. He proves that he can do a role in Matic absence and hopefully that performance assures people he will be fine in place of Matic for PSG. Great game and great valuable player. Why people think we should ship him. I never know. Anyway, today he showed the quality he has. Simply brilliant.

I daresay if he played like that more often then he wouldn't have critics.

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2 minutes ago, Stats said:

I hope this performance makes his critics realise how useful of a squad player he is. He does his job. He is not going to play consistently world class but for a player who knows he is a back up role and comes in and performs like that, we should appreciate that. He proves that he can do a role in Matic absence and hopefully that performance assures people he will be fine in place of Matic for PSG. Great game and great valuable player. Why people think we should ship him. I never know. Anyway, today he showed the quality he has. Simply brilliant.

Notice he got a couple games in a row under his belt (unlike under Mourinho where he'd play here and there) and he puts in a worldie? 

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