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Tomo

Chelsea Transfer Pub

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6 hours ago, Muzchap said:

Sky News saying Giroud is done £8.5 million ?

I saw it pop up in yellow box thing 

I think it will end up being 6m euro (£5.1m)

which is what I have said all along for months we should get for him, plus £5m for Pedro (now it looks like, foolishly, we are just going to hold onto Pedro and let him walk on a free in summer)

I see many on here still think there will be some significant business done this window

I do not see it happening

certainly no CB is coming in (so we are burning the buyback for Ake (who is left-footed and who has played at LB before) AND we are saving Bournemouth's arse from relegation perhaps, which pisses me off!)

No LB coming in as there is zero linkage to Telles, who is the only really high quality one doable (and he is a great price) as there is zero chance we dump out 60m euros on Grimaldo now (at east I hope not as I am not sold on him at all, especially at 60m euros), let alone 100m on Gaya

No DMF (which is a vitally needed position few talk about) unless we snap up Boubakary Soumaré , but I think he goes elsewhere (even the giants like RM, Manure, Barca, Bayern, Juve are now in on the frenzy as Lille says he is deffo being sold)

No AMF as I see zero links to anyone as of late at all, RM said basically give us around $43m and Isco is yours, and we did nothing, so I do not see Ziyech or any other happening at all, and again, no links at all of any sort of credibility to any AMF

No winger unless there is some secret plan to buy Zaha (and that would mean Lampard has been basically completely bullshitting anyway over the whole thing, which I so hope is NOT the case) I think all the other links were rubbish (Leon Bailey, Samu Chukwueze, etc) I see nothing in terms of any links with Zaniolo, who is also a AMF and is a left footer since a year ago. 

Finally, I see no Dembele buy at CF (Lampard went out of his way to throw water on the very notion, plus Lyon is quite adamant he is not moving now, and it would take a huge overpay to change their minds), and all the others of any proven big 5 league quality are not moving in January that I can see.

Habib Diallo, ffs, of Metz, even turned us down! LOLOLOLOLOL He doesn't want to come here and wants to stay at Metz at least until the end of the season (no great loss at all IMHO)

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very worrisome stat

https://www.football.london/premier-league/boubakary-soumare-january-transfer-rumours-17549546

Of the 44 central midfielders to have amassed over 1,000 minutes in Ligue 1 this season, Soumare placed 43rd for defensive duels per 90, which indicates that he is not particularly inclined to engage in taking on opposing players for the ball, compared to his contempories.

 

not acceptable :rant:

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6 hours ago, LAM09 said:
10 hours ago, Jason said:
Pedro is suddenly in the plans. lol Great management from Lampard...

Probably says more about our transfer business during this window. I can't see us signing anyone other than a CF now.

Pretty sure if Pulisic hadn't gotten his injury, Pedro might have been allowed to leave considering his contract expires in the summer and we don't look like extending it. But because of the injury, Pedro is suddenly back from exile. Pedro could have been used to give Pulisic some breather between October and December but instead, the latter was flogged to death for 12 consecutive games and is now injured because of it. 

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2 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Can't believe @manpe never mentioned the striker we should have signed :rant: :D

ERIK SORGA young Estonian striker with most impressive stats I have ever seen for such a young age :worship: just moved to US second division for 500k :noexpression::noexpression:

I'll keep my eyes on him. 

 

Might turn good but I'd be doubtful. Estonian league is not the greatest and it really doesn't take much to shine. The thing with playing in the mud leagues is that you need to have an impeccable work ethic and drive to keep working on yourself  and -to me- signing for MLS DC United feeder club doesn't show much ambition. He supposedly had offers from Eredivisie/Ekstraklasa/Russian Premier League/Scandinavian leagues, which in theory could have been a better stepping stone to be noted by the European scouts.

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1 hour ago, Jason said:

Pretty sure if Pulisic hadn't gotten his injury, Pedro might have been allowed to leave considering his contract expires in the summer and we don't look like extending it. But because of the injury, Pedro is suddenly back from exile. Pedro could have been used to give Pulisic some breather between October and December but instead, the latter was flogged to death for 12 consecutive games and is now injured because of it. 

Since when is 12 games in a row flogging a player to death?

I dont see Sheff Utd players complaining and they have a tiny squad...

The guy is clearly injury prone. Talented without a doubt, but injury prone...

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Just now, Muzchap said:

Since when is 12 games in a row flogging a player to death?

I dont see Sheff Utd players complaining and they have a tiny squad...

The guy is clearly injury prone. Talented without a doubt, but injury prone...

How exactly is he injury prone? Pulisic is still new to the league, still adjusting to the higher intensity games etc but was asked to play 12 straight games. The fact that he mentioned about tiredness to Lampard and then suffered muscle injury only goes to reflect that. He clearly is still not conditioned to the demands of playing in this league yet.

How can you compare to Sheffield United? They have only played one game per week while we have been playing a game every 3-4 days for pretty much the entire season. Furthermore, so many players at the other clubs have gone down to injuries over the past month or so because of the sheer number of games they have to play.

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11 minutes ago, Jason said:

How exactly is he injury prone? Pulisic is still new to the league, still adjusting to the higher intensity games etc but was asked to play 12 straight games. The fact that he mentioned about tiredness to Lampard and then suffered muscle injury only goes to reflect that. He clearly is still not conditioned to the demands of playing in this league yet.

How can you compare to Sheffield United? They have only played one game per week while we have been playing a game every 3-4 days for pretty much the entire season. Furthermore, so many players at the other clubs have gone down to injuries over the past month or so because of the sheer number of games they have to play.

too many games all at once!!

it is madness

it is really hurting the quality of football and the teams themselves, not to mention (obviously) the players

I HATE Liverpool, but it is ridiculous to force them to chose between the FWCC and the league cup

IF they had won the CS versus Shitty, they would have had a chance to be the first team in football to win 7 trophies not just linearly, but in the same season, ever, in major world football history

they will perhaps have the chance again next year (all they have to do (not easy) is to win the CL again and they have the same shot at the Septuple)

next year is their last year to have a truly (provided they win the CL and the EPL and the FA Cup, by far the 3 hardest things to do) decent shot, as the FWCC changes to a MUCH harder 24 team format in 2021 (we will be in it due to our EL win last season)

If an EPL teams pulls off a 2021 and beyond Septuple, that would be the greatest seasonal achievement in the history of team sports (even a 'regular' one now would perhaps be)

 

Finally, as it stands, we have all these fucking international breaks eating up weeks upon weeks, weeks that could be used to even out the schedule (and also avoid players getting hurt whilst playing for shit national teams on shit pitches in shit, often meaningless-in-reality games)

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2 hours ago, SinineUltra said:

Might turn good but I'd be doubtful. Estonian league is not the greatest and it really doesn't take much to shine. The thing with playing in the mud leagues is that you need to have an impeccable work ethic and drive to keep working on yourself  and -to me- signing for MLS DC United feeder club doesn't show much ambition. He supposedly had offers from Eredivisie/Ekstraklasa/Russian Premier League/Scandinavian leagues, which in theory could have been a better stepping stone to be noted by the European scouts.

@NikkiCFC post was sarcastic I think :D Anyway, one rule with us Estonians - never sign us, we suck.

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1 hour ago, manpe said:

@NikkiCFC post was sarcastic I think :D Anyway, one rule with us Estonians - never sign us, we suck.

Honestly didn't even occur  to me. Well you win some you lose some. :D 

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3 hours ago, Jason said:

How exactly is he injury prone? Pulisic is still new to the league, still adjusting to the higher intensity games etc but was asked to play 12 straight games. The fact that he mentioned about tiredness to Lampard and then suffered muscle injury only goes to reflect that. He clearly is still not conditioned to the demands of playing in this league yet.

How can you compare to Sheffield United? They have only played one game per week while we have been playing a game every 3-4 days for pretty much the entire season. Furthermore, so many players at the other clubs have gone down to injuries over the past month or so because of the sheer number of games they have to play.

Because he's injured after 12 games 🤔

Chelsea version of Darren Anderton 🤣

Tiredness - honestly my heart bleeds for him.

Yeah they are playing the same games less European football - and nobody else is complaining, e.g. Liverpool... (played more games than us).

Proper little snowflakes we have in our team 👍

Little wonder we have no backbone and are easily bullied when our players are 'tired'... Never heard Drogs, Ballack, Frank or John say they were tired... I guess that's the difference between 'winners' and 'non-winners'... 👍

It's cool though- this is the modern world and I guess I just have to adapt my expectations accordingly... 

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12 minutes ago, Muzchap said:

Because he's injured after 12 games 🤔

Chelsea version of Darren Anderton 🤣

Tiredness - honestly my heart bleeds for him.

Yeah they are playing the same games less European football - and nobody else is complaining, e.g. Liverpool... (played more games than us).

Proper little snowflakes we have in our team 👍

Little wonder we have no backbone and are easily bullied when our players are 'tired'... Never heard Drogs, Ballack, Frank or John say they were tired... I guess that's the difference between 'winners' and 'non-winners'... 👍

It's cool though- this is the modern world and I guess I just have to adapt my expectations accordingly... 

It's funny how quick you called him 'injury prone' after one injury but have it your way.

Nobody else is complaining? A number of managers have complained about the fixture congestion and yes, even Klopp - https://www.thisisanfield.com/2020/01/jurgen-klopp-criticises-fixture-schedule-after-injuries-plague-premier-league/.

And for the record, Liverpool have their injury problems over the last month or so - Matip, Fabinho, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Keita etc. 

More teams' injuries over the festive period - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/50986483.

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1 hour ago, manpe said:

@NikkiCFC post was sarcastic I think :D Anyway, one rule with us Estonians - never sign us, we suck.

Only partly :D he does have impressive stats. Have you heard of him? 

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4 hours ago, SinineUltra said:

Might turn good but I'd be doubtful. Estonian league is not the greatest and it really doesn't take much to shine. The thing with playing in the mud leagues is that you need to have an impeccable work ethic and drive to keep working on yourself  and -to me- signing for MLS DC United feeder club doesn't show much ambition. He supposedly had offers from Eredivisie/Ekstraklasa/Russian Premier League/Scandinavian leagues, which in theory could have been a better stepping stone to be noted by the European scouts.

Green card is priority. 

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3 hours ago, Vesper said:

too many games all at once!!

it is madness

it is really hurting the quality of football and the teams themselves, not to mention (obviously) the players

I HATE Liverpool, but it is ridiculous to force them to chose between the FWCC and the league cup

Feel like they should just get rid of the League Cup. Doesn't have much glamour and no team seem to even care much about it, not even the smaller teams. 

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6 minutes ago, Jason said:

It's funny how quick you called him 'injury prone' after one injury but have it your way.

Nobody else is complaining? A number of managers have complained about the fixture congestion and yes, even Klopp - https://www.thisisanfield.com/2020/01/jurgen-klopp-criticises-fixture-schedule-after-injuries-plague-premier-league/.

And for the record, Liverpool have their injury problems over the last month or so - Matip, Fabinho, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Keita etc. 

More teams' injuries over the festive period - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/50986483.

Man don't take everything I say so seriously 🤣🤣🤣

 

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Pulisic has a history at Dortmund and with the US team of small injuries lingering, or becoming worse. I think he has a lot more potential, but he is not proven to be a player that comes back from injury fast so far.

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9 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

Pulisic has a history at Dortmund and with the US team of small injuries lingering, or becoming worse. I think he has a lot more potential, but he is not proven to be a player that comes back from injury fast so far.

All the injuries you mentioned are minor ones. The most number of games he missed at Dortmund was 3. 

And furthermore, players at Dortmund tend to get injured anyway. There's always someone injured every week. Our injury record overall is better than Dortmund's. 

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It was more than three games. When people were talking about him being benched for Sancho it wasn't because he was healthy and ready to go, he was having setbacks with getting 100% healthy.

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