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Malcom

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8 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

I get it now, I've been on the wine, 3 bottles.:beer:

Take it and run, still.

Bottle of vodka here.

Just glad to see links Willian away from us, even if not true, it still brings a smile to my face.

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5 minutes ago, manpe said:

Bottle of vodka here.

Just glad to see links Willian away from us, even if not true, it still brings a smile to my face.

Fuck me everyone is on the piss, must be celebrating this Willian news:beer:

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19 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

True but my point is we need depth. Hazard, CHO, Pedro and Malcom is good for wings but people just want Willian out and no replacement in,  which considering Hazard and CHO will 75% likely be gone next season... and id we continue with Eden as a 9 still leaves us short.

Also we might have to be patient with Malcom. Look at the idiots turning on Jorginho already... 6 months in...

Can't understand why people are turning on Jorginho, those are just idiots. He is a complete midfielder; solid defensively, tremendous in build up, key to our ability to control possession. That is basically all you could ask for from the deepest player in your midfield. Our issue in midfield is creativity in the final third and goals. Those are much more the responsibility of the midfielders who are in much better position to create and score goals. 

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When we get a forward who decides to move and work you will see the difference with Jorginho, the same with a RW in place of Willian.

Runs in behind are the key to breaking down these teams who sit deep. We don't have full backs or wingers doing it, with that example it's easy to read what we do.

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I am going to work off nightmare scenario

Eden leaves for a pure cash deal

CHO leaves for a pure cash deal

so there we sit

 

now IF we also sold Willian for Malcom plus cash

 

AND bought Lozano and a cut-rate deal on (another blast from the past) Leon Bailey (and had Sarri rehab back to 2017-18 form)

This is what we would be looking at for wingers

 

LW Pulisic (right footed)  turns 21 in September         best USA player, so huge marketing inflow

LW Lozano (right footed)  turns 24 in July      best Mexican player, so huge marketing inflow

RW Malcom (left footed) turns 22 in February

RW Bailey (left footed) turns 22 in August        best Jamaican player, but that is small beer in terms of marketing

average age of those four is 22

Pedro LW/RW cover (ambipedal) turns 32 in July, so next year or the year after is his last hurrah, and is the best over 30yo Spanish winger atm (only plus 30 Spanish players overall worth more are Pique and Ramos, as David Silva turns 34 next year)

in reality, every one of those 5 can play either wing, so positions are fluid

I would rate those wingers as a group at least 10, 20 goals to the good over the present group we have now (yes Eden included)

odds are very high at least one goes top 10 superstar level

you also could swap Bailey out for Suso (25yo the first half of the season) and the best Spanish RW on the planet

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With Pulisic coming in the summer I would much rather we just offload Willian and let them send Malcom elsewhere. He's no better than Willian. We wouldn't need Pulisic, Pedro, and Malcom.

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1 minute ago, Pizy said:

With Pulisic coming in the summer I would much rather we just offload Willian and let them send Malcom elsewhere. He's no better than Willian. We wouldn't need Pulisic, Pedro, and Malcom.

That may not be an option to get the deal done,  Malcom has potential and we'd probably buy another winger anyway.

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18 minutes ago, lucio said:

give willian + cash if needed

I would give Willian plus £20m plus UJ's left jacob for Nicolas Pepe

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45 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Malcom and Pedro will be fine, plus CHO if he stays.

Like Morata for Higuain and Malcom for Willian, they cannot be any worse, i'm telling you.

And Real completes the cycle by signing Alonso...

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1 minute ago, eemanyooel said:

And Real completes the cycle by signing Alonso...

Dreams do come true

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I've literally not watched a single minute of this Malcolm guy but I wonder what if he'd have gone to Roma in the first place? Well I bet you there would be hundreds of articles linking several English clubs to him, including us, for something like 60-70M. 

I say get him done at least he's young enough still, if he's dross we sell him and we're on profit no matter what. 

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Seen him a lot at Bordeaux. Player with potential. Still inconsistent but so is Willian tbh. He's definitely capable of producing stats though. The problem with this transfer is that it's done in the middle of the season. The coach and club might think that it would potentially derail our top 4 chances because unlike them we've be giving up one of our starters. Needless to say I'm all for all in for this one. If anything it would force Sarri to play Hudson-Odoi.

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I think Malcom is better than William. He should never go to Barcelona though. He is not better than their other attacking players, his best position is in the RW and its pretty much the same position as Messi. He will always play out of position there.

 

 

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Barca/Real Logic

They buy a player

he FAILS

they sell for much higher than they paid

 

Chelsea reality

We buy a player, they FAIL (or even better, just cannot break into starting lineup)

we sell at massive loss, even if the player goes on loan and plays to level we thought he would when we bought him

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10 hours ago, kc_blue said:

Dreams do come true

You will have to tell me how cause none of my buggas do mate! 4521fe22dfeeb372e4fb811a62232d95.gif

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So there has been a LOT of hype over Malcom over the last what 2 years? Similar with Bailey.

Whats our thoughts on Malcom now as a player??

13 hours ago, Special Juan said:

When we get a forward who decides to move and work you will see the difference with Jorginho, the same with a RW in place of Willian.

Runs in behind are the key to breaking down these teams who sit deep. We don't have full backs or wingers doing it, with that example it's easy to read what we do.

YES!!! Couldn't agree more!

I see that is where Pulisic is going to be good as he does like getting behind defenders.

Jorgi would have loved Schurrle cause he liked doing it too.

Wish we had a few that just tried to move into some sort of position for Jorgi to pass to. Stop all you moaning gits harping on about sideways and back passes!

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