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Nicolo Barella

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3 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

Not a fan of Nandez either. I hope we just get Paredes or Barella or both but then we need to shift our focus to Wings and ST position asap. We are effing loaded in midfield already. I really dont get the fuzz. we have BArkley, Kante, RLC, Jorginho, Kovacic, Ampadu.Adn it is not that Jorginho's role requires a unique skillset, it is more mental and tatical conditioning years of physical or technical training.

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Just now, Magic Lamps said:

Not a fan of Nandez either. I hope we just get Paredes or Barella or both but then we need to shift our focus to Wings and ST position asap. We are effing loaded in midfield already. I really dont get the fuzz. we have BArkley, Kante, RLC, Jorginho, Kovacic, Ampadu.Adn it is not that Jorginho's role requires a unique skillset, it is more mental and tatical conditioning years of physical or technical training.

The problem being is that Ross and RLC just aren't good enough if we are serious about wanting to compete at the highest level.

IMO we need 4 positions upgrading at the top equal priority

ST/RW/LB/CAM - we can upgrade CB and RB (more offensively) ASAP after.

And IF Edens gone that gives us another pain!

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25 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

The problem being is that Ross and RLC just aren't good enough if we are serious about wanting to compete at the highest level.

IMO we need 4 positions upgrading at the top equal priority

ST/RW/LB/CAM - we can upgrade CB and RB (more offensively) ASAP after.

And IF Edens gone that gives us another pain!

Ross alright, I probably agree but he could still hang around as a squad player given he is homegrown and shit.

About RLC I would say the jury is still out. I liked most of what i saw from him this season even if played out of position for most of it. Lets see how he fares when he returns from injury and assess his sutiation in the summer.

I agree about the othe rpositions tho.

But I think if Eden leaves, the way we play will be different altogether. When Eden is on the pitch everyone relies on him which the opponent knows and shuts him out. If not we are less predictable even if we lack quality. We will not be able to compensate his loss 1 to 1 but rather by tweaking the system and buying several new players.

 

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33 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

if Eden leaves, the way we play will be different altogether.

Agree

Sadly I think that Eden slows us down at times, Peeps will agree or not but he does do some same moves at times.

I would dearly love him to be more direct.  Like when he has it in his mind that he is going to get to the goal  The Eden that came out Vs Gooners and the goal Vs Victimpool,  I would just like him to get some grit. Even if it didn't always come off.

I know he gets man marked and double marked but hes used to that. He also needs support up there with him as that cant be easy for him. But I do think if he had a couple of different lads with him he could do so much more.

51 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Ross alright, I probably agree but he could still hang around as a squad player given he is homegrown and shit.

About RLC I would say the jury is still out. I liked most of what i saw from him this season even if played out of position for most of it. Lets see how he fares when he returns from injury and assess his sutiation in the summer.

Its awful having to piclkk a player purely cause he is HG

RLC has had so many chances to prove himself but on;y done it a very few times. We give him too much credit as hhe is  from the academy and we over hyped him far too early. I had high hopes but always considered him gangley and looked awkward like Bambi on ice. Nut hes a big strong guy with a bit of pace and skill now n then. He hust doesn't keep his form. Hes not some kid any more  hes almost 23..

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4 minutes ago, nyikolajevics said:

So, this guy is not coming, right?

No clue yet, if we do buy him now, he would be loaned back, I so so hope he do that or buy him in the summer

he is a truly special player

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Cagliari boss hints Nicolo Barella will stay at club despite Chelsea transfer links

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https://metro.co.uk/2019/01/13/cagliari-boss-hints-nicolo-barella-will-stay-club-despite-chelsea-transfer-links-8339987/

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Cagliari want as much as £45million for the 21-year-old Barella, while the more experienced Paredes would cost around £30m. After Chelsea battled to a 2-1 win over Newcastle, Maurizio Sarri appealed again to the club to make signings. ‘Today Jorginho was in trouble and on the bench there wasn’t a player for that position,’ Sarri said. ‘I need an option for Jorginho.’

Sarri has insisted again and again he has no power over transfers, but is thought to be more keen on Barella than Paredes. Chelsea are also fielding offers for their Brazilian forward Willian, and Sarri was asked about the pursuit of Paredes and Barella. ‘I have no idea,’ Sarri said. ‘It’s not too much [of a worry for me]. [If] the club is worried, I don’t know. ‘The club knows very well my opinion. I need the player there [in that position]. It depends on the club decision, I think. I cannot do anything more.’

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14 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Cagliari boss hints Nicolo Barella will stay at club despite Chelsea transfer links

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https://metro.co.uk/2019/01/13/cagliari-boss-hints-nicolo-barella-will-stay-club-despite-chelsea-transfer-links-8339987/

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Cagliari want as much as £45million for the 21-year-old Barella, while the more experienced Paredes would cost around £30m. After Chelsea battled to a 2-1 win over Newcastle, Maurizio Sarri appealed again to the club to make signings. ‘Today Jorginho was in trouble and on the bench there wasn’t a player for that position,’ Sarri said. ‘I need an option for Jorginho.’

Sarri has insisted again and again he has no power over transfers, but is thought to be more keen on Barella than Paredes. Chelsea are also fielding offers for their Brazilian forward Willian, and Sarri was asked about the pursuit of Paredes and Barella. ‘I have no idea,’ Sarri said. ‘It’s not too much [of a worry for me]. [If] the club is worried, I don’t know. ‘The club knows very well my opinion. I need the player there [in that position]. It depends on the club decision, I think. I cannot do anything more.’

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We should just buy him now and loan him back cause the big clubs will be lining up to sign him in the summer 

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24 minutes ago, the wes said:

We should just buy him now and loan him back cause the big clubs will be lining up to sign him in the summer 

That is exactly what I have been saying since I saw his wife doesn't want to move now as she is 6 months pregnant.

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1 minute ago, Unionjack said:

Antonio Cassano claims Chelsea target Barella is not worth price-tag

https://www.101greatgoals.com/news/antonio-cassano-claims-chelsea-target-barella-is-not-worth-price-tag/

So says the Real Madrid massive bust who is known throughout much of his career as having a shit attitude, poor workrate, and poor fitness levels.

I smell jelly...........

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Cassano

 

Real Madrid

Cassano became the second ever Italian player to sign for Real Madrid after former Roma teammate Christian Panucci. His debut came on 18 January 2006 in a Spanish Cup match against Real Betis, and scored his first goal just three minutes after entering the match in the second half.[11] Just four months into his tenure with the club, however, he began gaining weight due to poor eating habits, which resulted in Madrid fining him for every gram he remained over his playing weight,[25] and earned him the nickname "Gordito".[26]

On 30 October, Real Madrid's official website announced that Cassano had been suspended due to his "disrespect" of Capello, who had joined the club at the beginning of 2006–07 season, following a dressing room argument arising from his omission from the team after a game against Gimnàstic de Tarragona,[27] and was subsequently benched along with David Beckham and Ronaldo. In an interview with a Roman radio station, Cassano said he would "walk all the way back" to rejoin Roma, and indicated his eagerness to make peace with Totti, with whom Cassano had conflicted with before his departure from Roma. Cassano, however, remained with Madrid after the January 2007 transfer window had closed, and the rest of his season was cut short by an ankle injury. Despite winning the 2006–07 La Liga title with Real Madrid, Cassano only made seven league appearances, scoring just a single goal.[28]

In an interview with Spanish radio in July 2007, Real Madrid president Ramón Calderón described Cassano's attitude as "unsustainable in the last couple of months" and indicated that he would be leaving the club.[29]

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8 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

Antonio Cassano claims Chelsea target Barella is not worth price-tag

https://www.101greatgoals.com/news/antonio-cassano-claims-chelsea-target-barella-is-not-worth-price-tag/

Nicolo Barella: The Cagliari midfielder lauded by Andrea Pirlo

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/45589553

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On 1/11/2019 at 9:24 PM, Unionjack said:

RLC has had so many chances to prove himself but on;y done it a very few times. We give him too much credit as hhe is  from the academy and we over hyped him far too early. I had high hopes but always considered him gangley and looked awkward like Bambi on ice. Nut hes a big strong guy with a bit of pace and skill now n then. He hust doesn't keep his form. Hes not some kid any more  hes almost 23..

Disagree mate about RLC being given many chances, he hasn't. He has impressed much more than Kovacic and Barkley in less opportunities. The most frustrating thing about RLC is the injuries, he was on his way to being given much more playing time before the back thing happened. 

Barring a few occasions, he has always impressed. And most of his bad games this season coincided when he was fighting his back problems. Who knows if RLC is the answer but i would place him higher than Kovacic and Barkley. The later is just not good enough, and the former is not a Chelsea player and hasen't shown to be an answer. 

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1 minute ago, Vesper said:

Nicolo Barella: The Cagliari midfielder lauded by Andrea Pirlo

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/45589553

Think theres summet up already about Pirlo. Was ome of the 1st things we said about him werem't it?

Cassano is one of those whiney guys that bitch about people whem playing and gets worse when they stop.

Didn't I remember him coming out of retirement again and it lasted 8 days.

 

Barella and Paredes must be crap cause theres a queue of clubs after them.

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9 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

Disagree mate about RLC being given many chances, he hasn't. He has impressed much more than Kovacic and Barkley in less opportunities. The most frustrating thing about RLC is the injuries, he was on his way to being given much more playing time before the back thing happened. 

Barring a few occasions, he has always impressed. And most of his bad games this season coincided when he was fighting his back problems. Who knows if RLC is the answer but i would place him higher than Kovacic and Barkley. The later is just not good enough, and the former is not a Chelsea player and hasen't shown to be an answer. 

Must be watching a different RLC to you bud.

Hes had lots of chances over time and never lived up to his 'potential'

Kovacic whether hes our player or not is much better - tho neither is the kind of ANC we need.

Id try RLC as ST.

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Just now, Unionjack said:

Think theres summet up already about Pirlo. Was ome of the 1st things we said about him werem't it?

Cassano is one of those whiney guys that bitch about people whem playing and gets worse when they stop.

Didn't I remember him coming out of retirement again and it lasted 8 days.

 

Barella and Paredes must be crap cause theres a queue of clubs after them.

Oh, yes, that article was already posted, I just tossed it up again as it was the perfect rejoinder to the Cassano critique. I trust Pirlo (who has a rep as being REALLY picky, to a fault) over him all day long.

The only other Italian MFer Pirlo is so high on, btw, is main target for DH DMF backup of Joginho, Sandro Tonali.

It is why I thought Barella AND Tonali both brought in would be genius, as Barella, besides an upgrade over Kovacic/Barkley at the 3rd spot in MF, can also play a DH DMF at times so we could truly ease in the 18yo Tonali.

Paredes, IF he comes for six months and then we sell him to Boca Jrs and bring in Barella (hopefully via a buy now and 6 month loan back to Cagliari so his wife can give birth in Italy with him there by her side) AND Sandro in the summer, would be the ultimate brilliant all round move.

Round it off with Kovacic being allowed to go back to RM, who would sell him to his favourite place, Inter. All would be happy and on teams they could flourish on and and also actually LIKE where they are at

I think at 3-dimensional chess levels, hope the board does too.

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4 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

Must be watching a different RLC to you bud.

Hes had lots of chances over time and never lived up to his 'potential'

Kovacic whether hes our player or not is much better - tho neither is the kind of ANC we need.

Id try RLC as ST.

No clue why Sarri didnt try and use Kovacic as Jorgi backup and Cesc as a consistent 60th, 70th minute lock-picker sub.

Also, like you said, RLC at striker and Barkley at RW. Barkley seems much more a winger than RLC, and I can so see RLC at striker.

I know I am really being silly now, but also wouldn't have minded at all to see Kovacic given a trial at RB. Thats how Barca found out about how great a RB Sergi Roberto was. He was a CMF almost with exact same role Kovacic has for us. They are the same size basically, and both technical as hell.

I HATE that Sarri is not experimental at ALL. EVERY other big team is, some more than others, but most all are. Klopp played Fabihno at centre-back ffs the last game. 

Sarri's big experiment was this bloody stupid false nine shit, when he KNOWS Eden is NOT at ALL a similar player to Dries Mertens, as Mertens is a box-dweller poacher.

Dont take my word for it

here is the man himself:

Hazard, however, has different ideas.

"Dries is more of a striker than me," he insisted. "I am more like a playmaker. Since I started [playing] football I like to come and touch the ball. Dries is not like this, he just wants to stay in the box. That's why he scores a lot of goals.

"We are different, but I know Sarri likes to change some positions and that happens sometimes."

http://www.espn.com/soccer/chelsea/story/3737759/eden-hazard-prefers-winger-despite-recent-shift-under-maurizio-sarri

 

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55 minutes ago, Vesper said:

HATE that Sarri is not experimental at ALL. EVERY other big team is, some more than others, but most all are. Klopp played Fabihno at centre-back ffs the last game. 

I want Sarri to do good. And think if we get some right players in he will. Tho we still can if the lads just get their shit right.

 

Why not do what your manager asks of you and do it to your best ability while keeping in a good frame of mind?

Eden is a employee of Chelsea and his manager wants him to do a different job cause hes a better option that the others we have. Suck it up Eden!

And sign yer sodding contract !!

While I do think Sarri will work out  but gotta say he has me running at walls head first at times with some of his team selections..

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11 minutes ago, Yeboii said:

Seems like he is not coming based of recent reports :(

I am losing hope too. It is REALLY a hammer blow for me as Barella is the first one of my actual players I wanted this season that the board made an attempt at. Until he shows me otherwise, I think Pulisic was a calculated marketing revenue-generating move.

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