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Krzysztof Piatek

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On 20/1/2019 at 11:20 PM, Vesper said:

Milan reach agreement to sign Krzysztof Piatek from Genoa for €35m

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jan/20/milan-sign-krzysztof-piatek-gonea?CMP=share_btn_tw

 

still gotta LOL @ anyone saying that less than HALF what we paid for Morata is a gamble not worth taking

#fuckChelsboard

morata played in real madrid, juventus (reaching the champions league's final with his goals) 

piatek scored some goals in a middle serie A squad in all his career 

 

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39 minutes ago, Antonio8 said:

morata played in real madrid, juventus (reaching the champions league's final with his goals) 

piatek scored some goals in a middle serie A squad in all his career 

 

Morata never scored at this rate and Piatek is less than half his price. We shall see how he does at AC Milan. If he turns into a consistent 20 plus goals a year striker, he will soon be close to 100 euros, no doubt.

Remember, Piatek was only my fifth choice, after

Icardi

Dybala

Werner

Jovic

 

I am not against the loan of Higs per se , BUT his loan fee (from all that I have read it is at the same rate Milan was paying), for one full year is at a rate of 18m euros! Thats 27m euros for an 18 month loan. Plus his salary is way more than double Piatek's.

So, lets say summer of 2020, we don't exercise buy option on Higs (I doubt we will)

We have paid more to LOAN Higuain for a year and half (when salary is tossed in) that what Piatek would have cost TO BUY OUTRIGHT and pay salary!

Nothing to show for it with Higs versus OWNING outright a great young striker who surely, even if not the true answer we could sell for what we paid for him.

We are literally tossing money down the shitter.

BAD BUSINESS

 

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14 hours ago, Vesper said:

Morata never scored at this rate and Piatek is less than half his price. We shall see how he does at AC Milan. If he turns into a consistent 20 plus goals a year striker, he will soon be close to 100 euros, no doubt.

Remember, Piatek was only my fifth choice, after

Icardi

Dybala

Werner

Jovic

 

I am not against the loan of Higs per se , BUT his loan fee (from all that I have read it is at the same rate Milan was paying), for one full year is at a rate of 18m euros! Thats 27m euros for an 18 month loan. Plus his salary is way more than double Piatek's.

So, lets say summer of 2020, we don't exercise buy option on Higs (I doubt we will)

We have paid more to LOAN Higuain for a year and half (when salary is tossed in) that what Piatek would have cost TO BUY OUTRIGHT and pay salary!

Nothing to show for it with Higs versus OWNING outright a great young striker who surely, even if not the true answer we could sell for what we paid for him.

We are literally tossing money down the shitter.

BAD BUSINESS

 

I don't care about money, the only important thing for me is to give  to the coach, players that fit with his idea of football

higuain is one of them, and now let's see how sarriball works 

 

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10 hours ago, Antonio8 said:

I don't care about money, the only important thing for me is to give  to the coach, players that fit with his idea of football

higuain is one of them, and now let's see how sarriball works 

 

The board has blown out many deals over far less money, so it is a valid critique.

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Think Piatek might flop at Milan in all honesty. He had a good start at Genoa but Milan is another level all together and although they arent amazing could be too big a move imo. Better platform than Madrid though, hed really struggle there if he didnt start well.

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2 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Think Piatek might flop at Milan in all honesty. He had a good start at Genoa but Milan is another level all together and although they arent amazing could be too big a move imo. Better platform than Madrid though, hed really struggle there if he didnt start well.

What do you think of Luka Jovic?

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15 hours ago, Antonio8 said:

I don't care about money, the only important thing for me is to give  to the coach, players that fit with his idea of football

higuain is one of them, and now let's see how sarriball works 

 

Yeah this one player should make a world of a differencet!

Not sure how he can change the players attitudes tho!

Lets just hope he gives us a few goals.

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20 hours ago, Vesper said:

What do you think of Luka Jovic?

I would say hes a better player than Piatek, Frankfurt are a decent outfit too (better last season) and come the summer I wouldnt be surprised if something was on the cards, a team at a bigger level, someone like a Dortmund (I know their top of the league but) where the platforms really good for young players because they have patience and the pressure isnt huge or an Atletico where they bring strikers on really really well (although they are pretty stocked up in that department when Morata goes if he hasnt already). Think Bayern might go for him too if they dont get Werner and IF Kovac stays as they worked together last season but I would think he would be wary about making a big move too soon and not playing every week as well because he had the same at Benfica and he still needs to play regularly to further develop but the potential there is potentially huge.

 

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Watching him,I can  only imagine  what would have been if we had had him last year.He will thrive under someone like Conte.

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The first was a clinical strikers goal after a defensive error by Napoli but the second one was sublime, holding off two defenders and scoring from a difficult angle. Superb goal. Would have loved to take Piatek and not Higuain. Would have been cheaper in the end too. But yeah Sarri knows Higuain for whatever that's worth. Even if Higuain hits the ground running in his next game, it is stil a short term solution. Striker's like piatek are so overpirced nowadays, he was an absolute steal for 40m. 

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The first was a clinical strikers goal after a defensive error by Napoli but the second one was sublime, holding off two defenders and scoring from a difficult angle. Superb goal. Would have loved to take Piatek and not Higuain. Would have been cheaper in the end too. But yeah Sarri knows Higuain for whatever that's worth. Even if Higuain hits the ground running in his next game, it is stil a short term solution. Striker's like piatek are so overpirced nowadays, he was an absolute steal for 40m. 
I'm sure more team would have gone for him, if he didn't have that dry spell.

Probably at the best place to continue his growth, though.
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27 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

I'm sure more team would have gone for him, if he didn't have that dry spell.
 

his dry spell was 4 games as starter, only 3 the full game, and one as sub, it lasted 20 days

since then he has 8 goals in 9 games

21 in 23 games

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his dry spell was 4 games as starter, only 3 the full game, and one as sub, it lasted 20 days since then he has 8 goals in 9 games

21 in 23 games

 

He failed to score against Juve, Milan, Inter & Napoli prior to his move too.

 

 

Reason you can see why the hype cooled down once the window opened.

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3 minutes ago, LAM09 said:
20 minutes ago, Vesper said:
his dry spell was 4 games as starter, only 3 the full game, and one as sub, it lasted 20 days
since then he has 8 goals in 9 games
21 in 23 games

He failed to score against Juve, Milan, Inter & Napoli. These things stick out for potential suitors

Well, if we are comparing him to Higuain, Higs has scored one goal in the last 3 months, against SPAL, over a month ago now. 2 goals against top 9 (Sampdoria and Atalanta) teams

Failed to score against Juve, Napoli, Roma, Inter, Juve again. 

Piatek has 6 goals against top 9 teams

Also, Genoa is pure shit for supporting cast compared to Milan. They have one player rated over £6.3m, a 21yo CF Christian Kouamé at £12.6m The entire squad, minus Piatek is worth about what Juve paid for CR7. Average value is £3.05m That is pretty close to what the market would return on the players they have, as they have no vastly undervalued young stars now, other than Kouamé. Finally it is actually even worse, as that valuation includes LOANED players, and EIGHT of their top 11 in value are on loan. If you subtract out the loaned players value, Genoa is worth as a team £51.5m, or around £7m LESS than we just paid for Pulisic.

Milan is valued at £414m, and market true price would be close to 2/3rds of a billion quid, so average value per player would be around £23m, or to compare, £20m more per player than a typical Genoa teammate. After they buy Bakayoko, NONE of their players will be loanees, and the 2 main players they themselves have out on loan, with a combined real valuation of £50m more (Andre Silva,option for Sevilla who will exercise and Manuel Locatelli, mandatory buy for Sassuolo) will be purchased as part of the loan deals.

 

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Well, if we are comparing him to Higuain, Higs has scored one goal in the last 3 months, against SPAL, over a month ago now. 2 goals against top 9 (Sampdoria and Atalanta) teams
Failed to score against Juve, Napoli, Roma, Inter, Juve again. 
Piatek has 6 goals against top 9 teams
Also, Genoa is pure shit for supporting cast compared to Milan. They have one player rated over £6.3m, a 21yo CF Christian Kouamé at £12.6m The entire squad, minus Piatek is worth about what Juve paid for CR7. Average value is £3.05m That is pretty close to what the market would return on the players they have, as they have no vastly undervalued young stars now, other than Kouamé. Finally it is actually even worse, as that valuation includes LOANED players, and EIGHT of their top 11 in value are on loan. If you subtract out the loaned players value, Genoa is worth as a team £51.5m, or around £7m LESS than we just paid for Pulisic.
Milan is valued at £414m, and market true price would be close to 2/3rds of a billion quid, so average value per player would be around £23m, or to compare, £20m more per player than a typical Genoa teammate. After they buy Bakayoko, NONE of their players will be loanees, and the 2 main players they themselves have out on loan, with a combined real valuation of £50m more (Andre Silva,option for Sevilla who will exercise and Manuel Locatelli, mandatory buy for Sassuolo) will be purchased as part of the loan deals.
 
I certainly wasn't comparing him to Higuain. Just replying to someone that mentioned him as a better fit.

Any player "new to the scene" should have an entire season under their belt at least. Far too many one season wonders over the last decade.

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6 hours ago, LAM09 said:

I'm sure more team would have gone for him, if he didn't have that dry spell.

Probably at the best place to continue his growth, though.

Problem is if he continues like this he'll be 100m+ player very soon.

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