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Jason

17. Mateo Kovacic

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36 minutes ago, termninja said:

I'm not too happy about this transfer if there is no option to buy in the deal. If he does well, then Real will take him from us. If he does bad, then why not give Loftus-Cheek  and Bakayoko a chance? You may not like Bakayoko, but at least he is our player...

Because he is better than all of our options. Simple as.

I'm sure after a season he will want to stay with us and we know how that works.

I would also want us to get Talisca in the winter window.

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4 hours ago, Mana said:


Nope. Morata’s useless even if he gets a number of chances.

We need a new CF.

well he got 11 last year , so if he stays fit get his mojo back i don't think its beyond him...i'm being optomistic  ffs the season hasn't started you have to?!

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1 hour ago, DDA said:

You would prefer to play Bakayoko over Kovacic because he is offically our players for keeps ?

Get real.

Bakayoko is an embarrassment to Chelsea football club.

I understand the fact that Madrid still own him leaves a bitter taste on our mouths but Baka-fucking-yoko?? I never want to see that fraud in a Chelsea shirt ever again.

I would prefer us to play RLC, an England international, our academy product and actually a promising player. We have invested millions in developing youth and then we bring a young player from Real Madrid on loan to train him for them. Then next season, we lose RLC (obviously he can't wait half his life to get a chance here) and Kovacic, leaving us with Bakayoko and Drinkwater only, and look we must spend ton of money again on midfield.

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Just imagine next years speculation lol, Kovacic and Hazard build a great partnership and have a great season here then both end up at Madrid next year , can't bare the thought of it.

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4 minutes ago, termninja said:

I would prefer us to play RLC, an England international, our academy product and actually a promising player. We have invested millions in developing youth and then we bring a young player from Real Madrid on loan to train him for them. Then next season, we lose RLC (obviously he can't wait half his life to get a chance here) and Kovacic, leaving us with Bakayoko and Drinkwater only, and look we must spend ton of money again on midfield.

I want RLC to succeed and I think the signing of Kovacic for a year will not stunt his growth at all. There are a lot of games in the season and we needed quality of depth badly. We now have that in midfield. This makes us stronger. Bakayoko made us weaker. 

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Just now, DDA said:

I want RLC to succeed and I think the signing of Kovacic for a year will not stunt his growth at all. There are a lot of games in the season and we needed quality of depth badly. We now have that in midfield. This makes us stronger. Bakayoko made us weaker. 

I understand, but Bakayoko is still here. We should've already handled his situation and sent him on loan or sold him. Instead, we are planning to play a foreign player while our investment of 40mil sits on the bench (if he makes the bench). Bad.

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Just now, DDA said:

I want RLC to succeed and I think the signing of Kovacic for a year will not stunt his growth at all. There are a lot of games in the season and we needed quality of depth badly. We now have that in midfield. This makes us stronger. Bakayoko made us weaker. 

Thing what people are not realising here is we have a new manager and a new style of play to adapt to, for that to happen quickly and with as little teething problems as possible, we need these players that are more developed to it, we can't be developing players and a new style to the team at the same time, while I can see why that would make sense, I think it's too risky.

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The club has learnt from last summer.

We could have taken £70-80m and spread it over a new keeper and midfielder and perhaps got something like Butland/Schmeichel and Vecino.

Instead for a similar outlay we have got Kepa and Kovacic which is significantly better than the above. 

Next summer if Kovacic then needs replacing either (1) Sarri has had a good look or coached the likes of Barkley and RLC to play more prominent roles, (2) We have a new summer budget with which to buy a top midfielder or buy Kovacic permanently.

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11 minutes ago, termninja said:

I understand, but Bakayoko is still here. We should've already handled his situation and sent him on loan or sold him. Instead, we are planning to play a foreign player while our investment of 40mil sits on the bench (if he makes the bench). Bad.

Only the prem window closes today, Serie A is open until end of the month. Chelsea are focusing their time right now on incoming as the window closes in 90 mins. Bakayoko can complete his loan to AC milan any day between now and the end of the month. Same for any other loanees who might be going outside of the prem.

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51 minutes ago, termninja said:

I would prefer us to play RLC, an England international, our academy product and actually a promising player. We have invested millions in developing youth and then we bring a young player from Real Madrid on loan to train him for them. Then next season, we lose RLC (obviously he can't wait half his life to get a chance here) and Kovacic, leaving us with Bakayoko and Drinkwater only, and look we must spend ton of money again on midfield.

We invested in the wrong lad then cause right now hes not Chelsea standard.

You would expect that loaning him to a lower grade team he would stand out but he never set the world on fire.

Him playing for England isnt about how good HE is. Its about how few options there is for his position.

I dont want to slag him off because it would be amazing of course if he did come good. But I cant see it in a Sarri system.

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If he fits in our team, if we will make him happy we can still sign him next Summer. Might cost more but if he will want to leave Madrid will definitely sell him.

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This is where I feel the board's inefficiency by not putting a buy back (hoping it is there & we arent knowing abt it)  ... Kovacic would surely get more game time here than Madrid ... if he lives up to the expectation he goes back to Madrid next season to replace Modric if not Chelsea will buy him. We are basically giving him a platform to justify him as a player and if he succeeds then Madrid takes him away. 

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2 hours ago, Unionjack said:

 

I would also want us to get Talisca in the winter window.

:D:D:D

 

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Just now, Vesper said:

:D:D:D

 

most semsible signing IMHO

How ya been gal? Been a bit quiet last week. You OK?

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Just now, Unionjack said:

most semsible signing IMHO

How ya been gal? Been a bit quiet last week. You OK?

Major M&A deal at my hedge fund, been knee deep in a 45,000 page contract:(

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5 hours ago, DYC. said:

As for Kovacic, very talented but unproven. I can only hope he hits the ground running because there's no time to adapt with this deal. I am looking forward to the prospect of this new midfield though. Games in 18/19 shouldn't be as painfully dull as they were in 17/18 .

Yup if this is indeed just a one year loan deal, he doesn't have much time to adapt or find his feet. When given the opportunity he has to play good and make an impact immediately. If he struggles initially, he may find himself on the bench and we may see very little of him. 

So this could go either way, either he is too good not to play and the team benefit a lot, or he could be ridding the bench on the entirety of this loan. 

But i don't see this being a one year loan only, he basically did the same thing as Tibo to force a move he went awol. Can't see Kova wanting to go back to Madrid. I think Madrid priced Kova too high, they wanted 80m. They decided on a loan and maybe there is arrangement in place for a sale. 

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Its going to be interesting to see how Sarri handles our 3 CM. Might do some switching about?

Would love seeing WBM heading for goal now and then.

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