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5. Jorginho

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2 hours ago, killer1257 said:

And people thought that Jorgi was world class lol

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If Jorginho started against palace instead of bringing him on against crystal palace when the opponents were tired, we would have lost that game.

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Jorginho redeemed himself in Palace, now just completely destroyed himself against Sheffield Utd. 
 

Disgusting. WTF is going on with these players? CL is at stake here!

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Jorginho needs good midfield partners around him to succeed. Playing the man child Barkley (out of position) near him certainly doesn't help. Kante-Jorginho-Kokavic is our best midfield IMO but he can also sit out games where we have most of the ball anyway. There have also been games against City, of all teams, where we dominated the ball and it was because of him.

If Pep got him instead, I have a feeling we would be purring over the prospect of having him in the team. The fact is, there were a lot of players all around him today who do absolutely nothing to help him shine. He is surrounded by crap. A shakey defence, braindead fullbacks and two naive and shy midfielders who are out of position. I can't think of any player in his position who would have done a good job under those circumstances today.

I kind of feel sorry for him tbh.

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Jorgi was awful today. I mean we can't do any buildup. I said Gilmour need to play like jorgi at times but Jorgi also need to play like Gilmour more, I mean a lot more. We can't do any buildup. 

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1 hour ago, SUNZ said:

One of the worst midfielders we have ever had. A complete and utter joke of a player.

Yet people will gather together and blame Mount for not providing tons or gallons of assists when he is yet playing his first senior top level professional amidst a squad in disarray...

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8 minutes ago, Alabama said:

Yet people will gather together and blame Mount for not providing tons or gallons of assists when he is yet playing his first senior top level professional amidst a squad in disarray...

Mount is FAR more valuable to our team than Jorginho

overall I think Mount has been so solid this year

he provides a tonne of intangibles

other than pens

Jorginho has, at least 60-70% of the time, been a negative

he is so shit defensively plus slows the fuck out of our play most times

and I don't want to hear about how many tackles he has, he is weak and gets caught out so often

we so so need to sell him

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24 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Mount is FAR more valuable to our team than Jorginho

overall I think Mount has been so solid this year

he provides a tonne of intangibles

other than pens

Jorginho has, at least 60-70% of the time, been a negative

he is so shit defensively plus slows the fuck out of our play most times

and I don't want to hear about how many tackles he has, he is weak and gets caught out so often

we so so need to sell him

It's so enigmatic to me yet fans pick on Mount....

Jorginho on the other hand is pointless only pointless side passes so soft as fukc cannot take control of the game whe  things go down south...no invention on the ball no creativity all sideways passes...

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Just now, Alabama said:

It's so enigmatic to me yet fans pick on Mount....

Jorginho on the other hand is pointless only pointless side passes so soft as fukc cannot take control of the game whe  things go down south...so invention on the ball no creativity all sideways passes...

sarriball Lamps style is an ugly thing

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sarriball Lamps style is an ugly thing

Sarri Ball or Lamps Ball only works when you have some creativity on the pitch. Barkley Jorgi and Mount will give you a lot of running, but does not create any chances. That is why we get punished all the time by the opponents. They realise

that our passing is of low quality and then they punish us. If we had some great passing, the opponents would fear us more. Currently, Sarri Ball or Lampard Ball is a waste of time because Lampard uses the most uncreative players in our whole squad. I think even Giroud is more competent than Mount and Barkley when it comes to creating chances

 

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People talk about fluidity and creating chances then slag Jorginho off without remembering that him, Kovacic and Mount were all very good together at the start of the season when the team was flying. Coincidence we start looking poorer and predictable in MF when Frank changes things? Okay the transitional side has always been an issue but that 3 looked very capable of controlling and creating chances. Obviously it is a difficult position to be in for a young manager to have Kante available and out of the side but lets not forget he has his qualities and games he can be effective in also.

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People talk about fluidity and creating chances then slag Jorginho off without remembering that him, Kovacic and Mount were all very good together at the start of the season when the team was flying. Coincidence we start looking poorer and predictable in MF when Frank changes things? Okay the transitional side has always been an issue but that 3 looked very capable of controlling and creating chances. Obviously it is a difficult position to be in for a young manager to have Kante available and out of the side but lets not forget he has his qualities and games he can be effective in also.
Kovacic can create chances and is our best midfielder. He makes a huge difference for our midfield

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Should be sold. He is just so poor. A luxury player in PL. Just not built for this league. A proper regista for the slow and pedestrian serie a. 

Just looka so bad and out of place in this league. Needs to be sold.

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9 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

People talk about fluidity and creating chances then slag Jorginho off without remembering that him, Kovacic and Mount were all very good together at the start of the season when the team was flying. Coincidence we start looking poorer and predictable in MF when Frank changes things? Okay the transitional side has always been an issue but that 3 looked very capable of controlling and creating chances. Obviously it is a difficult position to be in for a young manager to have Kante available and out of the side but lets not forget he has his qualities and games he can be effective in also.

The problem with Jorgi is that he need to help us progress the ball faster otherwise there is no point playing him there. 

With kante our ball movement is also not as fast but defensively it is night and day. 

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1 hour ago, communicate said:

The problem with Jorgi is that he need to help us progress the ball faster otherwise there is no point playing him there. 

With kante our ball movement is also not as fast but defensively it is night and day. 

Personally for me, while we werent particularly solid at the beginning of the season and still fot caught on transitions, we still looked better with Jorginho, Kovacic and Mount in MF than we do now. 

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13 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Personally for me, while we werent particularly solid at the beginning of the season and still fot caught on transitions, we still looked better with Jorginho, Kovacic and Mount in MF than we do now. 

Agree, Jori needs protection (Kova, Mount or Kante) Ross and Ruben are one way players. They're also are not good enough going one way for Chelsea. Frank is responsible for starting any 2 of these together in the midfield (Ross, Ruben & Jori), Kova, Mount & Jori had the best chemistry this year so far

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