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Jason

5. Jorginho

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18 hours ago, Abreu03 said:

Tackles won

Busquets - 85 (2.58 per game)
Jorginho - 72 (2.06 per game)
Fernandinho - 57 (1.97 per game)

Interceptions 

Jorginho - 58 (1.66 per game)
Busquets - 51 (1.55 per game)
Fernandinho - 41 (1.41 per game)

yes but stats are useless (when they demonstrate the contrary of what people think:P)

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I have to say that his defensive tackles have been quite impressive lately. He learned a lot from Kante, but he has still to improve when it comes to playing creative long balls.Currently, he rarely plays those and we really need a player that can play creative passes. If he can improve that, he will be class for the next coming years

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13 hours ago, Stats said:

Patience... finally looks like it is paying off. Fans are starting to see his qualities. Was brilliant tonight. Just annoys me how little patience fans have on here. Suddenly you will get several who will be saying Jorginho is a must in the team, etc and giving him praise. Wish people would think before they slate players. New settings, different team, all these things can take a while for a player to adjust but some people won't accept that. The same way people are praising RLC now, few months ago were ones who probably were saying he is not good enough to play here.

Anyway that being said, glad Jorginho is starting to get plaudits from Chelsea fans in recent matches and hopefully the form continues.

I admit I was one who slagged him off previously, but he improved recently.

However I will be only amazed once he brings consistent performances in PL, because thats why we all pointed fingers at in the first place; that he cant handle the pace and power of PL.

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On 10/05/2019 at 7:47 AM, Jason said:

This was filthy!

 

Think that shows how confident he is right now. Hes playing excellently. Think him, Kante and Ruben have to be our main MF 3 next year.

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Just now, NiclasCFC said:

Imagine him and Kante in a two and Ruben as the number ten in a 4-2-3-1. One can dream...

Sarri too stubborn to change tactics and experiment.

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MOST DISTANCE COVERED - TOP 10 

Luka Milivojevic - 278 miles

Jack Cork - 277 miles

Jorginho - 260 miles

Wilfred Ndidi - 254 miles 

N'Golo Kante - 253 miles

Cesar Azpilicueta - 251 miles

James McArthur - 250 miles

Gylfi Sigurdsson - 249 miles

Abdoulaye Doucoure - 245 miles

Ben Chilwell - 244 miles 

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On 21/05/2019 at 11:43 AM, the wes said:

MOST DISTANCE COVERED - TOP 10 

Luka Milivojevic - 278 miles

Jack Cork - 277 miles

Jorginho - 260 miles

Wilfred Ndidi - 254 miles 

N'Golo Kante - 253 miles

Cesar Azpilicueta - 251 miles

James McArthur - 250 miles

Gylfi Sigurdsson - 249 miles

Abdoulaye Doucoure - 245 miles

Ben Chilwell - 244 miles 

"He cant run" - Rio Ferdinand and half the Chelse fan base......

Really think hes gonna be huge for us next season and play so much more consistently as is the team.

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On 5/22/2019 at 9:55 AM, OneMoSalah said:

"He cant run" - Rio Ferdinand and half the Chelse fan base......

Really think hes gonna be huge for us next season and play so much more consistently as is the team.

Nah he can't run. Fabregas was usually the one who covered the most ground for us and we all know he is really slow. 

Jorginho is not athletic enough for epl That is a fact. The problem is he is not our biggest problem,yet most people keep talking about him. 

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13 hours ago, communicate said:

Nah he can't run. Fabregas was usually the one who covered the most ground for us and we all know he is really slow. 

Jorginho is not athletic enough for epl That is a fact. The problem is he is not our biggest problem,yet most people keep talking about him. 

Being athletic isnt a hugely defining factor if you have other facets to your game. Reading the game well makes a huge difference in any position.

Sergio Busquets is not hugely athletic but he reads the game so well and is rarely caught out. Plus he is exceptional at passing through the lines and getting the ball back. Welsey Sneidjer wasn't renowned for being hugely athletic at all but he was a brilliant player at Inter under Mourinho because he knew where to be and his intelligence and technical attributes were excellent. Andrea Pirlo wasnt hugely athletic but again knew where to stand where to be to intercept/tackle etc. If youve got footballing intelligence and can read the game you dont need to be hugely quick or strong. Terry as a CB here in his latter years, was slow as fuck but again reading the game so well. 

The German tesm who won the world cup had a good mix of both physical and intelligent players.

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2 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Being athletic isnt a hugely defining factor if you have other facets to your game. Reading the game well makes a huge difference in any position.

Sergio Busquets is not hugely athletic but he reads the game so well and is rarely caught out. Plus he is exceptional at passing through the lines and getting the ball back. Welsey Sneidjer wasn't renowned for being hugely athletic at all but he was a brilliant player at Inter under Mourinho because he knew where to be and his intelligence and technical attributes were excellent. Andrea Pirlo wasnt hugely athletic but again knew where to stand where to be to intercept/tackle etc. If youve got footballing intelligence and can read the game you dont need to be hugely quick or strong. Terry as a CB here in his latter years, was slow as fuck but again reading the game so well. 

The German tesm who won the world cup had a good mix of both physical and intelligent players.

Wesley Sneijder scored one of my all time favourite WC goals, knocked out Brasil in 2010:wub:

That WC was also the by far the most cash I ever won in a wager, as I got 40-1 odds on Diego Forlan on a 50 quid bet for the Golden Ball

so... BOOM £2000 and baby got a new Fendi bag!

(I almost never gamble but my father called me from the Mayfair Ladbrokes and asked me if I wanted to lay a bet on anything, and that one just was a pure hunch as I had just read an article about the players with best hair at the WC, lol, featuring Forlan) 

 

 

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In my mind before the final I thought the ups and down of this season for him was mostly down to his first yeah in the PL. 

Needed some time to adjust. 

I do expect next season he will be better. If not then he's only good in the Serie A. 

We shall see next season. 

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2 minutes ago, Fernando said:

In my mind before the final I thought the ups and down of this season for him was mostly down to his first yeah in the PL. 

Needed some time to adjust. 

I do expect next season he will be better. If not then he's only good in the Serie A. 

We shall see next season. 

I think its a perfect example of someone needing time to settle and adapt. 

New style, language, culture, team mates, etc.

The last few games he has been superb. He was phenomenal in the two semis against Frankfurt and excellent again last night. 

He's adjusted to the lack of time he gets on the ball and releases the ball much quicker than he was earlier in the season. It's also not a coincidence that his upturn in form has coincided with the team's overall improvement recently playing out from the back. He will always be exposed at times defensively because he has physical and athletical limitations but his reading of the game is very good (the number of tackles and blocks he makes shows this) and he has become much more aggressive with his overall play recently. 

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I think generally, his performance in recent games, proves that fans need to be more patience and stop deciding players are a failure for the club. Such a huge majority of people were slating him and I always insisted that the criticism was exaggerated and slightly unfair. He needed time. Fans did the same with Christensen. Completely turned their back on him and decided he was not good enough. Now those fans are probably changing their minds and thinking they probably were too knee-jerk. Same with Kovacic, there is a good player there but fans lack patience. 

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He became quite the good tackler, but he still lacks in creaivity. We need a long term Cesc replacement to solve our lack in creativity.

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