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Special Juan

Sarri But Not Sarri Thread

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1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said:

Juventus need a rebuild regardless of manager. Its no surprise even with Ronaldo they haven’t got to a CL final. They have older experienced players who are good but also set in their ways and wont fit a more aggressive high energy playing style which when you look at some of the teams who have had successful runs in the CL getting to semi finals and finals, they have that and Juve need to go that way and the only way to do it is to go down such a path with a Sarri or a Pochettino or a Tuchel etc. Obviously Sarri gone now but they are talking about Matuidi, Khedira and Higuain all leaving as well as getting shot of Rugani and a few others. Pochettino would be my best bet for going in, think he could rejuvenate some of their guys and also blood in some freshness to the team. They desperately need it if they want to go far in the CL, they need to evolve and become more of a functioning collective than solely dependent on Ronaldo and Dybala - which Sarri sort of decided was going to be easier to do than shape them to his demands when he came in so its fair to say not the sort of thing you’d expect a manager as stubborn as he is to do. They signed Arthur so they have him and Bentancur who is a fantastic midfielder to give them a base around and add to with Dybala, de Ligt but they are still gonna need to shoehorn Ronaldo in to the team and get him to function within it because he is still a top player but one who very much plays in his own set way unless you get a Zidane like figure.

Juve trash bin (might be others they sell too, but all these below are dregs, Ramsey is a nightmare as he is on over £400K PW!!)


Gianluigi Buffon   (43 in January is why)
Carlo Pinsoglio  
Daniele Rugani  <<<< thank fuck we never bought him
Danilo   
Aaron Ramsey    <<<< LOLOLOL
Blaise Matuidi    (great player, but 34 in April, he is done)
Sami Khedira    <<<< just like Kepa, he never recovered after Lena Gercke,dumped his cheating arse
Simone Muratore   
Marko Pjaca   
Marco Olivieri    
Douglas Costa   <<< one of the biggest assholes in euro footie
Juan Cuadrado   
Gonzalo Higuaín  

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2 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Juventus need a rebuild regardless of manager. Its no surprise even with Ronaldo they haven’t got to a CL final. They have older experienced players who are good but also set in their ways and wont fit a more aggressive high energy playing style which when you look at some of the teams who have had successful runs in the CL getting to semi finals and finals, they have that and Juve need to go that way and the only way to do it is to go down such a path with a Sarri or a Pochettino or a Tuchel etc. Obviously Sarri gone now but they are talking about Matuidi, Khedira and Higuain all leaving as well as getting shot of Rugani and a few others. Pochettino would be my best bet for going in, think he could rejuvenate some of their guys and also blood in some freshness to the team. They desperately need it if they want to go far in the CL, they need to evolve and become more of a functioning collective than solely dependent on Ronaldo and Dybala - which Sarri sort of decided was going to be easier to do than shape them to his demands when he came in so its fair to say not the sort of thing you’d expect a manager as stubborn as he is to do. They signed Arthur so they have him and Bentancur who is a fantastic midfielder to give them a base around and add to with Dybala, de Ligt but they are still gonna need to shoehorn Ronaldo in to the team and get him to function within it because he is still a top player but one who very much plays in his own set way unless you get a Zidane like figure.

Did they really expected Sarri to deliver CL with this squad? RW as starting RB. And they also struggled with RW. Not really creative midfielders. First striker still Higuain? Ajax and Lyon knocked them out last two seasons and this is their level.

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4 minutes ago, DDA said:

Wins Europa L with us and gets sacked. 

Wins Serie A with Juve abd gets sacked.

Football is a cruel game.

 

Never sacked by us...

He walk away simply because of Juventus was too good to turn down coupled with the lure of italian football...

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1 minute ago, Alabama said:

Never sacked by us...

He walk away simply because of Juventus was too good to turn down coupled with the lure of italian football...

Yh but we wanted him to go.

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Pirlo is a massive gamble. Massive. Hopefully he does well and if he does fair play but again as previously mentioned, they need a reshuffle in their playing personnel.

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On 08/08/2020 at 11:29 PM, Yeboii said:

For some reason I feel happy with this as Sarri basically gave up on Chelsea and jumped ship right away when Juve came calling.

Why should he have stuck by us when fans were chanting at him to fuck off while giving him all of the blame and none of the credit?

Loyalty works both ways!

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I never understood the hatred towards this man. He worked 30 years through shit, as a banker and a semi-pro football coach before becoming full-time manager of a big football club. He should be the example and the idol for all the wannabe scouts, managers and accountants on this forum, if anything. The football his Napoli played is some of the best I've ever seen. I'd love to see some of that again so I hope he manages to sign for a club that has the right style of play in place from the beginning for once just to make his 'transition' just that much easier this time (which wasnt the case at Napoli, Chelsea or at Juve).

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When you think about it this guy did wonders with our defense. We had 3rd best defense in the league with Kepa, Alonso, Rudiger and Luiz!

City and Bournemouth games aside where we where shambolic and conceded 10 goals in other 36 games with Sarri we conceded just 29 goals. When we won title with Mourinho 32 and with Conte 33 goals full season.

 

 

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On 21/10/2020 at 6:14 PM, NikkiCFC said:

When you think about it this guy did wonders with our defense. We had 3rd best defense in the league with Kepa, Alonso, Rudiger and Luiz!

City and Bournemouth games aside where we where shambolic and conceded 10 goals in other 36 games with Sarri we conceded just 29 goals. When we won title with Mourinho 32 and with Conte 33 goals full season.

 

 

Dont praise Sarri. People on here will slag you off for that.... yes those points are true. Kepa didn't look horrendous. Neither did Rudiger and neither did Luiz at times. But everything was so much more rigid and structured which can help players look better. But people wanted him gone, the fans didn't appreciate what he was trying to do or understand him. There was so much complaining (on here especially but its not as if its any better now in terms of the style of play or that is it? Or if the gap from City and Liverpool is any/getting any closer but we do need time to get these new guys in the team but as we seen with Conte first season, certain managers are able to innovate and make that difference) because of these games where we were predictable in attack (again any surprises bar Eden its not as if he has the likes of Havertz, Werner, Pulisic, Ziyech to work with now like FL has and even then without those players and Eden, our attacking play has suffered since 2020 aftera a promising start with FL) and the fact he didn't play RLC and CHO, which many people think stopped getting him sacked when they started playing them.... as if haha, the results improved, if they got worse with them playing it would of been exactly the same, we seen it with Frank last season also playing young players and not getting good results doesn't grant you any sort of immunity.

I wonder what he's going to do now. That's 2 clubs that have really given him a chance and then turned around an effectively got rid of him after a year. We didn't sack him but we may as well have because we all know that the backing of him in terms of as a manager and what he wanted to do clearly wasn't there based on his comments at the end of May where he was going to have a meeting with Marina and by the sounds of it he was basically making out he wanted to stay, the fan unrest didn't help and then Juventus, huge club was basically an escape for him.

Juventus was always going to be a huge job for anyone, had been saying for ages after Conte and Allegri were the squad had the same backbone for so long, it needed fresh ideas. The Sarri/Tuchel/Pochetino's of the world were the sort of guys they need to go for while refreshing an aging squad and Pirlo looks like he's gonna be in that mould, while trying to play attacking football. 

I think he will get another job at some point this season but I don't know where. He will have plenty Marlboro Reds with that Juventus pay off anyway, meant to be costing them between 20-30m after sacking him because of his contract. 

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4 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Dont praise Sarri. People on here will slag you off for that.... yes those points are true. Kepa didn't look horrendous. Neither did Rudiger and neither did Luiz at times. But everything was so much more rigid and structured which can help players look better. But people wanted him gone, the fans didn't appreciate what he was trying to do or understand him. There was so much complaining (on here especially but its not as if its any better now in terms of the style of play or that is it? Or if the gap from City and Liverpool is any/getting any closer but we do need time to get these new guys in the team but as we seen with Conte first season, certain managers are able to innovate and make that difference) because of these games where we were predictable in attack (again any surprises bar Eden its not as if he has the likes of Havertz, Werner, Pulisic, Ziyech to work with now like FL has and even then without those players and Eden, our attacking play has suffered since 2020 aftera a promising start with FL) and the fact he didn't play RLC and CHO, which many people think stopped getting him sacked when they started playing them.... as if haha, the results improved, if they got worse with them playing it would of been exactly the same, we seen it with Frank last season also playing young players and not getting good results doesn't grant you any sort of immunity.

I wonder what he's going to do now. That's 2 clubs that have really given him a chance and then turned around an effectively got rid of him after a year. We didn't sack him but we may as well have because we all know that the backing of him in terms of as a manager and what he wanted to do clearly wasn't there based on his comments at the end of May where he was going to have a meeting with Marina and by the sounds of it he was basically making out he wanted to stay, the fan unrest didn't help and then Juventus, huge club was basically an escape for him.

Juventus was always going to be a huge job for anyone, had been saying for ages after Conte and Allegri were the squad had the same backbone for so long, it needed fresh ideas. The Sarri/Tuchel/Pochetino's of the world were the sort of guys they need to go for while refreshing an aging squad and Pirlo looks like he's gonna be in that mould, while trying to play attacking football. 

I think he will get another job at some point this season but I don't know where. He will have plenty Marlboro Reds with that Juventus pay off anyway, meant to be costing them between 20-30m after sacking him because of his contract. 

He is linked with Fiorentina now.

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