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Special Juan

Sarri But Not Sarri Thread

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36 minutes ago, Tomo said:

That's life, if you can't get plan a you go for plan b if not b then c and so on. For example i can't imagine a Wijnaldum who's just been relegated with Newcastle was a first choice for Klopp for example but instead of acting like a schoolchild and moaning about how shit he was every chance he got he instead got on with it focused on getting the best out of him and hey presto, key cog in his European cup winning machine.

Yeah but funny we always go for plan c and d, at least with Conte. We handicaped the team in his second season. We should have backed him, he deserved it. And you cant compare klops situation to Conte's. Klops been there for 4-5 seasons, gets to get his players, the board supports his every decision, afforded time etc. We are the only mother fuckers in the elite world that do the opposite. RA fucked up a bit by putting yes men and puppets as leaders.....the proof is in front of us all.

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26 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Conte wanted Tolisso primarily, but settled for Bakayoko. 

Exactly.....I really believe we could have had something special with Conte. His style suited the EPL and with backing could have done major damage in CL, a proper motivator, a winner and the fans clicked with him on the spot. He may have acted badly here and there, but most would given how we fucked the league up with tactics that were copied all over, we needed backing and gave him dross.

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1 hour ago, Atomiswave said:

Yeah but funny we always go for plan c and d, at least with Conte. We handicaped the team in his second season. We should have backed him, he deserved it. And you cant compare klops situation to Conte's. Klops been there for 4-5 seasons, gets to get his players, the board supports his every decision, afforded time etc. We are the only mother fuckers in the elite world that do the opposite. RA fucked up a bit by putting yes men and puppets as leaders.....the proof is in front of us all.

Liverpool's great window last summer seems to give the illusion Klopp's always been fully backed with plan A's which couldn't be further from the truth.

The first summer he got in Matip, Manniger, Karius, Klavan, Mane (when he was still an inconsistent winger) and Wijnaldium andonly two for over £10m, had we signed those 6 players at that point would you honestly have been happy about it? That would be considered a disaster window for us yet he's turned 3 of those into very important players for him and despite such a poor window improved Liverpool's position by 4 places. The following summer he asked for three players to take his side to the next level and began the season with one, although admittedly got the other 2 at a later date. Even the eventual VVD signing were funded by the sale of their best player.

He's had all told 1 truly great window out of 6 since arriving.

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9 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Liverpool's great window last summer seems to give the illusion Klopp's always been fully backed with plan A's which couldn't be further from the truth.

The first summer he got in Matip, Manniger, Karius, Klavan, Mane (when he was still an inconsistent winger) and Wijnaldium andonly two for over £10m, had we signed those 6 players at that point would you honestly have been happy about it? That would be considered a disaster window for us yet he's turned 3 of those into very important players for him and despite such a poor window improved Liverpool's position by 4 places. The following summer he asked for three players to take his side to the next level and began the season with one, although admittedly got the other 2 at a later date. Even the eventual VVD signing were funded by the sale of their best player.

He's had all told 1 truly great window out of 6 since arriving.

And yet I'll bet those players were his choices, not players shoved upon him. We are Chels, the manager wont have much say, sometimes its for the better, more of than not its to the detriment of the squad.

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49 minutes ago, Bosnian Blue said:

Why isn't he gone yet? No point in keeping a manager who doesn"t want to be here.

Yeah just get it done asap, we cant afford the same mistake as last season ( Circus ). We all know he is a goner, get it over with. Pay the compo and he is all yours Juve. He should officially be at Juve this week, hopefully.

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27 minutes ago, DDA said:

Sarri is 100% gone. Who next? Southgate?

i would not be so sure!

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10 hours ago, the wes said:

Maurizio Sarri is likely to leave his role as Chelsea head coach in the next 24 hours, according to Sky in Italy.

 Yes please.

I am one of the few person who have supported Sarri throughout the year but if he want to leave, it is better to do it early than later. 

And please sign a good manager, none of this Lampard bs 

It is madness if bring a rookie Manager for us. Lampard need to  prove himself out there first and get more experience then he can comeback to Chelsea anytime

 

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14 minutes ago, the wes said:

According to reports Chelsea are waiting to hire a new manager before they let sarri go 

And just been reading allegedly the heirarchy are trying to get him to stay.

Yet another fucking mess, said it many times we lurch for one fuck up to another, time after time.

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2 minutes ago, bigbluewillie said:

And just been reading allegedly the heirarchy are trying to get him to stay.

Yet another fucking mess, said it many times we lurch for one fuck up to another, time after time.

The thing that cracks me up about our club when manager don't have a good season at the club they get sacked when marina fucks up things Roman continues to support the iron lady instead off replacing her :middlefinger: 

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I am far from convinced of Lampard as I have stated numerous times, but the more I hear of Allegri, Marcos Silva, Rafa, Mourinho, etc. I am hoping on the Lampard fast, Ten Hag is the best name we have been linked with, and that has been very little.

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1 hour ago, Clockwork said:

I am far from convinced of Lampard as I have stated numerous times, but the more I hear of Allegri, Marcos Silva, Rafa, Mourinho, etc. I am hoping on the Lampard fast, Ten Hag is the best name we have been linked with, and that has been very little.

I feel that Ten Haag would fail spectacularly just as Bosch did at BVB. We would collapse defensively. I think Allegri is the only way we can win things in the next few years. With Hazard gone we have basically a mid-table squad with luxurious depth. Our only world class player is Kante with Kepa and Rüdiger coming closest, all more defensvie than offensive players. So IMO our new manager should know how to build a team around a defensive foundation. Allegri does.

When Conte came here we ripped up the league without major spending and with inferior squads compard to the Manc teams. We did so because his tactics here caught the league on the wrong foot and once they adapted we were out of reach. Now without the quality of Costa and hazard, the only way i see us reaching top 4 is grinding out results. Allegri managed to teach Juve 3 different formations in no time. If he can recreate that here, i think we have a chance to reach top 4 adn win the odd cup. If ofc our objective is to transform into this bullshit posession football philosophy then he might not be the right man. But neither is Lampard or Ten haag. Lampard is out of his depth given the situation. Even if he will be given time and no title objectives, he might very well lose the players with all the rotten illoyal guys we still have at the club and can not get rid of. You can not transform the identity of a club without buying and selling players. If this is really what we want then prepare to suffer, because continuing Sarris work here wil make us uncompetitive for years. Now, we still have time to revert ot what we are good at.

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