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Special Juan

Sarri But Not Sarri Thread

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22 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Appointing Cech barely signals a change in direction, we didnt replace Emenalo who was basically sporting director, didnt manage to get Campos or Monchi in who were previously linked (even then who knows did we even go for them?) so I would hardly say appointing Cech is a massive change. Its a position that has needed filled since Emenalo left clearly based on some of the dross weve signed over the years.

Just because the club wants to do what the likes of other clubs have been doing for years, keep integrating ex players and club legends into its running in some capacity its barely anything revelutionary or cutting edge, clubs have been doing it for years. Even then we have got ex players and have had them involved in some capacity: Jody Morris, Carlo Cudicini, Paulo Ferreira, Henrique Hilario, Joe Cole, Tore Andre Flo, Gianfranco Zola, Andy Myers off the top of my head all involved in different capacities at the club. Its hardly a signal of change is it when weve been doing it before across the board?

Cech is supposedly the first of many, so it's clearly a step in the right direction judging on what's gone before it. The names you mentioned haven't held notable positions from what I know and they didn't have much say, if any, about the running of the club.

1 hour ago, coolhead23 said:

The problem with the next manager is that we only have 2 LBs to chose from ... Emerson or Alonso so who ever shows more determination will be picked it is as simple as that. There is no different tune here, these are the only notes we have access to. 

We have more than two LB's at the club.

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22 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Not at all....im not saying should he fuck up time and time again ala Sarri that he should get a free pass just cuz he is Lamps, no way. But if we see some progress, fight and desire then hey it is what it is. No one gets afree pass in Chels but doesnt mean we are ultra blind and ungrateful.

And what makes you think there's going to be progress, fight and desire from Lampard's Chelsea? Once Ole's honeymoon period was over, he had 4 out of 6 losses (the other two were draws) the worst United run in decades (yes, he did worse than Moyes).

Real sacked their ex-players of Benitez, Solari and Lopetegui in a season (or less!) because of poor management. And they had the likes of Ronaldo, Bale, Ramos etc!

Pep, Enrique and Zidane did well because they had WC players and were able to get the best out of them. You back these coaches with cash, and they'll most likely deliver (definitely with Pep anyway).

Lampard will not be backed with the transfer ban in place. 

He is throwing himself in to the deep end if he takes this job. He needs at least THREE class players (especially one in that defense). He works around them with his own system and then adds in youth.

He won't be able to do that, and we are relying on fecking Luiz to command the defense.

This is a big project, and because of this ban the project can't really begin. And Lampard will get the boot if he fails.

The club isn't ready for Lampard. You think I'm anti-Lampard, but I'm not. I'm protecting him from the disaster. Let the club get the right players first.

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Who else do we have currently as LB?

Baba Rahman & Jay Dasilva, to name two.

 

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51 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

Cech is supposedly the first of many, so it's clearly a step in the right direction judging on what's gone before it. The names you mentioned haven't held notable positions from what I know and they didn't have much say, if any, about the running of the club.

We have more than two LB's at the club.

Sporting director is barely running the club 🤣 If it was CEO or his position was on the board etc yes I would agree but sporting director is just a sporting director. He may he involved with potential signings (although again theres been a rumor he isnt going to have a complete say regarding transfers still) and a link with the manager and Marina but still hes hardly gonna have a colossal influence. We do need restructuring again but we need people who know what their doing, regardless of who they are.

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11 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Sporting director is barely running the club 🤣 If it was CEO or his position was on the board etc yes I would agree but sporting director is just a sporting director. He may he involved with potential signings (although again theres been a rumor he isnt going to have a complete say regarding transfers still) and a link with the manager and Marina but still hes hardly gonna have a colossal influence. We do need restructuring again but we need people who know what their doing, regardless of who they are.

Is signing players not part of running a club or do we catch them with Poke balls? -_-

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37 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

So.. We just wait for Juve? What if they go for another manager? I mean.. either we BACK or we SACK. No fucking point in keeping the squad and fans in the dark. 

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1 hour ago, Jason said:

 

not buying that. range of names is to throw the media.

 

IMO they are simply waiting on Sarri's release.  Too much noise about him agreeing terms.  The way the Italian media are all over it, i am certain its sarri

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Allegri would be a terrible hire, he is the coach you would want if you have a constructed team in place. Like Juventus or at the start of his tenure at Milan. Hiring him for a rebuild, a transfer ban, dependence on playing youths would be incredibly unwise. Allegri almost got Milan relegated in his final year, and that squad was much better than the current Milan team. 

I simply cannot emphasize enough how bad his hiring would be. 

 

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1 hour ago, LAM09 said:

Is signing players not part of running a club or do we catch them with Poke balls? -_-

Part of running the club but hardly a huge thing in the overall scheme of things. Theres much more to a football club than just the footballing aspects. Even then a sporting director is a pointless position if the manager wants to deal with transfers. Hardly a huge sign of change is it if we change manager and get someone who wants to pick his own targets?

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Part of running the club but hardly a huge thing in the overall scheme of things. Theres much more to a football club than just the footballing aspects. Even then a sporting director is a pointless position if the manager wants to deal with transfers. Hardly a huge sign of change is it if we change manager and get someone who wants to pick his own targets?
When was the last time a manager ws given the luxury of picking his own targets?

I'd prefer Cech to be involved in potential transfers than someone that hasn't a clue about the game.

Anyway, let's get back to the topic at hand.

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I just keep asking myself: if the club is looking at different names, how in the hell the press know who is the "leading" candidate? 

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54 minutes ago, Henrique said:

I just keep asking myself: if the club is looking at different names, how in the hell the press know who is the "leading" candidate? 

they probably arent looking at different names (if you mean juve) they have chosen Sarri IMO but cant do anything more until we release him.  Saying "range of names" is a generic response

 

If you mean us, then im still sure its Lampard

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3 hours ago, Mana said:

And what makes you think there's going to be progress, fight and desire from Lampard's Chelsea? Once Ole's honeymoon period was over, he had 4 out of 6 losses (the other two were draws) the worst United run in decades (yes, he did worse than Moyes).

Real sacked their ex-players of Benitez, Solari and Lopetegui in a season (or less!) because of poor management. And they had the likes of Ronaldo, Bale, Ramos etc!

Pep, Enrique and Zidane did well because they had WC players and were able to get the best out of them. You back these coaches with cash, and they'll most likely deliver (definitely with Pep anyway).

Lampard will not be backed with the transfer ban in place. 

He is throwing himself in to the deep end if he takes this job. He needs at least THREE class players (especially one in that defense). He works around them with his own system and then adds in youth.

He won't be able to do that, and we are relying on fecking Luiz to command the defense.

This is a big project, and because of this ban the project can't really begin. And Lampard will get the boot if he fails.

The club isn't ready for Lampard. You think I'm anti-Lampard, but I'm not. I'm protecting him from the disaster. Let the club get the right players first.

Ohh im not disagreeing with you.....I too dont think Lamps is ready. But as I said earlier it is what it is, me and you have zero power who comes in or not. I really believe we can get Simone if we push for it.....I would love that, he would get us instantly. Allegry I would like too.....with this ban we have 2 options: Get Lamps, let him do his shit, blood the youth in etc and see where we go. Or we go with the 2 I mentioned and see out this ban while still be hard to defeat and get that solid Chels back, yeah some call it boring pragtimism, but I for one dont.....and then back the man once the ban is lifted.

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3 hours ago, the wes said:

 

Juve fans will VISCIOUSLY turn on him if he bombs. He thinks our punters were bad?? Lolol.

He ain't seen nothing yet.

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