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Christian Pulisic

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On ‎29‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 3:28 PM, Thor said:

If this is the level of player we are going for, I would rather get Adama Traore. 

More talented, quicker, and he has at least been improving unlike Pulisic. His end product has been getting better, while Pulisic has been demoted to the bench. 

I was listening to Wolves fans last night talking about their opinion that Traore should not start for their club. (He hasn't been starting, but he did yesterday.)

It reminded me of a conversation I had with someone on here who accused me of foolishly commenting about Traore when I had never seen him play in the Premier League. Not withstanding that I had in fact seen Traore play top flight football, you can tell what a player's attributes are wherever you watch him. I stick to what I said then; Traore is not good enough for Chelsea. I'd have thought that his struggles to get in the Wolves team would be even more evidence of that fact.

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I hope people are not seriously suggesting Adama Traore. We often complain about Willian's football IQ (or lack thereof) but in comparison to Traore he is like prime Zidane. Traore is nowhere near good enough for top6 clubs.
He's not even good enough to be a regular for a newly promoted side.

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1 hour ago, the wes said:

I like this kid Pulisic he as the potential to be a good player and to get him at rumoured £45m is a bargain in today's transfer market he reminds me of overmars the way he dribbles past players 

He dribbles and then nothing.

There is alot of development that he needs.

Sure he might be superstar one day. There is no denying he has the talent.

BUT is he realy going to get those chances here? We truly suck with youth and as soon he doesnt perform to expectations, there will be pressure. The club isnt patient and they will not let him develop in peace.

IMO we need already established player, someone who is ready to jump to bigger club, like Hazard was in 2012.

If we get starter AND Pulisic, then it would make sense.

But there is also CHO. Why the hell not just develop CHO instead of Pulisic? Here comes the idiotic board again with their stupid ideas and then they fuck it all up. Kdb and Salah doing wonders while we favoured Willian and Oscar. 

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12 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

He dribbles and then nothing.

There is alot of development that he needs.

Sure he might be superstar one day. There is no denying he has the talent.

BUT is he realy going to get those chances here? We truly suck with youth and as soon he doesnt perform to expectations, there will be pressure. The club isnt patient and they will not let him develop in peace.

IMO we need already established player, someone who is ready to jump to bigger club, like Hazard was in 2012.

If we get starter AND Pulisic, then it would make sense.

But there is also CHO. Why the hell not just develop CHO instead of Pulisic? Here comes the idiotic board again with their stupid ideas and then they fuck it all up. Kdb and Salah doing wonders while we favoured Willian and Oscar. 

People do realize that we going after Pulisic is not because we are gonna (or might?) sell CHO, right? We have been interested in Pulisic for some time now. The interest hasn't just come from nowhere. Plus, they don't even play in the same position.

If anything, it's Willian and Pedro that need to be sold or phased out for new, young players to take their place in the team.

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1 hour ago, Jason said:

People do realize that we going after Pulisic is not because we are gonna (or might?) sell CHO, right? We have been interested in Pulisic for some time now. The interest hasn't just come from nowhere. Plus. they don't even play in the same positions.

If anything, it's Willian and Pedro that need to be sold or phased out for new, young players to take their place in the team.

Exactly. Everybody going crazy over Pulisic being CHO's replacement but CHO is a LW and Pulisic is a RW. Besides, I really don't understand why people are soo against Pulisic coming here. He isn't half as bad as some are making him out to be.

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5 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

He dribbles and then nothing.

There is alot of development that he needs.

Sure he might be superstar one day. There is no denying he has the talent.

BUT is he realy going to get those chances here? We truly suck with youth and as soon he doesnt perform to expectations, there will be pressure. The club isnt patient and they will not let him develop in peace.

IMO we need already established player, someone who is ready to jump to bigger club, like Hazard was in 2012.

If we get starter AND Pulisic, then it would make sense.

But there is also CHO. Why the hell not just develop CHO instead of Pulisic? Here comes the idiotic board again with their stupid ideas and then they fuck it all up. Kdb and Salah doing wonders while we favoured Willian and Oscar. 

Sounds exactly like Hudson-Odoi. I like him too and want to see him play more, but I think sometimes there's a bit too much hysteria with the youth players. I myself am guilty of falling into the trap of hyping up a player, they go on loan and then don't improve. The only player who continually seems to impress me and I think will be a very good player is Tammy. I really do think he'll be a top player in a few seasons. He continues to impress me with his hunger and desire during games to score. I love that about him, he doesn't give up. Unfortunately, he's too good for the Championship, but needs developing to be a PL star. He's between a rock and a hard place at the moment.

Hudson-Odoi needs games sure, but I think the overhyping needs to be brought back a bit. It's not like he's imposing himself that much in games that it's blatantly obvious he'll be a world beater or anything. At the moment, he's a young kid with potential. Playing against low level opposition in the Europa league and having an above average game is nothing to suggest he'll do big things. It's odd how many of our fans seem to have a crystal ball into the future and can see Hudson-Odoi cementing a first team place or replacing Hazard in the side. Right now it's too early to tell.

We have had some very talented youth players come through and look just as impressive, but they've gone on to look mediocre at Championship level. By all accounts, Rashford wasn't one of the best youth players at Utd's academy and certainly didn't stand out much, but now look at him. Sometimes it's not always the most impressive players who end up making it at the top level. Harry Kane is another example of that. Average and even unsuccessful loan spells, didn't look great, but came back to Spurs and now is one of the best strikers in Europe. You just can't predict every player who will make it and anybody who says otherwise is lying. 

Also, Musonda. Need I say more. One of the most talented youth players we've had, but now he's a no name. Hasn't lived up to his hype. Can we seriously say Hudson-Odoi is that much better than Charly? I can't confidently say so, no. 

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29 minutes ago, It's too big said:

Can we seriously say Hudson-Odoi is that much better than Charly? I can't confidently say so, no. 

I confidently disagree. CHO is obviously better than Charly. CM was overrated from day dot. He has great feet but not only does he have the physical presence of a pencil, he just doesn't have the footballing brain needed to play at the highest level. CHO does. I have seen him playing sexy passes in behind the defensive lines and he bruns past defenders asif they aren't even there. He has an eye for a cross and can put the ball in the back of the net. He could work on his shooting tbf but comon... he literally took the piss out of the youth league. It was too easy for him. When is he meant to step up??? I swear in modern football they put too much pressure on the young players to make some sort of an imaginary jump from youth to senior footy. Just give him the ball and let him do his thing... and you will see just how good he is. Let him grow on the pitch.. his very mimimal contribution would eclipse Willians best performances. No joke.

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9 hours ago, DDA said:

Exactly. Everybody going crazy over Pulisic being CHO's replacement but CHO is a LW and Pulisic is a RW. Besides, I really don't understand why people are soo against Pulisic coming here. He isn't half as bad as some are making him out to be.

Poor lad. Hasn't even joined us and already getting hammered from all directions because he's been assumed as CHO's or Hazard's replacement.

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2 minutes ago, Jason said:

Poor lad. Hasn't even joined us and already getting hammered from all directions because he's been assumed as CHO's or Hazard's replacement.

Typical isnt it 😂

 

would be good to see folk willing to give him a chance if we do get him... undoubtly a talented player. 

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1 minute ago, OneMoSalah said:

Typical isnt it 😂

 

would be good to see folk willing to give him a chance if we do get him... undoubtly a talented player. 

It's stupid. People keep bashing him because he's not CHO or Hazard.

How come no one talk Pulisic as Willian's replacement or even Pedro's? Both of their contracts are until June 2020. Pedro will be 32 next year, no guarantee we are gonna extend his contract again. Same applies for Willian, who turns 31 next year. 

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Just now, Jason said:

It's stupid. People keep bashing him because he's not CHO or Hazard.

How come no one talk Pulisic as Willian's replacement or even Pedro's? Both of their contracts are until June 2020. Pedro will be 32 next year, no guarantee we are gonna extend his contract again. Same applies for Willian, who turns 31 next year. 

Regarding CHO, Id only be concerned if he was actually a regular feature yes but hes not and probably will be off in Jan or the summer anyways. And your right, Pulisic is a RW player more than left wing, Willian and Pedro should be more concerned.

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7 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Regarding CHO, Id only be concerned if he was actually a regular feature yes but hes not and probably will be off in Jan or the summer anyways. And your right, Pulisic is a RW player more than left wing, Willian and Pedro should be more concerned.

If we are smart, we would bin Willian this summer. But we likely won't. :rant:

We seriously need a Director of Football...

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1 hour ago, Jason said:

If we are smart, we would bin Willian this summer. But we likely won't. :rant:

We seriously need a Director of Football...

If Pulisic or Lozano come in i think one of Willian or Pedro will go, unfortunately it will probably be the latter. 

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