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Jason

Ross Barkley

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36 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I am (and have been) a member of the 'he probably is ruined for years or maybe for good due to a horrific Achilles tear' crew

same for CHO

and I called Emerson years ago

he never recovered from his horrific knee injury at Roma

we bought damaged goods

I doubt we will ever see the best of RLC again, I dont see it.

Sell Ross and Jorgo, buy Kai and Partey. Instant improvement. That would give us Kante Mount Kova Billy Kai and Partey for midfield.

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5 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

I doubt we will ever see the best of RLC again, I dont see it.

Sell Ross and Jorgo, buy Kai and Partey. Instant improvement. That would give us Kante Mount Kova Billy Kai and Partey for midfield.

as for DMF

I dont see any links between us and Thomas

all I see is Declan (and that is supposedly as a CB)

long ago Boubakary Soumaré

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as for DMF
I dont see any links between us and Thomas
all I see is Declan (and that is supposedly as a CB)
long ago Boubakary Soumaré
How good is Rice technically?

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Everyone on here knows and has said that Barkley is not good enough. Obvioulsy Lamps has a soft spot for Barkley and Mount so they are playing. Also because they are English and they understand him better than our other midfielders. But whilst Mount has at least some promise with his energy and would probably be a decent addition for a team that is already completed, he clearly has not the talent to carry our midfield which he currently is asked to do. Barkley on the other hand just is superfluous. He may be a good soldier who does what  is asked of him to the best of his ability. Its just his ability is not there. He used to be an interesting talent back in his first 3 years at Everton when he would drive at defenders with pace and shoot from ourtrageous distance. Teams just couldnt deal with him. But this does not work vs parked buses. And as he matured he got positionally more disciplined he completely erased his natural attacking instincts to become the personified mediocrity he is now. He just relegated himself to be a complete redundancy. You can't blame him for trying to develop into a better player. Boy has he tried. He always wants the ball, always tries to work something hard, works hard in training from what i have read but he just does not cut it. Again, in a world where he could just drive through midfield keep his head down and shoot he would be perfect. But he neither has the talent nor the football intelligence to develop himself into what we need. It is foolish to insist on playing him. Today we did not really have other options... but even Lamps should have see the light now.

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23 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

How good is Rice technically?

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quite good from all I see have seen him over the years

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quite good from all I see have seen him over the years

How much do you think he is going to cost? I read that West Ham want 70 mio pounds

 

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You all here want Barkley out but only a week ago that Lampard was praising him to the heavens...

https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/lampard-first-class-barkley-dedicated-to-chelsea-cause/16mm4uppw1iaj13fn791r5d8g8

"I don’t think it is a new level for Ross. I played with him for England and against him. He has got great quality and I knew that. I think what he is doing is he is playing a very complete role," Lampard told reporters on Zoom at Stamford Bridge.

"His work rate, for instance, is great, recovering, jumping out to defend at times from midfield areas. Obviously, he always has that goal threat with his technical qualities: right and left foot, great strikes. I have seen that and Ross has been absolutely dedicated to the cause.

"In lockdown, just before lockdown against Everton and Liverpool. I am delighted with him and he just needs to keep those levels. There is more to come, there is more to come and his attitude has been first class.

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47 minutes ago, Jason said:

You all here want Barkley out but only a week ago that Lampard was praising him to the heavens...

https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/lampard-first-class-barkley-dedicated-to-chelsea-cause/16mm4uppw1iaj13fn791r5d8g8

 

 

He is a goal threat... left foot... right foot... bla bla bla, he has scored 1 fucking PL goal this season. Okay he has 4 in the cups but 2 of them were against Grimsby and Forrest. The other two Liverpool and Leicester. 
 

He may be a ‘great soldier’ or show a good attitude but you need other things to be a top player at a top end club. 

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Lampard needs to disassociate from all of the superfluous bullshit he uses as an excuse to have him in the team; '''he's great in training, he's a great attitude'' etc. and look at the shit performances when he is on the pitch. Lampard also has to be biased cause he is an English lad, I can't see anything else logical. 

Simply put, Everton's leftovers are not good enough for Chelsea Football Club. 

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1 hour ago, Jason said:

You all here want Barkley out but only a week ago that Lampard was praising him to the heavens...

https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/lampard-first-class-barkley-dedicated-to-chelsea-cause/16mm4uppw1iaj13fn791r5d8g8

 

 

I am starting to think Lampard is full of shit

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30 minutes ago, The Mak said:

Lampard needs to disassociate from all of the superfluous bullshit he uses as an excuse to have him in the team; '''he's great in training, he's a great attitude'' etc. and look at the shit performances when he is on the pitch. Lampard also has to be biased cause he is an English lad, I can't see anything else logical. 

Simply put, Everton's leftovers are not good enough for Chelsea Football Club. 

yep

It is pretty simple to see that a turd is a turd when it is on the grass

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1 hour ago, killer1257 said:

How much do you think he is going to cost? I read that West Ham want 70 mio pounds

 

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I think £55m or so would prise him away, £60m max

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Not on the bench for two games now? 

Frank rated him highly before. He was MOTM against Pool in cup for example... He is leaving I guess...

 

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Just now, NikkiCFC said:

Not on the bench for two games now? 

Frank rated him highly before. He was MOTM against Pool in cup for example... He is leaving I guess...

 

Good that...with him Willian Jorginho Alonso Emerson Rudiger Zouma Kepa we ainy getting anywhere as a team...

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Apparently he was ill for last two games.

Nobody gives a fuck it seems?

I think he can be our x factor in the next 2 games.

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Barkley has been quite useful for us but also you can tell he's not good enough for the level Chelsea would like to play at. I think we should try at use him in the deal for Rice.

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14 hours ago, Kajo said:

Barkley has been quite useful for us but also you can tell he's not good enough for the level Chelsea would like to play at. I think we should try at use him in the deal for Rice.

Bats + Barkley + £20m

done and dusted

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3 hours ago, Vesper said:

Bats + Barkley + £20m

done and dusted

Right but it's up to the players. Didn't Batshuayi reject a move there recently? 

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