test

Welcome to Talk Chelsea

Register now to gain access to all of our features. Once registered and logged in, you will be able to contribute to this site by submitting your own content or replying to existing content. You'll be able to customize your profile, receive reputation points as a reward for submitting content, while also communicating with other members via your own private inbox, plus much more! This message will be removed once you have signed in.

Special Juan

7. N'Golo Kante

Started by Special Juan,

1,705 posts in this topic
24 minutes ago, mccg said:

N'Golo Kante and Jorginho the answer for Chelsea, says Danny Higginbotham

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/11566729/kante-jorginho-together-could-work

Makes sense to me , nice 1 Mr Bottom , hope Sarri takes note

So he is saying a 4 2 1 3? Sarri wont do it. At least he has always refused to do it. Barkley would truly have to be a beast then too. Obviously Isco or Kai Havertz or another truly WC AMF would make it far more potent.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 minutes ago, whats happening said:

it kinda sucks that our manager is not flexible at all. no plan b

 Not going to lie, posts like this are slightly embarrassing. People wanted a change in style from Conte. We got one with Sarri. It's not perfect but if he wants to build a team in his image he needs to do it, no point half arsing it. Did Pep have a plan B? Did Klopp? No they play there way and that's it. Conte had a plan B, lump it long to Giroud/Morata but apparently that was outdated and we should be playing attacking football, now we have a manager who's trying to do that and now he's not flexible enough.. some of you guys never cease to amaze me. It's a process. Takes time. Few players need replaced. Give the guy a chance. Swear some folk just cause a stir because they've fuck all else to do.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

idk if you are serious or not but pep uses different lineups and formations every few games, especially last season and the season before. klopp has changed his style this season from the tactics he had last season. it's pretty obvious.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Kante will never shine in a possession-based team. Leicester and pre-Sarri Chelsea played a completely different game. Same with France.

I do think he will get better though. This is a significant change for him and he hasn't been terrible. He'll be better next season.

OneMoSalah and El P. like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

 Not going to lie, posts like this are slightly embarrassing. People wanted a change in style from Conte. We got one with Sarri. It's not perfect but if he wants to build a team in his image he needs to do it, no point half arsing it. Did Pep have a plan B? Did Klopp? No they play there way and that's it. Conte had a plan B, lump it long to Giroud/Morata but apparently that was outdated and we should be playing attacking football, now we have a manager who's trying to do that and now he's not flexible enough.. some of you guys never cease to amaze me. It's a process. Takes time. Few players need replaced. Give the guy a chance. Swear some folk just cause a stir because they've fuck all else to do.

 

Luiz and Willian cannot be in plan A, B, C, D,....  they are breathtakingly shit

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, whats happening said:

idk if you are serious or not but pep uses different lineups and formations every few games, especially last season and the season before. klopp has changed his style this season from the tactics he had last season. it's pretty obvious.

 

But the way of playing is the same, 433, 4141, 352, 4231, the way of playing doesn't change, there's no compromise in his principles (since Barcelona he has been stubborn with this possession based philosophy, insistent that his teams will play any other way). Same with Jurgen Klopp who's teams have always played a high intensity high pressure football where they press and are so fast in transitions (originates from his time at Mainz). The formation doesnt mean anything in particular because its the style thats important. They don't change their philosophy because they believe that is the right way for their teams to play. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
12 hours ago, whats happening said:

it kinda sucks that our manager is not flexible at all. no plan b

Yeah its happened to other managers here too ...and we all know how that pans out ! Lets hope either we bring in suitable improvements or the ex banker becomes more flexible to reap the rewards!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

We expect too much because of our results in last two months... These are still our first few months of attacking/possession football after years of defending and counter attacking. Guardiola hardly managed to reach TOP 4 in his first season with City and with probably better team than ours. We played a great game against Liverpool and Arsenal, had a great run without defeat and after first loss there is already panic among our fans... Calm the f*ck down please! 

Sarri has a philosophy, it is the right thing to stick with it! You can't learn attacking football in three months, we will need more than that, maybe even more than one season and few new players (right ones).

Kante is a great player but I am afraid that he is a great player in certain system. System that was played under Ranieri, Conte and in system that is played in France - counter attacking. His passing under pressure is not good, so we would suffer with him as defensive midfielder if we want to play the ball out of the defence. 

OneMoSalah likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Lol, like changing to 4-2-3-1 would magically make Kante world beater.

People are acting like Kante is second coming of Frank Rijkaard. Being it in 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 Kante is just not so important anymore to us. Even in 4-2-3-1 Kante would hold his side (right), and Jorginho his side (left). Only thing that was different before was that Kante had Matić or Drinkwater by his side, and they held their field sides decently... Jorginho can't do that, and there would STILL be defensive lapses. Not to mention that in Contes era Kante had 3 defenders behind him.

In this setup/style Kante can't do it all, like most of you want... you can use whichever formation you want. Kante is everywhere, you say? It's much easier to be "everywhere" when you have so many defensive players in your team who could help you out and cover some ground. Stop f**king overrating him that much, he IS NOT our problem.

I am baffled that people are still talking about Kante, when it's clear that our main problems are out-of-form Kovačić and shit RW and CF, of course with average LB and LCB.

Gone are the days when we would win 1-0 on our bad days. Now it should be 3-2, with this setup.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

No praise for him yesterday then? Showed exactly what he can offer in that role in the second half, excellent second half performance. If he plays like this more often in the same role it will be justified moving him in my eyes. This is what Sarri wants from him, he was the right distance away with the ball and without the ball. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I love the Wee Baldy Man

Chelsea prepare for League Cup quarter-final against Bournemouth with joker in the pack as N'Golo Kante admits: 'My national team-mates have called me a cards cheat'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6508829/Chelsea-prepare-League-Cup-quarter-final-against-Bournemouth-joker-pack-NGolo-Kante.html

Good to see the lads all with smiles on their faces - even RLC

Vesper likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.