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Special Juan

The Conte Thread

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11 days, 3 hours & 25 minutes until the British transfer window closes. I seriously hope the club has seen how we've, yet again, conceded and our manager is crying for them to sign a centreback. Be it Koulibaly or whoever, they need to get moving on Monday otherwise we're seriously underestimating how hard the forthcoming season is actually going to be. 

Offensively I don't really have a problem, even if we don't sign James Rodriguez or Lukaku. Between Hazard finding his feet, Costa seeming like he's up for scoring and Willian just being Willian we can score. Not to mention fringe players such as Cesc showing what he can do today, Pedro found himself a goal last week too so we're not completely swimming blind. 

Our weaknesses are far too obvious for any competent opposing manager though. How we begin another season with Ivanovic, who I'll admit played decent last week, who was shocking today I still can not understand. Both he and Cahill were equally liable today for the goal. I can understand Ivanovic not having the pace anymore, he didn't get any crosses in today and was helpeless to prevent them. However what sets him apart from Terry is how weak he is in a positional format, Terry is second to none in being in the right place at the right time - A trait Cahill and Ivanovic have not learned. Zouma, please return soon!

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5 hours ago, Adnane said:

Personally believe you got a bit carried away there Barbara.

although the TV showed a yellow for Britos for that tackle on Hazard in the first, it looks like they got carried away about it and it doesn't exist.

Everything else I stand by my words. With the pre-season Aina showed, why is Iva still there?

Explain what was Matic role today? He wasn't the DM - that was Kante. He wasn't the B2B, Kante did some of that and so did Oscar. The moment he was subbed off it felt like we had one more player, although we still had 11 players. 

I said in one of the posts I understand Conte is new at the league and by that I meant he's probably trying to get the gist of it, and being more cautious, but he must be bolder in the future if we are aiming anything and I hope/think he will. It just I don't like to look like that kind of person that pretends everything is perfect when results are coming and then go from heaven to hell when the slightest thing goes wrong.

Playing Iva will bite him in the ass eventually. There's no other way around it. We don't have creative players, Hazard is very talented, but not that much creative. If he continues to have Matic playing nothing, someday we won't have Costa scoring the winners (he might even be suspended lol).

I just wanted to address that while I'm thankful for what he has merit, he also has a few problems to fix. Pointing those problems won't take away from him.

I agree being carried away about not watching Chelsea. I can't stand see Iva's name in the lineup, but I wish I would  be detached enough to stop watching. I won't... unfortunately because I get way fed up and riled up watching him.

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Watching Burnley play Liverpool today gives me a bit of a headache thinking about how Antonio should set up against them when they come here next weekend.

Burnley played two banks of four behind the ball and restricted Liverpool too long shots, we are almost certainly going to face that, so in theory Cesc and Bats in the Xl and reverting to 4-4-2 is the most logical choice but on the flip side Burnley countered really well when they had the ball so that could be a serious problem with our defense and only Kante to protect them.

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I know its early and hes made some selections thats druven me crazy but I love this guy. You can totaly understand how his players get close to him.

I'm just watint to play in North London and he goes diving into the home dugout by accident to celebrate Costa scoring from a Cescy assist! Would give vinegar tits a stroke!

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Too early to make big conclusions but at least it looks like we have got back this ability of turning the games to wins in the last minutes. For many years I think we haven't been very good in that sense. Scoring a late winner is maybe the best feeling in football, but of course it would be nice to seal games also in the earlier stage.

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9 minutes ago, CurlyHairLikeLuiz said:

Sicuramente sa ora che il 4-4-2 è il nostro migliore formazione per il futuro. Certo, le ali possono essere giocato con un po 'di più, ma che deve essere la nostra base.

in my opinion 4-3-3 is still good! just put off costa and one between oscar and matic and put on fabregas and Batua

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Can I start by saying how happy I am we appointed this man. I just like the charisma he has, the passion he brings with him and the tactical estute he also has. 

Yes he started the same line up and Mazzari, knowing Antonio's style counter played it by exploiting our weak full backs. Oscar had an off game, which he didn't have vs WH, same as Matic. But his substites came at a perfect time. He wanted to try and penetrate them first with Moses, they were still compact, so he waited on them being perfectly tired so he brought on the physical and pacey presence in Michy and Fabregas to supply and control the game. He knows when and how. This is not me overrating, well maybe a bit, but fuck me, if this was Jose he'd have brought in Chalobah, Ruben and Michy so that we can pump long balls forwards hoping we get an equaliser, Conte grabbed the game by the fucking balls knowing we had nothing to lose. He's making that team get together and if he succeeds, he'll be here, hopefully, for the long. 

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Not so sure about the reason why Conte want to make everyone know that we desperately need to sign defenders? Maybe to turn someone's head around (Koulibaly)?

Now every club will set even higher price for every defender we are after.

 

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Despite being absolutely delighted about our two last minute wins, I fear that those are the type of oppositions we should sweeps aside with the quality we have. So, while heralding Conte's ability to instill fighting spirit into the team this early on, we should address why we made such hard work of it in the first place. IMO we still do not have the mechanisms to breakoppositions down quickly enough. Only few teams have the technical tools to dominate an opponent throughout the whole match and score after minutes of posession and dozens of passes. We certainly do not belong to that group. Consequently, we should focus on a more direct build up play from midfield instead of relying on our wingers to carry the ball out of our own third  as they have to in most cases. I am sure having Cesc rejoin the starting XI will remedy some of those issued but I am not convinced it will suffice.

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On 8/20/2016 at 5:27 PM, Barbara said:

Explain what was Matic role today? He wasn't the DM - that was Kante. He wasn't the B2B, Kante did some of that and so did Oscar. The moment he was subbed off it felt like we had one more player, although we still had 11 players. 

Matic played as a CM. My guess would be he was asked to support attacks and recycle possession. Anyways I don't think every player on the pitch is assigned a ridged tactical deployment, if you look at how Conte used Pogba you would surmise it was a more free role with a commitment to supporting attacking players.

Having said that I really don't think Matic the type of player who flourishes in a freer role, he strikes me as a guy who needs to be given a specific role that can't be complicated. 

I'm starting to think Chalobah may have a part to play this season. If Matic continues to look out of place in the 4-1-4-1 I can envision Nathaniel getting a look in.

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On 8/22/2016 at 5:42 AM, pHaRaOn said:

Antonio Conte,

Does it better,

Makes me happy,

Makes me feel this way.

I just love how perfect our chants have been lately, kudos to those guys there making them up. IMO compared to the last managers we had, indeed he does it better, he makes me happy and he makes me feel this way (whatever way that is, but you know what I mean :P)

I didn't watch the match today, but just seeing Azpili in the RB position as well as Aina in the LB position makes me overlook seeing Iva as a CB or RLC as a striker (I do hope Conte proves me right, but this insistence of playing Ruben as a striker makes no sense in my head, but at least the kid gets to play some minutes so I definitely won't complain).

I was happily surprised by the lineup and hope to catch the match up somewhere, some time.

I read a few posts after mine and I was having trouble multi-quoting, but I think I've made it clear that 1) He's making a few mistakes I feel come with the fact of being new at the league, but at least he's trying to correct them in the matches; 2) Matic played no relevant tactical role against Watford. As a MD, CM, B2B or whatever, not only he was tactically useless, but also had a weak presentation, especially supporting the attack - hence why Cesc's presence changed the game promptly and completely, 3) I am bitter about Ivanovic still being there. I thought it was a blessing in no-frigging-disguise when he got a knock in pre-season and was expected to miss three weeks (barely lost two). So take my comments on him with a  pinch of salt as I'm really bitter and angry about seeing him there, whether he makes a mistake that costs us or not because we all know he's due to making one (or more in one single match) at any given moment.

How did Aina do against Bristols?

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