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Special Juan

The Conte Thread

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17 minutes ago, Jason said:

Allegri in line to replace Conte if he and Inter decide to part ways. :lol: 

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I think if Inter and Conte were to part ways so soon it would be a mistake. On both their behalves. I would say their squad is 3 players off being really competitive and stronger in depth. Allegri would probably walk in there, make a few signings to build on what they have and be able to push Juventus. As Conte would be able to next season IMO.

Personally I do feel with these rumours, it is more a move to get the players to pull the finger out, raise their standards and maybe again, encourage the club to get a couple of more signings in who are at the level that say Lukaku, Hakimi, Sensi, Eriksen and Barella are. I think 4th isnt great but Conte could finish 2nd and still not be completely satisfied either regardless. You wouldn’t necessarily say that Inter have got options upfront if they lose either Lukaku or Lautaro either which obviously makes them predictable at times. If he and Icardi could have turned the tide, he would of been a huge plus for them but his stupid agent/his wife has played an enormous part in fucking that up for a few seasons.

I really think they've taken the foot off the gas since the turn of the year but you look his coaching style, the fact his coaching is hugely effective (as we seen here with no CL his first season) when he can spend as often with the players as possible, perhaps with COVID meaning all football and training was suspended for a period I think that may have taken their eye of the ball a bit. Also with the lineup changes he hasn't made compared to other teams from the article on the previous page, compared to Juventus who’s squad is littered with multiple title winners, world cup winners, CL winners plus Ronaldo, they were never ever going to be able to sustain this for a whole season IMO. Even then it isnt losses that have affected them, they have the same losses as Juventus but have 8 draws, most in top 8 in Serie A, which indicates struggling to finish teams off or keep them out.

If you look at the squad Conte assembled in Turin during his time there he had real depth and players of different characteristics in key positions: in MF and upfront especially. Plus for Inter this season, Stefano Sensi really has been a big big miss for them in the middle of the park. Sanchez hasn't exactly had a fair crack due to injuries but he could have given them another proven, experienced option upfront as well instead of him having to call on those youngsters due to his injury.

Also I think while Young and Moses were obviously short term signings they haven’t necessarily worked in a way he would have hoped (shock, didn't think Moses would suit a slower league regardless as he tends to overcomplicate things when he has time to really think about it as opposed to just doing something naturally in faster paced games where he can maybe get away with it and honestly thought Young would be a rotational player anyway who could be solid enough over there because he has got quality in terms of his delivery). I am also not sure if Godin was or wasn't his signing but he really has struggled when they've played with a back 3.
 

I think if he was to throw the towel in now or if Inter were to consider binning him it would be a mistake. As I said there Inter aren't that far off, next season with the correct signings they will be expected to be close or win Serie A I think. Suppose regardless of coach it will be their ambition and if Hakimi is a sign of the quality of players to arrive, they will be right up there.  

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3 hours ago, Jason said:

Allegri in line to replace Conte if he and Inter decide to part ways. :lol: 

Damn it. He needs to stay. We need to offload emerson 🤭

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Why are there even talks about him leaving so early? They will only grow stronger next season with some additions.

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4 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Why are there even talks about him leaving so early? They will only grow stronger next season with some additions.

https://sempreinter.com/2020/07/11/italian-media-claim-division-between-antonio-conte-parts-of-the-inter-squad/

Usually he waits until he's won the title before he takes the mask off!

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13 minutes ago, Tomo said:

https://sempreinter.com/2020/07/11/italian-media-claim-division-between-antonio-conte-parts-of-the-inter-squad/

Usually he waits until he's won the title before he takes the mask off!

Such a shame he alienates himself at every club he manages. His ego gets the better of him. Obviously has all it takes to be a great manager bar that not so minor detail. I'm not surprised he didn't get on with Jose.

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47 minutes ago, DDA said:

Such a shame he alienates himself at every club he manages. His ego gets the better of him. Obviously has all it takes to be a great manager bar that not so minor detail. I'm not surprised he didn't get on with Jose.

I don't even get why he does it, certainly not to the extent he does anyway.

He's proven he can get no so great sides punching, if he was heavily reliant on a blank cheque you could almost understand it.

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There is some talk half the squad haven't bought fully into his methods due to a lack of trust/confidence (article Tomo posted further up), which is surprisingly odd as I thought Inters players would be desperate to be successful again. Its an odd situation you wouldn't have thought this before the lockdown as they were flying. There is still some deadweight there and regardless of if its Allegri or Conte or anyone theyll probably shift a few if they can to close the gap. If Juve keep Sarri as well they will be closer next season because Juve are aging throughout their squad. He is intense and it would be a shame to see him leave Inter after one season as I said in my other post, they have got huge potential. If they get Tonali on top of Hakimi who has already arrived they will be even stronger again plus Sensi, Barella and Bastoni will be another year older and experienced at a higher level. Youd think those other players would raise their standards to try fight their cases if they believe they are vulnerable and potentially could be offloaded too? Maybe it just sums Inter up though more as a whole, theyve had far too many average players coming in since the last period since Mourinho left. Its a culture and mentality thing they need to change as much as anything imo.

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20 hours ago, Jason said:

Allegri in line to replace Conte if he and Inter decide to part ways. :lol: 

It would be injustice if Alegri again just take team Conte build and take all credit.

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The gap between Juve, Inter after 33 matches since 11-12 season.

11-12: Juve 71 pts, Inter 49: -22

12-13: -24

13-14: -34

14-15: -28

15-16: -18

16-17: -27

17-18: -22

18-19: -26

19-20: -6

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18 minutes ago, 11Drogba said:

The gap between Juve, Inter after 33 matches since 11-12 season.

11-12: Juve 71 pts, Inter 49: -22

12-13: -24

13-14: -34

14-15: -28

15-16: -18

16-17: -27

17-18: -22

18-19: -26

19-20: -6

welcome to sarriball, Juve

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You guys cant imagine how much juve fans hate Sarri, they really dont want him around anymore, they are bored by his style and they cant stand his excuses....they would kill to have Allegri back.

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16 minutes ago, Vesper said:

welcome to sarriball, Juve

I don't like Sarri and I think he shouldn't be coaching teams like Juve and Chelsea, but the difference is lower mostly because of Conte's Inter gained more points.

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1 hour ago, 11Drogba said:

I don't like Sarri and I think he shouldn't be coaching teams like Juve and Chelsea, but the difference is lower mostly because of Conte's Inter gained more points.

Yes, Juve can still finish with 92 points. Conte did solid for the first season.

Btw the other day Juve did not touch the ball for 8 minutes and 11 seconds in Atalanta half.

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9 hours ago, Atomiswave said:

You guys cant imagine how much juve fans hate Sarri, they really dont want him around anymore, they are bored by his style and they cant stand his excuses....they would kill to have Allegri back.

Tbf Juve fans didnt want Allegri at first and only warmed to him after his first season. I don’t expect them to change manager anytime soon particularly when they win Serie A.
 

I think someone like Sarri as he said about when he was in Napoli and also here, he needs a season or whatever to embed the principles of his football and then build on it after. I have seen some of the games and they are very predictable but I think theres been glimpses of what they could do if they keep going down that path and next season, Id imagine it would get better. Plus they have an aging squad, regardless of manager, they need to freshen it up. 

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8 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Tbf Juve fans didnt want Allegri at first and only warmed to him after his first season. I don’t expect them to change manager anytime soon particularly when they win Serie A.
 

I think someone like Sarri as he said about when he was in Napoli and also here, he needs a season or whatever to embed the principles of his football and then build on it after. I have seen some of the games and they are very predictable but I think theres been glimpses of what they could do if they keep going down that path and next season, Id imagine it would get better. Plus they have an aging squad, regardless of manager, they need to freshen it up. 

Yes but with Allegri you could see the effectiveness, players and fans were not bored to death. The only reason they are ahead now is beacause of Ronaldo and that they have a better squad than anyone. Next season im willing to bet the wheels will come off. Yes they def need some players coming in though I hope they crash and burn...if Conte stays I hope he teaches them a lesson next year.

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According to The Athletic we came close to signing Danny Rose for £55m in 2017, three years later he's about to sign for Newcastle for £5m.

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So, Inter finished 2nd in Serie A and then, Conte went and moaned...

https://www.football-italia.net/156686/conte-no-protection-inter

“It has been a tough year on a personal level, very tough. I don’t think the players saw their work recognised, I don’t think I saw my work recognised and we all received very little protection from the club.

“We have to grow and improve in all areas, including off the field, and a big club should protect its players more. We’ll discuss it all at the end of the season, I have to meet the President and he’s in China right now.

“It was very, very intense this year, difficult, and the lads did well to isolate ourselves and create unity within us, despite the difficulties. I don’t like people who get on the bandwagon and I saw a lot of that with Inter this year.

“We had to eat dung for months and got zero protection. My problem is that I have a vision, I see the path we have to take and I know what we need to do. I saw the other day an interview that Luciano Spalletti gave at Inter in 2017. We’re now in 2020 and nothing has changed.

“I can be a lightning rod for the first year, but if you don’t learn and keep making the same mistakes, then that's just crazy. I want to be absolutely clear that I am not talking about the transfer market or the players. I want that to be very clear.”

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