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Special Juan

The Conte Thread

Started by Special Juan,

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6 minutes ago, Henrique said:

He was decent in the clash against Barcelona...but we were facing Barcelona so early in knockout stage because of poor performances against Roma in group stage.

Not to mention the team is now 5th in PL table and with few hope of playing UCL next season, this combined with some of the most embarrassing performances Chelsea produced in years, and with the fact he asked our most important player to leave and replaced him with a guy that watched both games against Barcelona from the bench is more than enough to fire him as soon as possible.

Conte is no more than an ordinary manager. His has a mediocre CV, and there is nothing special in his career so far that can justify giving him one more year. He won things with Juventus in Italy, yes, but winning things with Juventus in Italy in recent years became easier than winning things with Barcelona in Spain. He did a good job with Italy in Euro 16, yes, but winning things at International level (he didn't even win by the way) don't prove anything about what a manager can do at club level.

Time to go Conte. Thanks for the Premier League last season, but its time to move on.

I just read a Conte quote which tells me everything I need to know about him.

When discussing Juventus' Champions League chances, Conte replied: "You can't go to a €100 restaurant with €10." Since Conte left, Juventus have been to the Champions League final twice.

He is Mourinho lite.

 

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2 hours ago, Henrique said:

He was decent in the clash against Barcelona...but we were facing Barcelona so early in knockout stage because of poor performances against Roma in group stage.

To be fair, it wasn't all Conte's fault the Roma game, Courtois must take a huge slice of the blame, letting in soft goals like he did tonight against Barca.

2 hours ago, Henrique said:

Not to mention the team is now 5th in PL table and with few hope of playing UCL next season, this combined with some of the most embarrassing performances Chelsea produced in years, and with the fact he asked our most important player to leave and replaced him with a guy that watched both games against Barcelona from the bench is more than enough to fire him as soon as possible.
 

This is like the umpteenth time you've said this, and you have been corrected umpteenth times. And it's going to happen again. No, Conte didn't force Costa to leave, Costa wanted to leave. Saw that China money and flirted with Atletico...I would have personally kicked Costa also out the door if I was manager.

Why keep a player if he's unhappy at Chelsea FFS.

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And people said this squad is better than the 2011/12 squad FFS. I'll tell you one thing. Cech that season would never let Messi score past him like that.

39 minutes ago, petre.ispirescu said:

For me personally Conte is the right man for the job, but frankly I think he wants to leave more than we want him to stay. I wish that for the first time Chelsea would show the world that they can trust the manager after a poor season and give him another go. But unfortunately we know it won't happen. Just look at United and the differences between the two boards - what Mourinho has done there this season is borderline pathetic. No title challenge and knocked out by the team sitting 5th in Spain and with a worst defensive record that Leganes and Girona, dumped out of League Cup by a Championship side, all this having a squad filled with 90M players and a 600k/pw one. But he will get another season, this is what I am sure of. 

There's one difference you are missing here between Mourinho and Conte. Champions League/Top 4.

Mourinho is almost certain to get top 4 this season, while Conte may not. If Mourinho doesn't get top 4 with no trophies, his neck could be on the line with the money spent.

Still what Jose did is borderline pathetic, but it's not a complete disaster like Chelsea. United will play CL next season, while we are playing Europa.

I guess it's down to the FA Cup though. Although winning the FA Cup will not paper over the cracks.

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11 hours ago, Styles said:

I just read a Conte quote which tells me everything I need to know about him.

When discussing Juventus' Champions League chances, Conte replied: "You can't go to a €100 restaurant with €10." Since Conte left, Juventus have been to the Champions League final twice.

He is Mourinho lite.

 

and lose both of them :Goober:

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He will walk into a top job next season for sure where as we will appoint Luis Enrique or some second rate manager. Exciting times ahead. Pity that it looks so clear that he will go because I think if we could show that sort of performances like the two v Barca and first half of United without individual errors then we would secure top 4 no problem.  

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51 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

He will walk into a top job next season for sure where as we will appoint Luis Enrique or some second rate manager. Exciting times ahead. Pity that it looks so clear that he will go because I think if we could show that sort of performances like the two v Barca and first half of United without individual errors then we would secure top 4 no problem.  

The players won't be motivated to get top 4. Especially when there are signs of Conte leaving us. They will continue to play, but they won't play with their hearts out like last season. It's over.

Sort of wished we had that pre-2017 Wenger luck when they always managed to get top 4.

 

Maybe they will challenge for the FA Cup. Although Conte has a very poor history with cup tournys.

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regarding conte, i love his passion, love the way his teams are usually defensively solid, love his character... but let's not act like he doesn't have his flaws. He never, ever won a single cup as manager, not even a coppa italia when he had by far the best team in italy for 3 years, not even a league cup or fa cup when we were better than all the other top english teams. We lost to an embarrassing arse side in the final ffs... Also, he seems to expect to get *exactly* what he wants from the board in terms of signings or else he sulks, and keeps bringing it up literally every single press conference. I understand he expected to be backed more after his first year success, and arguably should have been, but when that hasn't happened, you should just get on with rather than sulking for months on end. It rubs off badly on the players, the fans, everyone and isn't conducive to success.. the atmosphere among the players for the city game was rock bottom in regards to delivering the most uninspired performance i'd ever seen (or one of) and tbh, i put the blame for that on conte and his constant sulking/emo attitude.

Having said all that, the board has undoubtedly also been at fault as there are rumors conte wanted lukaku and the board twiddled its thumbs towards the end of last season and beginning of summer rather than aggressively going in for him (MU were already talking to him and eventually got him). However the fact that the board didn't want to spend 80M on alex sandro is fully understandably imo.... and conte reportedly wanted players like carroll, crouch, llorente, barnes so he's not exactly the ultimate undisputed transfer market talent identifier either.

All in all, happy we had him, happy for the great joy he gave us last season but will also be happy when we move on from this saga as it seems conte's relationship with the board, the club, the fans, the players will never be the same as last year after all his sulking, emo attitude and uber negative football (v. city especially)

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On 15.3.2018 at 6:59 PM, oldportblue said:

when it's not stuff like this, it's clickbait BS like "find out which chelsea star wants conte out" and when you click on it it's a don balon article about morata with no quotes... TC social media posts are an utter embarrassment to be honest

If that's the way to keep site alive I'm totally okay with it.

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8 minutes ago, Amblève. said:

If that's the way to keep site alive I'm totally okay with it.

It feels like this site doesn't hsve half the users actively posting like it use too.

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1 hour ago, Tomo said:

Doesn't even have a quarter. There was an influx of trolls around 2013 time who were left free to cause havoc on here for months, it frightened away numerous quality posters, most of whom haven't returned to this day and the trolls most likely frightened away potential new members too. 

This place when i joined was genuinely the best forum i have ever visited, today it's unrecognizable to those days.

It's a real shame. I have always liked the way this forum is run. I honestly do think that when the Admins abolished the 'member of the month award', there was a decline in the quality and number of posts from many memebers.

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3 hours ago, DDA said:

It's a real shame. I have always liked the way this forum is run. I honestly do think that when the Admins abolished the 'member of the month award', there was a decline in the quality and number of posts from many memebers.

I respectfully disagree, quality has nothing to do with popularity. Actually, most of the times those two things are opposite, popularity is being determined by how the masses perceive something and masses rarely take into account (or are even aware of) the actual quality of that thing. Especially in our days with the use of the social media, this has become even more evident than ever before, people say/act solely with the purpose of being accepted or liked by as many others as possible without even caring if they are true to themselves.

That "member of the month award" was meaningless imo and if people stopped posting entirely because it was abolished, then we are better off without them for sure. I can show you a million examples of posts made by "unpopular" members being entirely neglected, only to be followed by a post made by a "popular" member some time after, saying exactly the same thing and receiving 10 likes. This of course is always going to happen, with or without an award, but there is no need to turn a football forum into a popularity contest and that is what was happening back then.

 

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5 hours ago, DDA said:

It's a real shame. I have always liked the way this forum is run. I honestly do think that when the Admins abolished the 'member of the month award', there was a decline in the quality and number of posts from many memebers.

One of the reasons or if not, the main reason why it got abolished because people constantly made a big fuss over the winner. If 'Person A' won it, then some members would moan why he/she won it when 'Person B' should have gotten it instead, every single time. Was meant to be a fun thing but it became something people constantly argued over with.

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