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Fulham Broadway

The Mourinho Thread

Started by Fulham Broadway,

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Its often said, never go back and Im starting to think he should not hv come back

Really?

Other than Mourinho, the only managers I would have wanted at Chelsea are: Hiddink or Klopp.

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A winning Chelsea and a losing Chelsea alone seperates the true CFC bluebloods from the fake, pseudo, glory-hunting, know nothing "fans" in need of instant gratification.



The only gripes I have with the legendary manager (Mourinho) is that this season he has failed to integrate Demba Ba into the squad and for some reason, only known to him, has persisted with Torres. I know Torres' style of play and attributes are useful to our attack, especially when we set-up to counter the opposition, but Torres' presence as far as I'm concerned in ANY CFC line-up is as welcome as an asteroid to planet Earth.



My second gripe is that his line-up's have cost us points in the league this season. This team is not good enough to even withstand minor tweaks to it. Something as minor as a change from 4-2-3-1 to 4-3-3 sometimes has catastrophic effects to the way we play. We saw it vs Palace recently, West Ham, Spurs in WHL, vs Basel in the 2nd tie. We almost saw it vs Tottenham in the first half especially. Sometimes, he just needs to put out our best team in our best formation instead of worrying about the opponent's qualities, especially when we play against weaker opposition.




Aside from that, he's been fantastic. What many of these thickos, these fake, pseudo, glory-hunting, know nothing "fans" in need of instant gratification "fans".... What they don't know is this. Chelsea have been a joke in the league for the past two years. We were sixth and then a DISTANT third in the league. Forget the CL we won. It was won solely due to sheer determination of our stalwarts of yesteryear. Giants like DD, Lamps, Cech and so on, willing to die for what had eluded them for a decade.



We came sixth, our lowest finish since 2001. Our defense was sloppy and pathetic. We couldn't see games out. Mourinho fixed that. Just last season (and till January), our squad was terribly imbalanced, with our board for some bizzare reason signing so many attacking midfielders (probably in a bid to play more expansive football?)........Mourinho fixed that. Give me Matic and Salah over Mata and De Bruyne any day. We had lost our never say die spirit. Once the opposition took a strangle-hold in the game, we were done. How many times did we come back from defeat under AVB? Even under Ancelotti in his final months?..........Mourinho fixed that....... Our legendary invincibility at Stamford Bridge??? Gone. Teams like Sunderland and QPR for fucks sake came and turned us over at the Bridge. Now we look unbeatable at home ............Mourinho fixed that. In 2010/2011, we finished with 64 points. In 2011/2012, 75 points. This season, we have 69 points, with 7 matches left. MASSIVE improvements all over!!!!! Only Brendan Rodgers has shown more improvement to a big team in the league this season. But 'Pool don't even play in Europe. We were irrelevant in the CL for fucks sake, a Europa team, now we play in the QF's of the CL without a reliable striker!! Which other team in the CL does that??? Every other team has their scoring machine except us. We should be proud to do be amongst the top 8 teams in the world and to do that without a striker!



How some people just don't (OR won't) understand these simple facts, I will never know. We have Hazard, Oscar, Matic, Willian, Salah, van Ginkel plus the promised elite CF......... Some of the finest young players in the world + a 1000 and 1 reasons to be happy about the future. We have the best young stars in Europe and this next Chelsea team is going to be a beast, mark my words. Even stronger than the previous one was because we never had talent as remarkable as Eden.



It's a season of transition guys. Didier is gone, so is Ballack, Malouda, Kalou, Bosingwa, Cole, Deco, Essien..... Lamps on his last legs.................. So please, put things in perspective and stop with the instant gratification.

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Really?

Other than Mourinho, the only managers I would have wanted at Chelsea are: Hiddink or Klopp.

Guadiola, I would have preferred him to Mourinho to be honest, I love his type of football and he generally gives youth a chance at the same time developing existing players

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Mourinho is overrating every oponent we play against. We have quality squad but he goes extremely defensive in most games. He lost winning mentality that he had before. He never played beautiful football, but got the result in most games. He doesnt have the balls to say we go all out against aston villa or West ham from first minute.

Second problem are our players. No imagination, no balls, no creativity, no consistancy, no determination, motivation, desire, spark whatsoever.

The players dont improve. We bought Schurrle because he was threat from distance. Have you seen him taking long shots here? We bought Willian because he was rick-rolling opponents in Shakhtar. He made the look like fools...even us in CL. Did he do that here? How many times did he dribble past few players and made superb assist for Shakhtar? And how many for Chelsea? Oscar as #10, I have no idea what is the point of him playing there. He is like CM playing high on the pitch and cant make any kind of threat in attack. Wont go in pivot debate, because clearly we need new CM.

Our game has no width, Pastore who is generaly shit player made stunnig run tonight, cant imagine any of our attackers could do that bar Hazard. They dont have balls to do it.

I dont know if its problem in players, or Mourinho, maybe they just need time, but it will be damn important for them to improve come next season. Because at this rate getting someone like Reus isnt that crazy. We cant perform in attack to save our lives and thats terrible. It isnt one game, its been like that for whole season with few very very good games.

We didnt even tried to score in second half. I question what Mou is saying to the players. In the past only win was option for him and he was great motivator, tried risky but efficient subs, something we yet have to see this season.

Im sick of watching us getting bitchslapped every second game because we play like bunch of pussies. Its first season for Mou, but next season will come and I feel Willian, Oscar and co wont change much apart from few new signings...Luiz and Rambo are here for several seasons now and they dont improve either.

Apart from defence, nothing has realy improved and become consistant. Attack is toothless, while midfield (even with Matic) isnt on level yet.

And I realy wonder if its good thing to spend 25mio+ on 18year old full back Shaw when we need more mature, prime age players to lead the team.

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Now his tryin to blame the team's fuck up on Torres, he messed up today and earlier on when he loaned out Lukaku now his complaining like a baby

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Must be really furious tonight...Before the match he said that the positive was the solidity of the back 4 and today, that caves in...

Personally wouldn't give too much thought to this match...This wasn't the easiest match to make a comeback after the Palace defeat anyway, and besides this isn't the team we would have fielded if everyone was available.

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Guadiola, I would have preferred him to Mourinho to be honest, I love his type of football and he generally gives youth a chance at the same time developing existing players

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Mourinho is overrating every oponent we play against. We have quality squad but he goes extremely defensive in most games. He lost winning mentality that he had before. He never played beautiful football, but got the result in most games. He doesnt have the balls to say we go all out against aston villa or West ham from first minute.

Second problem are our players. No imagination, no balls, no creativity, no consistancy, no determination, motivation, desire, spark whatsoever.

The players dont improve. We bought Schurrle because he was threat from distance. Have you seen him taking long shots here? We bought Willian because he was rick-rolling opponents in Shakhtar. He made the look like fools...even us in CL. Did he do that here? How many times did he dribble past few players and made superb assist for Shakhtar? And how many for Chelsea? Oscar as #10, I have no idea what is the point of him playing there. He is like CM playing high on the pitch and cant make any kind of threat in attack. Wont go in pivot debate, because clearly we need new CM.

Our game has no width, Pastore who is generaly shit player made stunnig run tonight, cant imagine any of our attackers could do that bar Hazard. They dont have balls to do it.

I dont know if its problem in players, or Mourinho, maybe they just need time, but it will be damn important for them to improve come next season. Because at this rate getting someone like Reus isnt that crazy. We cant perform in attack to save our lives and thats terrible. It isnt one game, its been like that for whole season with few very very good games.

We didnt even tried to score in second half. I question what Mou is saying to the players. In the past only win was option for him and he was great motivator, tried risky but efficient subs, something we yet have to see this season.

Im sick of watching us getting bitchslapped every second game because we play like bunch of pussies. Its first season for Mou, but next season will come and I feel Willian, Oscar and co wont change much apart from few new signings...Luiz and Rambo are here for several seasons now and they dont improve either.

And I realy wonder if its good thing to spend 25mio+ on 18year old full back Shaw when we need more mature, prime age players to lead the team.

Curious...was this your opinion during the city game...never thought we were overly defensive against West Ham either...considering the result

But yes, might have been overly cautious for a few of them..

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Funny how the doubters come crawling out of the woodwork just to say 'I told you so'. Review him after the season over if anything. 2-0 in the second leg isn't impossible.

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Must be really furious tonight...Before the match he said that the positive was the solidity of the back 4 and today, that caves in...

Personally wouldn't give too much thought to this match...This wasn't the easiest match to make a comeback after the Palace defeat anyway, and besides this isn't the team we would have fielded if everyone was available.

Defense was good till the David Luiz cock up.

If we sell him in the summer hope we get someone else.

Cause mikel is even worse and lampard about to retire.

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Curious...was this your opinion during the city game...never thought we were overly defensive against West Ham either...considering the result

But yes, might have been overly cautious for a few of them..

I said in most games. There were also good games like City, Arsenal, Gala home,...

We played 2/3rd of the team defenders vs Crystal ffs. When you play pivot of Matic-Luiz vs Crystal you would think they have 5 Messi's and our defence needs extra cover from pivot ffs. And why didnt Mou tried Cole- Azpi as full backs more times?

As I said, Mou made from offensive players a defensive team. Thats why we are good in defence, but (usualy) bad in attack.

I stand behind Mou, but wont hide to point the problems he and team still has.

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Who do people think we would realistically get if Jose went? There is no one else out there that could transform this team in 1 season. There are so many average players in this team and we don't even have a quality striker. Dont underestimate how much of an impact a few quality players have, look at Dourtmond this season without gotze, they looked even worse tonight with Lewandowski suspended. Look at the difference Sturridge and Suarez have made to Liverpool.

Mourinho will not change his tactics and philosophy, it may be stubborn but it will benefit us in the future. We have to get used to playing this way and it's not easy without a quality striker that he needs.

Jose is a winner and he will find a way to get us back to the top.

Judge the team on next season after he has a chance to buy the players he needs. We should think ourselves lucky to be where we are right now.

Look at the mess United have got in, at least we will have CL football and one of the best managers around

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And he had the guts to call Arsene Wenger a specialist in Failure, he is the failure for failing to fix our scoring problems and set piece problems all season. His not won anything in 2 years by the way

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