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The Mourinho Thread

Started by Fulham Broadway,

6 minutes ago, King11Didier said:

I'm not happy because I don't trust in his words anymore. If he don't go for manure he will show a nice gesture that he didn't lie when saying he loves Chelsea. But if he go there, he will confirm that you can't trust in any of his words.

What are you talking about? His word was he will go to other English team if Chelsea sack him. Jose never told he won't manage other English team. That was his word and it's very honest...

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6 minutes ago, King11Didier said:

I'm not happy because I don't trust in his words anymore. If he don't go for manure he will show a nice gesture that he didn't lie when saying he loves Chelsea. But if he go there, he will confirm that you can't trust in any of his words.

Mascherano:

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“My feelings for Liverpool don’t mean I’m tied to them. I have a lot of affection for them and always will have, but if in the future a Premier League team gave me a chance, you can’t say: ‘No, I’d only play for one team,’” he says. “We’re professionals, this is our living. Whatever happens, my feelings for Liverpool won’t change.

 

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Mascherano :D What an example. I'm sure he will even play for Everton if they give him more than Barca and he won't even think twice.
I know they are professionals and they do this for a living. What I'm talking abouts is something different. If he really loves the club(said that not only once in interviews), he won't take manure's job so easy. So he have said if he gets the sack from the team he loves. he will manage another top team from England, of course, bacause he loves the country. OK. Now I know he doesn't love Chelsea and is ready to give all his heart to united. Losing me here as his big fan.

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2 minutes ago, King11Didier said:

Mascherano :D What an example. I'm sure he will even play for Everton if they give him more than Barca and he won't even think twice.
I know they are professionals and they do this for a living. What I'm talking abouts is something different. If he really loves the club(said that not only once in interviews), he won't take manure's job so easy. So he have said if he gets the sack from the team he loves. he will manage another top team from England, of course, bacause he loves the country. OK. Now I know he doesn't love Chelsea and is ready to give all his heart to united. Losing me here as his big fan.

So basically the same happened with Juan Mata. He really loved the club (said not only once in interviews). And what happened? He ended up joining United. So in your standarts he shouldn't have joined them only because he loves us. Unless you hate Juan too now.

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The differences are that Juan is a player and Mou is a manager. Mou will have bigger impact for utd if he goes there, And Mata wasn't for such a long time with the club and hasn't the same strong connection between the fans and him as Mou.

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The career of a manager differs a lot from that of a footballer, for that reason it is really difficult not to go to a rival club. 

1) A career of a manager at top level is a lot longer than that of a professional footballer: take Jose for example, he started coaching Porto (first big club) when he was 39 years old and came to us for the first time when he was 41. Currently he is already for about 13 years in the business, that's a long time but he could easily coach at top level for another 17 years, that makes 30 years in total. The same goes for other young talented managers like Pochettino and Simeone, or examples that already happened like Sir Alex and Wenger. 

And what is the average career length of a professional footballer at top level? Let's say if you take the Giggs, Seedorfs and Totti's as example, that's 20 years as maximum for players to perform at top level at a top club, but the average is closer to 15 years and that's already above the average I think. So that makes 30 years versus 15 years. 

2) The second thing is, as a manager nowadays your career is very unstable and fragile. You don't have your faith in your own hands, I think nobody here could say Jose did badly in his first spell for us, but yet he was sacked in his 4th season. Or if you look like Carlo recently, won La Decima but still got sacked after a trophy-less season. There are many more examples, but bar Pep every top manager has been recycled multiple times in the last 10 years .Managers are like clothes nowadays, the owners just changes clothes whenever they want.  

Compare this to the average stay of players at a club, look at Aurier for example, how is it possible that he isn't sacked yet? Because players have a resale value and managers normally don't have that, that makes it difficult to get rid of players if they don't want to move. Look at our own club: the likes of Mikel and Oscar are just waste of space but if they don't want to move- you can hardly push them to move, especially Mikel who was often not even on the bench but still stayed at the club because he has a contract. 

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So I just wanted to make clear that the chance of a manager to join rival clubs is much bigger because they (average) 1) have a longer career and 2) a shorter stay per club than a footballer. So we can't really blame Jose if he moves to Man United after being sacked twice by Roman, unless you expect him to go to small clubs in England as his family wants to stay in England. 

 

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First piece of news with quotes from someone who could actually be in the know?

 

http://www.football-italia.net/80149/moratti-mourinho-manchester


 

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Inter director Bedy Moratti accidentally let slip “Jose Mourinho is happy, he’s going to Manchester United.”

The sister of former President Massimo Moratti spoke to calciomercato.com as she left a lunch meeting with Mourinho and her family.

“Of course he’s always fantastic and we missed him as a person here,” she said in the video interview.

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1 hour ago, King11Didier said:

Mou will have bigger impact for utd if he goes there,

What are you talking about? Mourinho is a failed manager. He's the worst there has ever been, he left us in the relegation zone and he's to blame for all of Chelsea problems. We should be happy and thankful that he's going to MU because he will destroy them like he destroyed us....... right? :ph34r:

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Looking more and more likely just a matter of when it's announced really.end of the day if he wants to stay in England then meh it's his choice. Cant hold that against him or him going to Man U. unlikey to pass up the chance if offered.

Just be weird seeing them with a decent manager 

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I think we'll all be jealous in the coming years of their back 4 in particular once they've worked under José. When they get proper coaching and are set out tactically in a way that works in the modern game unlike the suicidal defending LvG teaches.

A back line featuring Darmian who has been very impressive this season, Smalling who has improved greatly, Luke Shaw who was very good before getting injured, and inevitably John Stones. Two CB's who are brilliant on the ball and highly mobile along with 2 modern fullbacks who are excellent going forward and more than adequate defensively. Not to mention he'd have 3/4ths of what should be England's back line for the next decade. He's always said he wants lots of English players in his team so I think Stones is a foregone conclusion.

Rewroking their attack is what may prove tricky initially. Not for long I'd imagine, though with their budget. Ibrahimovic for a season or two with Rooney as their #10 in behind him wouldn't surprise me and I think it would be highly effective. Front 4 of Ibra, Rooney, Martial, and Depay. Loads of pace on the flanks and goals from all over. Has the look of a prototypical Mourinho team and quite scary.

-----------------Ibra---------------

Martial------Rooney-------Depay

-------Herrera-------Schneiderlin-------

Shaw---Smalling---Stones---Darmian

----------------De Gea----------------

Certainly a side capable of winning the PL under Mourinho's management.

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2 minutes ago, Pizy said:

I think we'll all be jealous in the coming years of their back 4 in particular once they've worked under José. When they get proper coaching and are set out tactically in a way that works in the modern game unlike the suicidal defending LvG teaches.

A back line featuring Darmian who has been very impressive this season, Smalling who has improved greatly, Luke Shaw who was very good before getting injured, and inevitably John Stones. Two CB's who are brilliant on the ball and highly mobile along with 2 modern fullbacks who are excellent going forward and more than adequate defensively. Not to mention he'd have 3/4ths of what should be England's back line for the next decade. He's always said he wants lots of English players in his team so I think Stones is a foregone conclusion.

Rewroking their attack is what may prove tricky initially. Not for long I'd imagine, though with their budget. Ibrahimovic for a season or two with Rooney as their #10 in behind him wouldn't surprise me and I think it would be highly effective. Front 4 of Ibra, Rooney, Martial, and Depay. Loads of pace on the flanks and goals from all over. Has the look of a prototypical Mourinho team and quite scary.

-----------------Ibra---------------

Martial------Rooney-------Depay

-------Herrera-------Schneiderlin-------

Shaw---Smalling---Stones---Darmian

----------------De Gea----------------

Certainly a side capable of winning the PL under Mourinho's management.

I am sure with the money they have they will add a few world class players to this squad. Don't think they will finish with Ibra as the main striker..

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27 minutes ago, Laylabelle said:

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Just be weird seeing them with a decent manager 

Even more weird is what has already started: ManUnited fans defending Jose and his antics, over the years most of them mocked him, but that's gone.
World's changing quickly these days.
 

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40 minutes ago, HD3D said:

What are you talking about? Mourinho is a failed manager. He's the worst there has ever been, he left us in the relegation zone and he's to blame for all of Chelsea problems. We should be happy and thankful that he's going to MU because he will destroy them like he destroyed us....... right? :ph34r:

There's reports of a 350 million pound transferbudget for them in the summer, so that would be quite a feat.

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But as far as I know, he said that he wants his family to stay in London anyway. His children not to move schools again.

And between Manchester and London is quite a distance. Tbf it's basically the same time travel between Paris and London. Why don't he go to Paris ? Yeah, I guess they don't want him there.

It's a pity. Can see Jose staying there for some time. I mean, LVG is still in charge even though everyone see what he's doing.

Somethings dying inside me. It's not how it was supposed to be. In the moments like this being a fan from abroad who doesn't have a privilege to go to games is frustrating and vain. Nothingness really. If Hazard leaves in the summer just shoot me please.

 

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36 minutes ago, Weckerz said:

There's reports of a 350 million pound transferbudget for them in the summer, so that would be quite a feat.

he'll spend half of it on khedira and eto

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 thing is with the whole what he Said.Maybe he does/did love us but still Man U jobs is huge and be daft to turn it down because of something he said once.Doesnt happen really

End of the day we sacked him.Hes free.Not like he's still with us and said end of the season he's gana leave us and go there 

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9 minutes ago, lucio said:

he'll spend half of it on khedira and eto

 

And he will spend the other half to beat those Chinese clubs to sign Falcao

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1 hour ago, Tautvix said:

I am sure with the money they have they will add a few world class players to this squad. Don't think they will finish with Ibra as the main striker..

Ibra for one season as a stop gap would be brilliant, though. If you want to make a big push at the league in his first season then he'd be a nice short term signing. Hell, I'd have him here on a free for a season if we had CL football. No chance he'd come here without it unless we still had José.

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