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Jason

11. Pedro Rodríguez

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Well, well, well...

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/jan/10/frank-lampard-olivier-giroud-chelsea

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Lampard hinted that Pedro could yet be of importance this season, especially with Christian Pulisic out for a fortnight after suffering an adductor injury. Pedro’s contract is up at the end of the season but the Spanish winger could be involved when Burnley visit Stamford Bridge on Saturday.

“He is part of my plans,” Lampard said. “I know he wants more games, I get that. But he certainly has something that he can contribute here. I know his contract is up at the end of the season but I am not even looking that far ahead. I need everybody because football can change very quickly.”

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57 minutes ago, Jason said:

He was really good at points vs Forrest, particularly early. The way he knitted play together with those cross field runs, and multiple one-twos, was very impressive. Callum got some praise in this game, but I felt Pedro was probably better.

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Sigh, it figures we are now reliant on the 2nd oldest winger (almost the oldest, missed it by three months) and the 4th oldest (Willian) to save our arse. If either plays at LW, they are by far the oldest LW in the League (there is only ONE over 27 EPL LWer atm, the just turned 30yo entirely blääää Junior Stanislaus.) Well Atsu just turned 28 yesterday as well. But you get the point.

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Letting Pedro go might be right for Chelsea and the player

https://theathletic.com/1559290/2020/01/26/chelsea-pedro-mls-miami/

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Chelsea are in no position to sell too many players this month but Pedro might give them a decision to make before the transfer window shuts on Friday.

Pedro, 33 in July, has received offers from David Beckham’s new MLS franchise Inter Miami, plus clubs in China and in his native Spain. With just five months left on his contract and little chance of being given an extension, it is now just a question of when, not if, Pedro will leave Stamford Bridge.

Inter Miami have been linked with a number of high-profile overseas stars as they still have two Designated Player berths to fill, but Pedro is a far more realistic possibility to join than the coveted David Silva and Luis Suarez before they have to be roster-compliant on February 28.

Inter Miami’s first competitive fixture is on March 1 and the club’s hierarchy have confirmed they want new talent to arrive as soon as possible in order to join pre-season training. Sporting director Paul McDonough told the Miami Herald a few days ago: “We still have some more players to sign, so hopefully that will happen this week, next week.

“(We need) a couple of defenders, midfielders, and two attacking players. I feel very happy with the players we have here. Could we start this way? Yeah… but we’re going to add some more special players and I think that will push us over the top.”

It is understandable why Pedro is regarded as a suitable target. He is one of the most successful footballers in the game, having won 26 trophies with Barcelona, Chelsea and Spain.

He will probably be able to earn a lot more in China, where the window to buy players is open to February 27, but that would require him to move further away from his three children. They now live in Spain, with Pedro and his ex-wife having got divorced three years ago, which is why any possible move back there would be attractive.

By negotiating with Inter Milan over the sale of Olivier Giroud, who has already agreed personal terms, Chelsea have shown they are prepared to allow fringe members of their squad to depart in January. They have history in this regard, having sold another individual past his prime, Cesc Fabregas, to Monaco 12 months ago.

Like Giroud and Fabregas, Pedro has become a stranger to Chelsea’s first team. If he doesn’t feature again this season, it will be the second-fewest amount of appearances he’s made in a single campaign in his career. The current two lowest were recorded when he was just breaking into the Barcelona side from the youth ranks, playing just twice in 2007-8 and 14 times a year later.

To his credit, sources have told The Athletic that Pedro’s demeanour hasn’t changed. There has been no sign of any sulking or complaining to Lampard about his treatment.

He remains a popular figure in the dressing room, although naturally spends most of his time with players close to his own age like Willian and Marcos Alonso.

Pedro hasn’t been the most vocal member of the group anyway over the past four and a half years. But just as he left Barcelona on good terms when a lack of game time became an issue in 2015, it appears he is being just as professional now.

The forward has earned a lot of good will at Chelsea. He won’t be regarded in the same manner as Eden Hazard — not many will — but his contribution has been positive overall. There have been 42 goals in 195 games, a record of just under one every five matches, which is pretty respectable for someone in his position.

Some of Pedro’s most notable strikes came en route to Chelsea’s last Premier League title triumph in 2017. There were nine in the top division but supporters most fondly remember his efforts in wins against Manchester United, Tottenham and Everton.

He helped Chelsea win the FA Cup the following season, his header in extra time clinching a narrow 2-1 victory at Leicester City in the quarter-final. And in the Europa League success last year, he found the net five times. One was a vital away goal in the semi-final against Eintracht Frankfurt and a typically assured finish in the 4-1 thrashing of Arsenal in the final.

Unfortunately, it has been some fall from grace under Frank Lampard in 2019-20. Pedro has played just 329 minutes in the Premier League while his appearance in the FA Cup fourth round match at Hull was only his 12th in all competitions.

Judging by the way the Spain international performed against the Championship club, he may have quite a wait before making a 13th outing should he remain at Stamford Bridge until his deal expires.

On paper, Pedro’s statistics at Hull looked good, ranking high in a number of categories. He made the most tackles of any Chelsea player (four), gained possession on 10 occasions (tied with Mateo Kovacic), attempted the second-most amount of passes (63 with 81 per cent completion) and made more passes in Hull’s half.

But the Opta stats also reveal he also lost possession 18 times (second only to Alonso’s 19) and produced just two crosses from open play.

It was how he performed to the naked eye though which provided the most accurate reflection. He looked so slow and clumsy on the ball, the normally-reliant finishing touch deserting him as two good chances were wasted.

Even if he doesn’t command a transfer fee — unlikely given director Marina Granovskaia’s impressive record — Chelsea could save themselves around £2.5 million in wages should Pedro make an early departure.

When everyone is fit, Pedro is now fourth choice among Chelsea’s wingers behind Willian, Callum Hudson-Odoi and Christian Pulisic.

Pulisic has been ruled out for a few weeks with a groin injury but he is set to return to training this week. Should the contest against Leicester on February 1 come too early, the 21-year-old will definitely be available after the winter break when they host Manchester United.

And there is the welcome sight of Ruben Loftus-Cheek back in first-team training following a ruptured Achilles, although working up to match fitness will take a bit of time. Mason Mount has been used on occasion on the flanks too, so there is an argument that Chelsea have enough cover in the position to let Pedro go.

However, Lampard is hoping to bring at least one signing in during the current transfer window rather than compounding the imminent loss of Giroud. The coach admitted recently that he wants Pedro to stick around.

“He is part of my plans,” said Lampard. “I started the season and he was in my team. Unfortunately, he got injured at Norwich before the game and I had to make a change. Then, he was out for a while and I do have competition in that area.

“He has had bits here and there. I know he wants more games — I get that. But he certainly has something that he can contribute here with his experience, ability to break lines and run behind people, and maybe get those goals in and around the box.

“I know his contract is up at the end of the season but I’m not even looking that far ahead. He’s here, he’s part of the squad, and I need everybody because football can change very quickly.”

But performing like he did at Hull or in the 1-0 loss at home to West Ham back in November — his last start in the Premier League — won’t be of much help to anybody. Even Pedro appeared crestfallen when his touch let him down at the KCOM Stadium on Saturday.

Before Christmas, the 32-year-old made it pretty clear he was already thinking of life after Chelsea. He said: “There are offers. There are always clubs that are interested and that is a joy. I still have years to play but you’re thinking about what things are going on. I’m running out of contract at Chelsea. I’m free and we’ll see what happens.”

Pedro has proved value for money since joining from Barcelona for £21.4 million in 2015 but perhaps he should be allowed to pursue a 27th winner’s medal somewhere else.

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9 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Letting Pedro go might be right for Chelsea and the player

https://theathletic.com/1559290/2020/01/26/chelsea-pedro-mls-miami/

pedro-1024x683.jpg

Chelsea are in no position to sell too many players this month but Pedro might give them a decision to make before the transfer window shuts on Friday.

Pedro, 33 in July, has received offers from David Beckham’s new MLS franchise Inter Miami, plus clubs in China and in his native Spain. With just five months left on his contract and little chance of being given an extension, it is now just a question of when, not if, Pedro will leave Stamford Bridge.

Inter Miami have been linked with a number of high-profile overseas stars as they still have two Designated Player berths to fill, but Pedro is a far more realistic possibility to join than the coveted David Silva and Luis Suarez before they have to be roster-compliant on February 28.

Inter Miami’s first competitive fixture is on March 1 and the club’s hierarchy have confirmed they want new talent to arrive as soon as possible in order to join pre-season training. Sporting director Paul McDonough told the Miami Herald a few days ago: “We still have some more players to sign, so hopefully that will happen this week, next week.

“(We need) a couple of defenders, midfielders, and two attacking players. I feel very happy with the players we have here. Could we start this way? Yeah… but we’re going to add some more special players and I think that will push us over the top.”

It is understandable why Pedro is regarded as a suitable target. He is one of the most successful footballers in the game, having won 26 trophies with Barcelona, Chelsea and Spain.

He will probably be able to earn a lot more in China, where the window to buy players is open to February 27, but that would require him to move further away from his three children. They now live in Spain, with Pedro and his ex-wife having got divorced three years ago, which is why any possible move back there would be attractive.

By negotiating with Inter Milan over the sale of Olivier Giroud, who has already agreed personal terms, Chelsea have shown they are prepared to allow fringe members of their squad to depart in January. They have history in this regard, having sold another individual past his prime, Cesc Fabregas, to Monaco 12 months ago.

Like Giroud and Fabregas, Pedro has become a stranger to Chelsea’s first team. If he doesn’t feature again this season, it will be the second-fewest amount of appearances he’s made in a single campaign in his career. The current two lowest were recorded when he was just breaking into the Barcelona side from the youth ranks, playing just twice in 2007-8 and 14 times a year later.

To his credit, sources have told The Athletic that Pedro’s demeanour hasn’t changed. There has been no sign of any sulking or complaining to Lampard about his treatment.

He remains a popular figure in the dressing room, although naturally spends most of his time with players close to his own age like Willian and Marcos Alonso.

Pedro hasn’t been the most vocal member of the group anyway over the past four and a half years. But just as he left Barcelona on good terms when a lack of game time became an issue in 2015, it appears he is being just as professional now.

The forward has earned a lot of good will at Chelsea. He won’t be regarded in the same manner as Eden Hazard — not many will — but his contribution has been positive overall. There have been 42 goals in 195 games, a record of just under one every five matches, which is pretty respectable for someone in his position.

Some of Pedro’s most notable strikes came en route to Chelsea’s last Premier League title triumph in 2017. There were nine in the top division but supporters most fondly remember his efforts in wins against Manchester United, Tottenham and Everton.

He helped Chelsea win the FA Cup the following season, his header in extra time clinching a narrow 2-1 victory at Leicester City in the quarter-final. And in the Europa League success last year, he found the net five times. One was a vital away goal in the semi-final against Eintracht Frankfurt and a typically assured finish in the 4-1 thrashing of Arsenal in the final.

Unfortunately, it has been some fall from grace under Frank Lampard in 2019-20. Pedro has played just 329 minutes in the Premier League while his appearance in the FA Cup fourth round match at Hull was only his 12th in all competitions.

Judging by the way the Spain international performed against the Championship club, he may have quite a wait before making a 13th outing should he remain at Stamford Bridge until his deal expires.

On paper, Pedro’s statistics at Hull looked good, ranking high in a number of categories. He made the most tackles of any Chelsea player (four), gained possession on 10 occasions (tied with Mateo Kovacic), attempted the second-most amount of passes (63 with 81 per cent completion) and made more passes in Hull’s half.

But the Opta stats also reveal he also lost possession 18 times (second only to Alonso’s 19) and produced just two crosses from open play.

It was how he performed to the naked eye though which provided the most accurate reflection. He looked so slow and clumsy on the ball, the normally-reliant finishing touch deserting him as two good chances were wasted.

Even if he doesn’t command a transfer fee — unlikely given director Marina Granovskaia’s impressive record — Chelsea could save themselves around £2.5 million in wages should Pedro make an early departure.

When everyone is fit, Pedro is now fourth choice among Chelsea’s wingers behind Willian, Callum Hudson-Odoi and Christian Pulisic.

Pulisic has been ruled out for a few weeks with a groin injury but he is set to return to training this week. Should the contest against Leicester on February 1 come too early, the 21-year-old will definitely be available after the winter break when they host Manchester United.

And there is the welcome sight of Ruben Loftus-Cheek back in first-team training following a ruptured Achilles, although working up to match fitness will take a bit of time. Mason Mount has been used on occasion on the flanks too, so there is an argument that Chelsea have enough cover in the position to let Pedro go.

However, Lampard is hoping to bring at least one signing in during the current transfer window rather than compounding the imminent loss of Giroud. The coach admitted recently that he wants Pedro to stick around.

“He is part of my plans,” said Lampard. “I started the season and he was in my team. Unfortunately, he got injured at Norwich before the game and I had to make a change. Then, he was out for a while and I do have competition in that area.

“He has had bits here and there. I know he wants more games — I get that. But he certainly has something that he can contribute here with his experience, ability to break lines and run behind people, and maybe get those goals in and around the box.

“I know his contract is up at the end of the season but I’m not even looking that far ahead. He’s here, he’s part of the squad, and I need everybody because football can change very quickly.”

But performing like he did at Hull or in the 1-0 loss at home to West Ham back in November — his last start in the Premier League — won’t be of much help to anybody. Even Pedro appeared crestfallen when his touch let him down at the KCOM Stadium on Saturday.

Before Christmas, the 32-year-old made it pretty clear he was already thinking of life after Chelsea. He said: “There are offers. There are always clubs that are interested and that is a joy. I still have years to play but you’re thinking about what things are going on. I’m running out of contract at Chelsea. I’m free and we’ll see what happens.”

Pedro has proved value for money since joining from Barcelona for £21.4 million in 2015 but perhaps he should be allowed to pursue a 27th winner’s medal somewhere else.

Its actually really poor timing for his legs to go this season.

16/17 Pedro or even last season's version would have been the perfect foil for the young players. Imagine being one of the young lads against Bayern and a guy who was a part of the greatest side ever by your side in battle.

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10 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Its actually really poor timing for his legs to go this season.

16/17 Pedro or even last season's version would have been the perfect foil for the young players. Imagine being one of the young lads against Bayern and a guy who was a part of the greatest side ever by your side in battle.

he also doesn't even really try to set up and shoot

it is maddening, but his legs going have fucked up his separation geometry

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Kobe from Japan and Roma want him. 

Let him go and buy back Boga. 

But since Frank wants Willian to stay after summer he'll keep Pedro around till summer and then replace with Sancho. 

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