test

Welcome to Talk Chelsea

Register now to gain access to all of our features. Once registered and logged in, you will be able to contribute to this site by submitting your own content or replying to existing content. You'll be able to customize your profile, receive reputation points as a reward for submitting content, while also communicating with other members via your own private inbox, plus much more! This message will be removed once you have signed in.

DavidEU

Nemanja Matic

Started by DavidEU,

4,238 posts in this topic
13 minutes ago, Stats said:

 

It is about time we stop talking about how much we are receiving and start doing something with the money. If that is true, it is a lot of money however the squad is thin. We should have a player lined up before we even consider selling him, which I doubt we do.  Mourinho clearly knows he needs a CM to be a stronger team and look there is us giving him is wish. Why we are even dealing with them after Lukaku stuff, I don't know and they are a direct rival for the title. Matic joining them is going to make Pogba much more of an attacking force next season. And no he is not useless. Ridiculous statement. We don't strengthen another team when they are making clear that is a position they want to strengthen. We made a lot of money due to the title win and Oscar/Ake sales. Why can't the club just spend rather than one in, one out policy and selling to direct rival concerns me. Especially as I think it makes them a lot more of a complete team now.

It also sends the wrong message to our current players that they have more power than the club and can force a move to the club of their choice. Right now it might just be Matic, who you can argue can be replaced fairly easily, but sooner or later one of our more talented players will want to move to a rival and it will be difficult for the board to refuse because they have already set a precedence of selling to rivals. 

 

 

Amblève. likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Every match day people on this forum would insult Matic, now that he is going to United he is suddenly very very good.

Lets face it, he hasnt had a great game since his our title win under Mourinho. He has been awful most of last season. What the fuck are you guys complaining about?

Dimitr, Wallosh, TheIceMan and 1 other like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, Polo7 said:

Every match day people on this forum would insult Matic, now that he is going to United he is suddenly very very good.

Lets face it, he hasnt had a great game since his our title win under Mourinho. He has been awful most of last season. What the fuck are you guys complaining about?

Such an exaggeration to say he was awful most season. So all those games we won where majority he played, he was poor? Rubbish... I have always rated Matic and always thought he has been underappreciated and FWIW I think most people are angry about who we are selling him to when it is a position they made clear needs upgrading.

Johnnyeye likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, Polo7 said:

Every match day people on this forum would insult Matic, now that he is going to United he is suddenly very very good.

Lets face it, he hasnt had a great game since his our title win under Mourinho. He has been awful most of last season. What the fuck are you guys complaining about?

He's a solid 7/10 player most games. He'll have the odd shite game and the odd great game but was mostly solid last season. Solid enough to start almost every game for us en route to the title.

That to me means that it's stupid to sell him to a rival. It's not as though we're selling them a transformative player who will elevate them to a whole new level, but any improvement at all we provide for a rival is too much in my eyes.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, Pizy said:

He's a solid 7/10 player most games. He'll have the odd shite game and the odd great game but was mostly solid last season. Solid enough to start almost every game for us en route to the title.

That to me means that it's stupid to sell him to a rival. It's not as though we're selling them a transformative player who will elevate them to a whole new level, but any improvement at all we provide for a rival is too much in my eyes.

7/10??? Lol what were you smoking? Under pressure he would almost always lose the ball and is extremely one footed. He wont make United stronger and we wont be weaker with him leaving. 

Dimitr and MefiX19 like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, Polo7 said:

7/10??? Lol what were you smoking? Under pressure he would almost always lose the ball and is extremely one footed. He wont make United stronger and we wont be weaker with him leaving. 

Okay, you're right. He's utterly shit and you know better than serial title winner José Mourinho. 

🙄

Johnnyeye, Essien19 and Stats like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

some new bodies in this team, we are looking so thin in terms of numbers.

Big time we are screwed if we were to get a few injuries 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
16 minutes ago, Polo7 said:

Every match day people on this forum would insult Matic, now that he is going to United he is suddenly very very good.

Lets face it, he hasnt had a great game since his our title win under Mourinho. He has been awful most of last season. What the fuck are you guys complaining about?

i dont know how we won the league when we had so many awful players in our starting 11. matic, moses, alonso, cahill, willian, later costa. conte surely knows black magic i dont have any other explanation.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I respect what he has done for this club, he's been very good but also poor at times, but it's time to replace him with someone much better, maybe not so much in his position but elsewhere. Bakayoko will be an excellent purchase IMO, but the money from Matic must be fully invested in this squad quickly.

Dimitr likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
14 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Okay, you're right. He's utterly shit and you know better than serial title winner José Mourinho. 

🙄

You are right, every signing Mourinho has ever made has been perfect. Id rather believe what I saw with my own eyes during the last 2 seasons. Matic has been bang average.

Pretty sure even Mourinho was subbing Matic off / not playing him during his last season here. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, Polo7 said:

You are right, every signing Mourinho has ever made has been perfect. Id rather believe what I saw with my own eyes during the last 2 seasons. Matic has been bang average.

Pretty sure even Mourinho was subbing Matic off / not playing him during his last season here. 

Matic has been bang average and Conte still chose to play him and not by another CM in January. Ok... Matic had more solid games than poor games but fans on here just like to scapegoat certain players. Same like Cahill. Had a solid season last one but one mistake and suddenly he is awful for whole season. You wouldn't be able to tell me all the games last season Matic was apparently 'awful' in. Anyway next season will show much of an improvement he had made United I guess then we can see who was proven right and wrong.

Johnnyeye and Essien19 like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

2 things I worry about if he goes to United:

1. We are selling to United, now why would you do that?/

2. Not having a replacement in place.

Our squad looks depleted as is with more players leaving than joining and more competitions to play why would the club put us in this position. Unless this is like a way to kind of lure someone in by giving them hope that they would be vital for the club. But the way the transfer is happening it looks like some of the good players only want money and aren't quite keen on playing/achieving their potential.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Tautvix said:

Sky sources: Chelsea are letting him join United as a goodwill gesture because of his contribution to two titles in three years. :D

Yeah, they pulled that out of their arses. It is solely Utd offering us more than anybody else - simple. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Dry your eyes lads ffs we sold our twice player of the year mata to the scum it didn't stop us from winning the league twice from selling mata 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
15 minutes ago, Stats said:

Matic has been bang average and Conte still chose to play him and not by another CM in January. Ok... Matic had more solid games than poor games but fans on here just like to scapegoat certain players. Same like Cahill. Had a solid season last one but one mistake and suddenly he is awful for whole season. You wouldn't be able to tell me all the games last season Matic was apparently 'awful' in. Anyway next season will show much of an improvement he had made United I guess then we can see who was proven right and wrong.

Who could we have realistically bought in January? Which team would sell to us without demanding enormous fees? It speaks for itself when Bakayoko was the first name we got linked with at the end of the season. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, Polo7 said:

Who could we have realistically bought in January? Which team would sell to us without demanding enormous fees? It speaks for itself when Bakayoko was the first name we got linked with at the end of the season. 

Fair enough. Prices are ridiculously inflated in January but during that 13 game win streak or majority of games we won, he was solid. I get he was not as solid as he was when he re-joined us and that excellent first season but he still was a useful player. And FWIW, he is much more composed and reliable at holding the ball than Kante. Obviously Kante is smaller but in terms of keeping possession was more reliable because of his larger frame. I just see United being a serious force next season. Matic/Herrera/Pogba for me is a much bigger threat than our midfield provides.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.