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BlueLion.

Oscar

Started by BlueLion.,

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If Oscar is on the bench against City next week ... that would be a completely absurd mistake

Oscar is now our player with the highest competitive tension, and yesterday he was the best in terms of creativity.

I'm not a big fan of him. But this year Oscar has a better attitude and he is improving day by day his performance. Even now he is our best option for CM (Although against City I think Jose will use Fabregas as CM). If he is not in our starting eleven next Sunday it would be a great disappointment.

In addition, we can not go in fear at the Etihad Stadium. We have to come out with our best players, and now Oscar is one of them.

Fabregas Matic

Oscar

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Its the gesture that SKY made a point of showing yesterday at HT, basically trying to stir shit when nobody knew what the celebration was about.

People making something out of nothing and then going "Lets stir up shit because it suits the situation"

maybe, but seeing it in the video posted last page, it was weird. Oscar is always so happy and enthusiastic in his goal celebrations. I don't think it has any long term implication, but something was definitely off.

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If there's one player that played well yesterday, it's this guy. Hope he continues to improve. :)

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I wouldn't completely rule out the possibility of them having a fractured relationship. Not sure Oscar was best too pleased about being left on the bench for the Community Shield. His reaction to getting subbed didn't look good either.

Ironically, that's probably the best thing for his development. People tend to perform best when they have a point to prove. He's been the "boy from Brasil" for far too long.

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It all goes both ways.

If he keeps on playing well, but keeps on being sacrificed by the manager for whatever reason, he may indeed become disillusioned and want to move.

He will then find another top team - that's where he belongs - and develop there. We will get good money for him because he is a top player.

That's a lot of ifs and buts though.

What we see this season is that as usual he's performing at a very high level in the beginning of the season. He's been so long playing poorly that some people have forgotten that he actually has very good technique in tight spaces, and most importantly, can actually score from long shots.

Now, I am VERY worried about Fabregas who was just as poor end last season and was our worst player yesterday.

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Hopefully he IS pissed off and tired of being dropped. Maybe José will even ridicule him in the media if he isn't playing well enough like he did with Hazard and it'll raise his level to where everyone expected it to be when we signed him.

Him being the only #10 in the squad may make him feel comfortable. Needs to be pushed and given tough love.

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I always think that Hazard plays best when Oscar is in the team, they seem to gel better and create goals for each other. On the down side it looks like he get tired after about 70 minutes, seems to run out of puff.

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Link please?

I never said he has written one.

Anyway on that incident, Oscar probably refused to celebrate much because he thought he got lucky with the free kick and all the talk about Mourinho not playing Oscar in the big games is a bit off. Since Mourinho returned, he has played Oscar in a lot of the big games. If anything, he only doesn't play him in few of the away matches.

2013/14:

Man United (a) - Played the whole game

Man United (h) - Played until the 68th minute

Arsenal (a) - Played the last 13 minutes

Arsenal (h) - Played 67 minutes

Man City (h) - Played the whole game

Man City (a) - Played last 7 minutes

Liverpool (h) - Played the whole game

Liverpool (a) - Not in squad but remember, we concentrated on the Champions League then

Tottenham (a) - Played the full game

Tottenham (h) - Came on at HT

PSG (a) - Played 73 minutes

PSG (h) - Played 81 minutes

Atletico Madrid (a) - On the bench

Atletico Madrid (h) - On the bench

2014/15:

Arsenal (h) - Played 87 minutes

Arsenal (a) - Came off at HT due to concussion

Man United (a) - Played 67 minutes

Man United (h) - Played 67 minutes

Liverpool (a) - Played the full game

Liverpool (h) - Didn't play due to injury

Man City (a) - On the bench but wasn't used

Man City (h) - Played the whole game

Tottenham (h) - Played the whole game

Tottenham (a) - Played 45 minutes

PSG (a) - Played 7 minutes

PSG (h) - Played first 45 minutes

I just can't see Oscar having a problem with Mourinho considering the latter has put so much faith and belief in the former to be our No.10 for years to come, till the point several other No.10s have been discarded.

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I never said he has written one.

Anyway on that incident, Oscar probably refused to celebrate much because he thought he got lucky with the free kick and all the talk about Mourinho not playing Oscar in the big games is a bit off. Since Mourinho returned, he has played Oscar in a lot of the big games. If anything, he only doesn't play him in few of the away matches.

2013/14:

Man United (a) - Played the whole game

Man United (h) - Played until the 68th minute

Arsenal (a) - Played the last 13 minutes

Arsenal (h) - Played 67 minutes

Man City (h) - Played the whole game

Man City (a) - Played last 7 minutes

Liverpool (h) - Played the whole game

Liverpool (a) - Not in squad but remember, we concentrated on the Champions League then

Tottenham (a) - Played the full game

Tottenham (h) - Came on at HT

PSG (a) - Played 73 minutes

PSG (h) - Played 81 minutes

Atletico Madrid (a) - On the bench

Atletico Madrid (h) - On the bench

2014/15:

Arsenal (h) - Played 87 minutes

Arsenal (a) - Came off at HT due to concussion

Man United (a) - Played 67 minutes

Man United (h) - Played 67 minutes

Liverpool (a) - Played the full game

Liverpool (h) - Didn't play due to injury

Man City (a) - On the bench but wasn't used

Man City (h) - Played the whole game

Tottenham (h) - Played the whole game

Tottenham (a) - Played 45 minutes

PSG (a) - Played 7 minutes

PSG (h) - Played first 45 minutes

I just can't see Oscar having a problem with Mourinho considering the latter has put so much faith and belief in the former to be our No.10 for years to come, till the point several other No.10s have been discarded.

Would be interesting to see our win rate with & without him.

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Loved the almost Thierry-Henry-like-nonchalant-celebration before his usual celebration. Shame he got subbed off and it didnt result in a win.

He really was swag. Really was boss.

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Now, I am VERY worried about Fabregas who was just as poor end last season and was our worst player yesterday.

ivanovic says hi!!!! they both probably had a bet to see who could suck more. and counting oliver, we were playing something like 9 v 14 to start with.

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I never said he has written one.

Anyway on that incident, Oscar probably refused to celebrate much because he thought he got lucky with the free kick and all the talk about Mourinho not playing Oscar in the big games is a bit off. Since Mourinho returned, he has played Oscar in a lot of the big games. If anything, he only doesn't play him in few of the away matches.

2013/14:

Man United (a) - Played the whole game

Man United (h) - Played until the 68th minute

Arsenal (a) - Played the last 13 minutes

Arsenal (h) - Played 67 minutes

Man City (h) - Played the whole game

Man City (a) - Played last 7 minutes

Liverpool (h) - Played the whole game

Liverpool (a) - Not in squad but remember, we concentrated on the Champions League then

Tottenham (a) - Played the full game

Tottenham (h) - Came on at HT

PSG (a) - Played 73 minutes

PSG (h) - Played 81 minutes

Atletico Madrid (a) - On the bench

Atletico Madrid (h) - On the bench

2014/15:

Arsenal (h) - Played 87 minutes

Arsenal (a) - Came off at HT due to concussion

Man United (a) - Played 67 minutes

Man United (h) - Played 67 minutes

Liverpool (a) - Played the full game

Liverpool (h) - Didn't play due to injury

Man City (a) - On the bench but wasn't used

Man City (h) - Played the whole game

Tottenham (h) - Played the whole game

Tottenham (a) - Played 45 minutes

PSG (a) - Played 7 minutes

PSG (h) - Played first 45 minutes

I just can't see Oscar having a problem with Mourinho considering the latter has put so much faith and belief in the former to be our No.10 for years to come, till the point several other No.10s have been discarded.

Well, but what were Mourinho's options on the bench in each of the game ? For example he didn't play against Man City away last year (of course he didn't) but played whole match at home because we had RLC, Brown, Ake and Christensen on the bench. For me two omissions in semi-final against Atletico tell you the story that Oscar's position in the team is far from certain and pretty much there for the taking.

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Well, but what were Mourinho's options on the bench in each of the game ? For example he didn't play against Man City away last year (of course he didn't) but played whole match at home because we had RLC, Brown, Ake and Christensen on the bench. For me two omissions in semi-final against Atletico tell you the story that Oscar's position in the team is far from certain and pretty much there for the taking.

Oscar was completely off form at that point of time and it made sense for Mourinho to drop him for the two matches.

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I never said he has written one.

Anyway on that incident, Oscar probably refused to celebrate much because he thought he got lucky with the free kick and all the talk about Mourinho not playing Oscar in the big games is a bit off. Since Mourinho returned, he has played Oscar in a lot of the big games. If anything, he only doesn't play him in few of the away matches.

2013/14:

Man United (a) - Played the whole game

Man United (h) - Played until the 68th minute

Arsenal (a) - Played the last 13 minutes

Arsenal (h) - Played 67 minutes

Man City (h) - Played the whole game

Man City (a) - Played last 7 minutes

Liverpool (h) - Played the whole game

Liverpool (a) - Not in squad but remember, we concentrated on the Champions League then

Tottenham (a) - Played the full game

Tottenham (h) - Came on at HT

PSG (a) - Played 73 minutes

PSG (h) - Played 81 minutes

Atletico Madrid (a) - On the bench

Atletico Madrid (h) - On the bench

2014/15:

Arsenal (h) - Played 87 minutes

Arsenal (a) - Came off at HT due to concussion

Man United (a) - Played 67 minutes

Man United (h) - Played 67 minutes

Liverpool (a) - Played the full game

Liverpool (h) - Didn't play due to injury

Man City (a) - On the bench but wasn't used

Man City (h) - Played the whole game

Tottenham (h) - Played the whole game

Tottenham (a) - Played 45 minutes

PSG (a) - Played 7 minutes

PSG (h) - Played first 45 minutes

I just can't see Oscar having a problem with Mourinho considering the latter has put so much faith and belief in the former to be our No.10 for years to come, till the point several other No.10s have been discarded.

So where you heard it?

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So where you heard it?

You have completely misunderstood the point. I never said Neil Ashton has written a story on it or there's one. If you remember, Ashton used to have insiders at the club, always writing pieces for Daily Mail about what's going on with the players, manager and the board (he doesn't have them anymore) and so, I just made that comment, which was meant to be tongue-in-cheek.

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Still think he has a small fallout with Jose behind the scene and Jose probably tries to avoid adding more fuel to this fire in light of recent events so he just says this to bench him for yet another big game easier.

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