The European Leagues & Competitions Thread V2

[Jase 43,479]

The worst part now is we will never hear the end of Istanbul 2.0.

Shocking stuff from Dortmund!

[Fernando 6,374]

1 minute ago, Pizy said:

Dortmund lost their heads and completely shut down thinking it was over. Klopp didn't allow his players to quit.

Klopp should be able to recruit real top quality players to Liverpool this summer which they haven't been able to do in a while. Yet another team that we'll have to contend with in a rebuilding year. 

Tough times ahead.

Thank you Mourinho, the Special One. 

[Pizy 17,860]

2 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Thank you Mourinho, the Special One. 

Imagine if our players played for him like Klopps do for him. He'd still be here...

[lucio 5,370]

2 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Thank you Mourinho, the Special One. 

Klopp will probably destroy him again.

[Last Sicarius 610]

4 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Thank you Mourinho, the Special One. 

And we could get him in November... But Roman choose but time to gibe a trust to Jose....

[Pizy 17,860]

Klopp doing well with Brenda's players, too. If he's able to recruit some class players to replace the average ones like Lallana, Moreno, Joe Allen etc he'll have them challenging for the title within 2 years.

 

[Fernando 6,374]

2 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Imagine if our players played for him like Klopps do for him. He'd still be here...

Yes but Mourinho is all about him, throw players under the bus. 

The old Mourinho wasn't like that, he would die for them. 

This Mourinho is just out of his depth. Madrid killed him just like it has killed many players in the past. 

[Pizy 17,860]

6 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Yes but Mourinho is all about him, throw players under the bus. 

The old Mourinho wasn't like that, he would die for them. 

This Mourinho is just out of his depth. Madrid killed him just like it has killed many players in the past. 

You may be right, but he will have success in Manchester regardless. May only be a season or two he'll be a pain in our ass still.

[Essien19 1,415]

What a game, muhaha.

Pool made England proud, umbelievable!

Get it, brought the League the points, best comeback of the year!

Again there's so much talking about Mourinho, get over it.

We ain't Liverpool, we don't live in the past, wake up and look forward!

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[Magic Lamps 11,441]

credit where it is true, tremendous performance from liverpool in the second half. Klopp made that bunch of average players exceed their own limitations with will, character and discipline. They still made tons of mistakes but the difference to Hazard, Fabregas and Co was that they kept going regardless.

[Pizy 17,860]

I hope Conte can make our squad of divas and slouches have this sort of ferocity and will to win at all costs that Liverpool's average ones have. A load of fighting spirit and excellent coaching can raise the level of decent players to great heights.

We've seen it this season with both Spurs and now Liverpool. Pochettino and Klopp have 2-3 good players in their teams and the rest are average, but they're fantastic managers who lift everyone. Imagine what you'd have if you combine a top manager with top talent who is willing to fight like hell.

We have much better players than either of those two sides. Hopefully Conte brings them around.

[Magic Lamps 11,441]

what Klopp is other than Mourinho is a pally character. He does not need to command full obedience and loyalty from his players for his authority to stand. Klopp is like the players big brother or best mate so he won't fall out with them as quickly and unreparable. Once Mourinho has lost a few players he loses the squad and consequently his job. Klopp does not have this demand of being perfect so he also doesn't need to find a culprit to blame when things go wrong. He can work on a solution together with the players. Mou's approach works brilliantly with mature, devoted characters (Zanetti, Lampard, Drogba, Lucio etc), who accept his authority and intromit but Klopp's is superior when dealing with youthfully exuberant sides, who still have to learn how to deal with their failures and amibitons. Consequently, klopps luck ran out as soon as the Dortmund and Mainz sides had matured. 

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

I'm still sitting on my couch wondering wtf just happened.... 

 

[Pizy 17,860]

2 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

what Klopp is other than Mourinho is a pally character. He does not need to command full obedience and loyalty from his players for his authority to stand. Klopp is like the players big brother or best mate so he won't fall out with them as quickly and unreparable. Once Mourinho has lost a few players he loses the squad and consequently his job. Klopp does not have this demand of being perfect so he also doesn't need to find a culprit to blame when things go wrong. He can work on a solution together with the players. Mou's approach works brilliantly with mature, devoted characters (Zanetti, Lampard, Drogba, Lucio etc), who accept his authority and intromit but Klopp's is superior when dealing with youthfully exuberant sides, who still have to learn how to deal with their failures and amibitons. Consequently, klopps luck ran out as soon as the Dortmund and Mainz sides had matured. 

This is spot on. Mou is cold when it comes to players. He has his favorites that he'll never throw under the bus or freeze out like Didier, Lamps, Cech, but he's ruthless with most players if they "wrong" him on the pitch. Klopp seems to genuinely love his players and care for them whereas José treats them like assets or tools.

[Last Sicarius 610]

4 minutes ago, Blue-in-me-Veins said:

I'm still sitting on my couch wondering wtf just happened.... 

 

I just think what was worst: our lost vs 10-man PSG or today Borussia throw.

[Pizy 17,860]

6 minutes ago, Blue-in-me-Veins said:

I'm still sitting on my couch wondering wtf just happened.... 

 

Is that Firmino singing in your avatar? 

[11Drogba 2,000]

3 minutes ago, Pizy said:

This is spot on. Mou is cold when it comes to players. He has his favorites that he'll never throw under the bus or freeze out like Didier, Lamps, Cech, but he's ruthless with most players if they "wrong" him on the pitch. Klopp seems to genuinely love his players and care for them whereas José treats them like assets or tools.

Great analysis as always. I am wondering what you think about Conte compared to these two?

[Pizy 17,860]

1 minute ago, 11Drogba said:

Great analysis as always. I am wondering what you think about Conte compared to these two?

Unfortunately I can't compare them as I didn't watch Juventus regularly. Judging by what his former superstar players like Pirlo and Buffon have said about him we may have the perfect man to bring us forward. 

All comes down to how much the board and owner back him in the market.