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Tobey Gibson

12. Ruben Loftus-Cheek

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Which ones and what does it mean ? So the two or three other will be ready just as Ruben is now in the season after next (2016/17) ?

Guess so. Ake/Christensen maybe?

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I don't even know why I want RLC to succeed so badly here, watching him he is not special in terms of talent when compared to his compatriots in the youth team, but, he has an intangible likeable quality which just makes him my favourite youngster. Maybe it's the fact he's English. Which isn't a good reason to like a player but hey. He's big. Maybe it's because he's big.

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I don't even know why I want RLC to succeed so badly here, watching him he is not special in terms of talent when compared to his compatriots in the youth team, but, he has an intangible likeable quality which just makes him my favourite youngster. Maybe it's the fact he's English. Which isn't a good reason to like a player but hey. He's big. Maybe it's because he's big.

He makes a great combination of talent and strong physical attributes. He can be perfect for us in the future if circumstances allow it.

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I don't even know why I want RLC to succeed so badly here, watching him he is not special in terms of talent when compared to his compatriots in the youth team, but, he has an intangible likeable quality which just makes him my favourite youngster. Maybe it's the fact he's English. Which isn't a good reason to like a player but hey. He's big. Maybe it's because he's big.

I rate him highly, one of the best youngster for sure, however also for sure, not the most talented player out there.

And you literally named the 2 things that I'd hate if they'd be decisive if he'd make it here and others don't. He's big and he's English. Nah.

After my obvious excitement with promoting our own youth player goes down I'd be still expecting more of our Academy players to break into the first team. If only RLC will be the one I'd be very disappointed because those 2 factors above would be decisive. No Boga or Musonda because they're not English ? No Charlie Colkett and Jay Dasilva because they're not big enough ? Bollocks.

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For a hundred million times already, Jose said RLC will be our first team player next season.

I still don't believe Mou, he lies a lot. For example:

Mourinho : "David Luiz will stay at Chelsea"- Luiz is gone (thank god he went btw)

Mourinho : "Mata will stay at Chelsea"- Mata was sold aswell

After this I don't believe a word he says.

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I still don't believe Mou, he lies a lot. For example:

Mourinho : "David Luiz will stay at Chelsea"- Luiz is gone (thank god he went btw)

Mourinho : "Mata will stay at Chelsea"- Mata was sold aswell

After this I don't believe a word he says.

All managers say people will stay before they are sold. This is different , noone would have mentioned rlc to him ,if he didn't bring the guy forward himself

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All managers say people will stay before they are sold. This is different , noone would have mentioned rlc to him ,if he didn't bring the guy forward himself

I hope it's true bro but I'm just trying not to get my hopes up.

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I rate him highly, one of the best youngster for sure, however also for sure, not the most talented player out there.

And you literally named the 2 things that I'd hate if they'd be decisive if he'd make it here and others don't. He's big and he's English. Nah.

After my obvious excitement with promoting our own youth player goes down I'd be still expecting more of our Academy players to break into the first team. If only RLC will be the one I'd be very disappointed because those 2 factors above would be decisive. No Boga or Musonda because they're not English ? No Charlie Colkett and Jay Dasilva because they're not big enough ? Bollocks.

there used to be a saying "if youre good enough youre old enough" now its "if youre BIG enough youre GOOD enough"

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there used to be a saying "if youre good enough youre old enough" now its "if youre BIG enough youre GOOD enough"

Being bigger means he's already built for the PL and will probably adapt faster than other youngsters. It's not the only requirement obviously but it helps enormously. I believe the other talented youth will also get their chances but they will have to prove their worth in the limited time they're given. Very limited time.

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Iam sure that next season Ruben Loftus-Cheek will be an important player for us in midfield and I have the feeling that Nathan Ake be an option for Left-Back.

It's easy to say that Jose is a liar, but he promised when he returned with us he was going to go on renewing our team slowly with players from our policy of signings of young players and this season we have the example of Kurt Zouma, one Centre-Back for the next decade. I trust JOSE.

Maybe next season our "new" Zouma will be RLC.

By the way if Jose says: "This player is a shit and we are going to sell him for only 2 pounds," it is more likely that his finall price will be ridiculous. For that reason Jose says: "This player is going to stay with us." It is logical.

Regards.

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I still don't believe Mou, he lies a lot. For example:

Mourinho : "David Luiz will stay at Chelsea"- Luiz is gone (thank god he went btw)

Mourinho : "Mata will stay at Chelsea"- Mata was sold aswell

After this I don't believe a word he says.

While those 'lies' make him looks 'genius' in the end. I can't see this will be that kind of lie. This will make Jose looks like a fool, not mentioning that all journos will ask him again and again next season if he is lie about it. So yes, hopefully this time his words (so many times) could be trusted.

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Zouma was not a worldwide star when we signed him.

Now with Varane and Laporte he is the best young Centre-Back for the next decade.

Sign young talents like Courtois or Zouma also is part of our policy of signings for young players.

Puyol Barcelona is a legend and he came to La Masia with 19 years ....

Sergio Ramos arrived at Real Madrid with 19 years for 30 million euros ...

Varane came to Real Madrid for a similar price as the price of Zouma.

....

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People talk about him the same way that they spoke of Chalobah and McEachran before them.

I believe the difference with RLC is the fact that the lad has had a man's body since he was 16. For example, he went toe-to-toe with Yaya in that friendly the other season and he wasn't phased in the slightest. In fact, there are occasions where both Yaya and Kompany got physical with the lad to stop his running. He is capable of becoming a strong runner from deep (similar to Essien, but probably more so to Mikel+speed) and I think José would love that in his squad.

See 0:55 and 1:39 for examples.

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For a hundred million times already, Jose said RLC will be our first team player next season.

Which is a vague statement and means shit. He'll be very probably riding the bench like first team players Ake and Baker did.

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Zouma was not a worldwide star when we signed him.

Now with Varane and Laporte he is the best young Centre-Back for the next decade.

Sign young talents like Courtois or Zouma also is part of our policy of signings for young players.

Puyol Barcelona is a legend and he came to La Masia with 19 years ....

Sergio Ramos arrived at Real Madrid with 19 years for 30 million euros ...

Varane came to Real Madrid for a similar price as the price of Zouma.

....

£12 million for 20 year old centre back and he is not a star ?! :clown:

I don't care about Zouma like Puyol, Ramos, Varane....

I care about RLC, Ake are "at same level as Puyol, Ramos, Varane"(wtf) and care about Mourinho, not Barca, Real's manager

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Which is a vague statement and means shit. He'll be very probably riding the bench like first team players Ake and Baker did.

Most likely, because Matic and Fabregas still around. Jose has said he will be a first team player though, not a starter.

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To be fair, Jose's words about RLC and Solanke are spot on.

http://www.chelseafc.com/news/latest-news/2015/04/mourinho--doing-everything-right.html?WT.mc_id=social_20150425_44665726&adbid=591961160775143424&adbpl=tw&adbpr=22910295&short_code=2vh13

It's always better when the player can develop while playing in friendly environment which can match his skills. So many of our loanees would look better if they had better technical players around.

I very much like this approach that in theory we want to develop players within. Finally, should I say. But I think that's not because of Jose expert view on the matter but rather whole bunch of people at Chelsea who see that loan system is broken, doesn't bring goods and they try different approach.

So far that just the words of course and they can very well mean nothing but change in pure approach is very positive. They don't want to throw away players to don't bother with the problem for the next 2-3 years, instead they try to keep the player and look on him and develop him on day to day in the club. I like this and it's utmost better than loan circus.

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