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BlueLion.

Kevin de Bruyne

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I am enjoying the discussion and tend to intervene but some historians know something about nuclear physics dude :)

I'm an historian myself and I accidently have a professor being passionated about physics too.

@ the moderators: sorry for going completely off topic, but I'm bored working in the archives and it's a strange experience to come to this forum and see a reference to historians

:clown:

on topic: of course Oscar has proven more for Chelsea than De Bruyne at this very moment, but Kevin will get his chance and he will prove what he's worth

Damned, I was hoping that was the less likely one. Didn't want to be insulting to someone :D Do you go the Ugent, or are you graduated, because i was thinking of changing from veterinary medicine to history

Ot: De bruyne said on twitter that he's feeling fine and he'll know the results tomorrow

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Damned, I was hoping that was the less likely one. Didn't want to be insulting to someone :D Do you go the Ugent, or are you graduated, because i was thinking of changing from veterinary medicine to history

Ot: De bruyne said on twitter that he's feeling fine and he'll know the results tomorrow

Well, actually i'm studying in Leuven, currently preparing for my doctorate, specialisation is Western European Medieval Christian History

I KNOW, that sounds really BORING to most people <_<

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Well, actually i'm studying in Leuven, currently preparing for my doctorate, specialisation is Western European Medieval Christian History

I KNOW, that sounds really BORING to most people <_<

NO it doesnt :-)

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juan and only??? :)

true, but I can't remember ever seeing a team with 2 #10s that worked out. It'll be interesting to see how Mata and KDB/Oscar play together.
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They really are not. 2/3 of all teams in the bundesliga are championship level ...just with less money.

I strongly doubt he will be one of the best in the world. he will be a really good footballer. But what position will he become the best in the world ? CM? surely not, does not have the defensive abilites at all. Wing? Too slow. CAM? Not even close to being as creative as Mata or Oscar...

I'm not going to get into the De Bruyne vs. Oscar discussion (time will tell) but I do want to say that quite a lot of people here underestimate the strength of the bundesliga and overestimate the EPL quite a bit. I'm definitely with Stingray on this one. "2/3 of all teams in the bundesliga are championship level"....I mean....championship right? Seriously? That sounds really unworldly.

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Hazard.xxx.Mata

That middle will be between Oscar and KDB I think. When you think about it, Mata spent most of his time on the right.

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true, but I can't remember ever seeing a team with 2 #10s that worked out. It'll be interesting to see how Mata and KDB/Oscar play together.

the possibilities are mind-boggling... but all we have to do is trust JOSE.

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I'm not going to get into the De Bruyne vs. Oscar discussion (time will tell) but I do want to say that quite a lot of people here underestimate the strength of the bundesliga and overestimate the EPL quite a bit. I'm definitely with Stingray on this one. "2/3 of all teams in the bundesliga are championship level"....I mean....championship right? Seriously? That sounds really unworldly.

Bundesliga has Bayern, one of the best teams in the world due to unique advantages due to corruption, then there is a big gap to Dortmund and then there is a huuuuuuuuge gap to Leverkusen and Schalke and maybe Stuttgart and then there is an even huger gap to all other teams. Teams like Hoffenheim, Freiburg, Augsuburg, Fürth, Bochum, Köln and whatever shit are just unworldly underwhelming. They do not even try. It is a mircale BAyern fuck it up every other season even though their squad and their budget is 100 times that of most teams in the league. The bundesliga apart form its top teams, just like La liga is utter shit. that is mainly because Bundesliga does not even get a fraction of the TV money English clubs get. The richer German clubs compete with English bottom5 clubs for players on the transfer market. As long as this stays so, Bundesliga will never have consistent success. BVB adn Bayern were great last season, but that was an unique situation with them being lucky BArcelona were out of form and without Messi and REal and Mourinho fucked it up. Won't happen again.

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Yeah i take that point. But I don't want this to become an oscar vs KDB thing. They are both great players which we are very lucky to have.

If mata is moved to the right (which doesn't make great sense to me, but i trust Mourinho's judgement and he knows far better than me), then yes I would probably slot oscar into the CAM role right now.

But if he doesn't move mata which I definitely wouldn't of then, KDB imo is the best option we have for the right hand side, Becuase of the reasons I mentioned (right footed, great delivery, set pieces, can still cut inside to link up with mata, work-rate etc.)

Whatever happens it's a good problem to have.

Yeah, but Mourinho already said he prefers wrong-footed players in the wings. So he wants a leftie in the right wing - which is why he's thinking of moving Mata there as he's the only leftie in the five

I agree the comparison doesn't make sense. To play the amount of matches we do and also the different kind of opposition is amazing to have two guys that are amazing and promising playing as attacking midfielders, but bringing completely two different games. It's win-win. Some matches will fit more Kevin others Oscar. Even matches can become tough and changing the style and formation could solve.

So I don't mind if Kevin starts more often, or if Oscar does, if they're on top of their form they will probably play other matches, being subbed or coming from the bench and maybe together at the same time in the team.

I don't see either threatening Mata though, not only because of style, but mainly because how can the arguably best player last season (as many considered Hazard the best) just leave the team for a guy that hasn't played one official Chelsea match in EPL or CL?

I think Mourinho is lucky for having so many alternatives, but I also wouldn't like to be on his shoes, because choosing between those guys is going to be difficult, supposing they will live their potential - all things considered such as adaptation, possibility of injuries, etc..

I still think Hazard will be the guy this season - but that definitely doesn't come from his two matches in the pre-season. He was far from what I expect. But then again this is pre-season and Eden is a lot like myself. Friendlies aren't his thing :P

But I welcome Kevin's maturity and he alternative he offers.

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Bundesliga has Bayern, one of the best teams in the world due to unique advantages due to corruption, then there is a big gap to Dortmund and then there is a huuuuuuuuge gap to Leverkusen and Schalke and maybe Stuttgart and then there is an even huger gap to all other teams. Teams like Hoffenheim, Freiburg, Augsuburg, Fürth, Bochum, Köln and whatever shit are just unworldly underwhelming. They do not even try. It is a mircale BAyern fuck it up every other season even though their squad and their budget is 100 times that of most teams in the league. The bundesliga apart form its top teams, just like La liga is utter shit. that is mainly because Bundesliga does not even get a fraction of the TV money English clubs get. The richer German clubs compete with English bottom5 clubs for players on the transfer market. As long as this stays so, Bundesliga will never have consistent success. BVB adn Bayern were great last season, but that was an unique situation with them being lucky BArcelona were out of form and without Messi and REal and Mourinho fucked it up. Won't happen again.

how are bayern corrupt? And even with messi, barca had no chance.

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how are bayern corrupt? And even with messi, barca had no chance.

messi was injured and/or out of form

And it is common knowledge Bayern's dominance is built on 40 years of tax dodging and illegal donations (mostly by the Bavarian government). Of all federal countries Bavaria enjoy the most sovereignity and they think they are better than other federal countries. Hence FC bayern has been a prestige project of the government, making it as easy for them as possible. Bavarian MPs such as Strauß, Stoiber and Seehofer have had a personal attachment to FC BAyern, too, funding them with official events financed by public money. As much as the Spanish government funds Reals and BArcas success with this crazy tax rule, Bavaria funds BAyern, with the difference being they actually can afford it.

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messi was injured and/or out of form

And it is common knowledge Bayern's dominance is built on 40 years of tax dodging and illegal donations (mostly by the Bavarian government). Of all federal countries Bavaria enjoy the most sovereignity and they think they are better than other federal countries. Hence FC bayern has been a prestige project of the government, making it as easy for them as possible. Bavarian MPs such as Strauß, Stoiber and Seehofer have had a personal attachment to FC BAyern, too, funding them with official events financed by public money. As much as the Spanish government funds Reals and BArcas success with this crazy tax rule, Bavaria funds BAyern, with the difference being they actually can afford it.

oh, so they have money, that not really corruption we should worry about. It's not like Bayern spend more money than any other top team.

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oh, so they have money, that not really corruption we should worry about. It's not like Bayern spend more money than any other top team.

They got a competitive advantage due to corruption. Also you never know if s.o. is prepared to take black money, they may also be prepared to spend it to buy the refs/uefa, who are corrupt as well.

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ANYWAY, BACK TO DE BRUYNE...

I don't think we'll see him again on this tour. A couple of weeks of light rehab and he should be fine for the start of the new season though. Thank God.

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