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Arsenal not interested according to the Telegraph.

Such a shit report.... There are no direct quotes from ANY Arsenal representative saying they don't want him. But they just assume Arsenal don't want Fabregas even though, they have a deal with Barcelona that says, if any team bids for Fabregas, Arsenal get they option of matching that offer and only if they don't want to match that offer will they Fabregas be sold.

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Well if both SkyNigeria and Barca Israel are running with it then it's only a matter of time.

Let's do a Wenger and bid £1 over 33m so they can get 50p for us acquiring their 'legend'.

As you can tell from my OP i have never been his biggest fan but I couldn't stand Cole when he was at Arsenal (and given he grew up as a gooner i doubt his feelings for Chelsea were particularly ple

Such a shit report.... There are no direct quotes from ANY Arsenal representative saying they don't want him. But they just assume Arsenal don't want Fabregas even though, they have a deal with Barcelona that says, if any team bids for Fabregas, Arsenal get they option of matching that offer and only if they don't want to match that offer will they Fabregas be sold.

It's the Telegraph. They're pretty reliable. They were also the first paper to break the news that Fabregas is available for £30m to begin with.
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It's the Telegraph. They're pretty reliable. They were also the first paper to break the news that Fabregas is available for £30m to begin with.

When is there ever direct quotes? The Telegraph are reliable and have sources.

I won't believe that Arsenal are out of the race for Cesc just yet my friend. I'm pretty sure they will have a say in where he goes if he comes to England.

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I don't know pal. I think you're overestimating how defensive Mourinho is trying to set us up. We'll truly see his set up this upcoming season. Don't forget Mourinho himself admitted to changing the initial system he wanted to implement to a more conservative one because the team wasn't ready, hence why he kept repeatedly saying we weren't in the title race.

I still think Fabregas would fit into the system Mourinho I think is trying to implement here, simply because a midfield tandem of Oscar, Fabregas and Matic would be very balanced for the majority of the games we're going to play. We aren't always going to play that three of course but Mourinho likes to have different options and Cesc gives him exactly that. We will still have the quick defence to attack transition and Fab would add to that because he's a very good direct passer of the ball (something we never see at Barca because they don't allow it) which people forget.

What you're essentially saying is that Mou wants more power in midfield than finesse (just like how you don't believe we'll sign Kroos or Rakitic, which is fair enough) but I personally think Mou likes options. If we want power in midfield we can play a pivot of Ramires and Matic instead but if we need to score goals and dominate a match, which we are very capable of, Fabregas next to Matic would be ideal.

I'm not saying it'll happen but if it did it would be a very good signing IMO. It makes a lot of sense in my head because of the price tag and the fact that he should help fix one of our major problems of the 13/14 season. We can agree to disagree of course but all I'm saying is don't completely dismiss the idea of a player in the ilk of Kroos, Rakitic or Fabregas just yet.

I don't think I'm overestimating it at all. We created a lot of goalscoring opportunities that never quite got finished. We had the capability to be a very good team even with the same philosophy that has been implemented. A striker is the number one need after that a deeper CM who can play in the pivot next to Matic. Do you think Jose changed his style because we didn't attack well or because the way we were playing left us exposed at the back? I think it was because we were leaking too many goals to shit teams.

I think what's happening here is you think I don't want a player like Modric, Rakitic, Kroos or Oscar to play in the deep mid, I do! I just don't see any of those players as viable options in Jose's system. I know what you think but never before has Jose played a traditional 10 in the holding role. Beyond that the tweak I've seen in Jose's tactics from years past is the pace. When we're at our best we are winning the ball high up the pitch with pressure from every member of the team. With Cesc in that system we lose pace and also ball winning ability. Jose needs people who work hard on both sides of the ball to get it back and to keep it. Ramires is the closest thing we have to the type of player Jose needs in the centre of the pitch next to Matic. He is fast, wins the ball, breaks up counters and is capable to run down attackers should we lose the ball, what he can't do is recycle possession and pick a pass.

And no I'm not saying Jose wants more power than finesse, what I'm saying is we need a guy capable of providing both. Versatility. Someone like Michael Ballack is a Jose Mourinho type player, Essien in his prime. I can't see Jose switching this need because he knows when he gets it his sides are nearly unbeatable. Jose is a very rigid manager and having someone like Cesc who likes to get forward and doesn't really possess defensive awareness or is capable to snuff out danger would drive him mad. I'm only going on what I've seen, if you think Jose is ready to change you're more than entitled to your opinion I just won't be endorsing it. Oscar would make more sense in the pivot if we were looking to go that route because he can win balls and can pick a pass. Jose won't play him there because he's lightweight.

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I remember when we were linked to Suarez (who is a far bigger cunt than Fabregas. He bit one of our player and then scored in that same game ffs) and a lot of people said they'd like it if he came. But now people are saying we don't want Fabregas cuz he's a cunt..... :blink:

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I remember when we were linked to Suarez (who is a far bigger cunt than Fabregas. He bit one of our player and then scored in that same game ffs) and a lot of people said they'd like it if he came. But now people are saying we don't want Fabregas cuz he's a cunt..... :blink:

A lot of people say our team is lacking a cunt, hence why they like Costa :D

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Imagine Lamps leaving and Fabregas taking the no.8 shirt. A part of me would die.

I know...... :fainthv9:

BUT, Now that David Luiz has left, the #4 kit is vacant. So if anything he'll take that. Maybe even a cheeky attempt at knickin the #10 from Eden

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I know...... :fainthv9:

BUT, Now that David Luiz has left, the #4 kit is vacant. So if anything he'll take that. Maybe even a cheeky attempt at knickin the #10 from Eden

Don't ever say that again. Hazard is 10.

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Well we need LOT of creativity. We sold creators Mata and KDB and it looks Oscar will have to take big step forward if he wants to create more (and be more consistent). The only option is to either replace Oscar or hope he gets back in form (by that I mean creating for others, not just scoring on his own). And plan C is to get top quality CM/playmaker ala Fabregas. Modric, Gundogan would be better but I dont see them comming for obvious reasons, while Kroos wont fit us and Rakitic is more CAM than CM (IMO). Pogba can be creative too, but he is going to be extremely expensive.

I would personaly love to see

Azpi-Cahill-Terry-LB

Cesc-Matic-Oscar

Willian-ST-Hazard

I think Oscar was never truly #10 under Mou to begin with (he goes too deep, defends alot and doesnt create enough), meaning he actualy is suited to play 4:3:3 And Matic as well Cesc (or any other creative CM) would fit into 4:3:3 more than in double pivot. But as soon our game will be bit more open, I can see some weaknesses in defence (Terry not young and fast anymore, Cahill cant put good long balls,...).

Rodriguez (20), Cesc (30), Costa/Dzeko (20-35) and possibly Varane (25) would be easy affordable now in terms of money, question is if Mou wants them and they want Chelsea.

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Well we need LOT of creativity. We sold creators Mata and KDB and it looks Oscar will have to take big step forward if he wants to create more (and be more consistent). The only option is to either replace Oscar or hope he gets back in form (by that I mean creating for others, not just scoring on his own). And plan C is to get top quality CM/playmaker ala Fabregas. Modric, Gundogan would be better but I dont see them comming for obvious reasons, while Kroos wont fit us and Rakitic is more CAM than CM (IMO). Pogba can be creative too, but he is going to be extremely expensive.

I would personaly love to see

Azpi-Cahill-Terry-LB

Cesc-Matic-Oscar

Willian-ST-Hazard

I think Oscar was never truly #10 under Mou to begin with (he goes too deep, defends alot and doesnt create enough), meaning he actualy is suited to play 4:3:3 And Matic as well Cesc (or any other creative CM) would fit into 4:3:3 more than in double pivot. But as soon our game will be bit more open, I can see some weaknesses in defence (Terry not young and fast anymore, Cahill cant put good long balls,...).

Rodriguez (20), Cesc (30), Costa/Dzeko (20-35) and possibly Varane (25) would be easy affordable now in terms of money, question is if Mou wants them and they want Chelsea.

If you believe media, we could easily spend over 150m this summer and still be at a profit. Fabregas, Costa, Shaw and Varane could all be brought here for much less than that; would be remarkable business.

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Well we need LOT of creativity. We sold creators Mata and KDB and it looks Oscar will have to take big step forward if he wants to create more (and be more consistent). The only option is to either replace Oscar or hope he gets back in form (by that I mean creating for others, not just scoring on his own). And plan C is to get top quality CM/playmaker ala Fabregas. Modric, Gundogan would be better but I dont see them comming for obvious reasons, while Kroos wont fit us and Rakitic is more CAM than CM (IMO). Pogba can be creative too, but he is going to be extremely expensive.

I would personaly love to see

Azpi-Cahill-Terry-LB

Cesc-Matic-Oscar

Willian-ST-Hazard

I think Oscar was never truly #10 under Mou to begin with (he goes too deep, defends alot and doesnt create enough), meaning he actualy is suited to play 4:3:3 And Matic as well Cesc (or any other creative CM) would fit into 4:3:3 more than in double pivot. But as soon our game will be bit more open, I can see some weaknesses in defence (Terry not young and fast anymore, Cahill cant put good long balls,...).

Rodriguez (20), Cesc (30), Costa/Dzeko (20-35) and possibly Varane (25) would be easy affordable now in terms of money, question is if Mou wants them and they want Chelsea.

We don't need a lot. We have loads of creation and no end product. Between Oscar, Willian, Hazard, Salah, Schurrle we should have enough to create scoring if you have a striker capable of finishing. Were we not 4pts off the title and a game from the finals in Europe with no striker and a banged up Hazard?

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