Official - Carlo sacked

[spuz 143]

Good post. He is a very poor manager and it's being exposed with every passing week.

I get the feeling it's as though Mourinho's team is gradually dwindling away. When Grant,Scolari and now Carlo came in they changed nothing. It was a case of inheriting Mourinho's winning team and not bother changing anything. Now I feel we're seing Carlo's team,and if it's half as bad as his Milan team that used to finish 5th in serie A then I'm not liking it.

When was the last time he changed something in a game? Apart from Fereira for Bos. (today it was Luiz for Bos,might be his new supersub).Then came Kalou for new £50m striker with a point to prove but was getting no service. It will never get better. Carlo peaked last season and won't win the league again at this rate.

[eldo 868]

How fickle to say that last season's double was only luck.

You can only beat what is in front of you. It is not his fault that Stoke defeated City, or Portsmouth defeated Spurs.

We deservedly won it. Carlo did a fantastic job to guide that team, this season team is a little bit different.

[Joe Cool 388]

This is ridiculous. It took SAF 6-8 years to win the league when he managed Manchester United. Do you think they would be half the club they are at the moment had the board decided to sack him? No, they were patient, and as we can see, they're one of the biggest clubs in Europe. CA's already won the league in his debut season, and there's potential for plenty more, but some years we're not going to win, that's just the truth.

I have to say, us fans have become spoilt over the years. How are we ever going to come close to winning a lot of trophies if we keep sacking our managers for mediocre runs?

[Peace. 4,352]

Right now I don't know about Carlo... But what I know, is that we have to get ride of the players who don't move their fat ass on the pitch. They could be legends or not, I don't give a God damn fuck. All I want is some players who run...

[spuz 143]

How fickle to say that last season's double was only luck.

You can only beat what is in front of you. It is not his fault that Stoke defeated City, or Portsmouth defeated Spurs.

We deservedly won it. Carlo did a fantastic job to guide that team, this season team is a little bit different.

No it's not fickle. Look up the word fickle. Of course it reqires luck.We had to go to Liverpool away and win,despite beating all the other top 4 twice we scraped it.It could have easily gone the other way. Just like this season it will definately go the other way.

We've not improved on last year,we're now definately going to finish with a lower points total even if we somehow won all of our remaining games.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

This is ridiculous. It took SAF 6-8 years to win the league when he managed Manchester United. Do you think they would be half the club they are at the moment had the board decided to sack him? No, they were patient, and as we can see, they're one of the biggest clubs in Europe. CA's already won the league in his debut season, and there's potential for plenty more, but some years we're not going to win, that's just the truth.

I have to say, us fans have become spoilt over the years. How are we ever going to come close to winning a lot of trophies if we keep sacking our managers for mediocre runs?

:clap:

[Ollie 4,400]

Not this again...

He will get it right, it may not be instant like instant coffee or boil in a bag rice but ffs it will all come together soon and when everyones firing and fit and we have the right system, we'll be unstoppable.

4-4-2

Cech

Ivanovic - Luiz - Terry - Cole

Malouda - Essien - Lampard - Anelka/whoever

Torres - Drogba

It needs to be done to get everyone in the game. 4-4-2 is the solution!

[Kojo 4,676]

This is ridiculous. It took SAF 6-8 years to win the league when he managed Manchester United. Do you think they would be half the club they are at the moment had the board decided to sack him? No, they were patient, and as we can see, they're one of the biggest clubs in Europe. CA's already won the league in his debut season, and there's potential for plenty more, but some years we're not going to win, that's just the truth.

I have to say, us fans have become spoilt over the years. How are we ever going to come close to winning a lot of trophies if we keep sacking our managers for mediocre runs?

:goodpost: This is exactly what i stick by.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

It needs to be done to get everyone in the game. 4-4-2 is the solution!

I still maintain, Mikel is pivotal.

He wasn't as good today because of that atrocious booking he got in the 30th second of the match! So he had to play as risk free as possible, which meant he couldn't commit as much.

[spuz 143]

Right now I don't know about Carlo... But what I know, is that we have to get ride of the players who don't move their fat ass on the pitch. They could be legends or not, I don't give a God damn fuck. All I want is some players who run...

But that's Carlo's job,and therein lies the problem. How many times have underperformers got away withit this year? Fergie has no hesitation in pulling off Rooney if he think's he's been shit,If only Carlo had some of that bottle and knowhow.

This is ridiculous. It took SAF 6-8 years to win the league when he managed Manchester United. Do you think they would be half the club they are at the moment had the board decided to sack him? No, they were patient, and as we can see, they're one of the biggest clubs in Europe. CA's already won the league in his debut season, and there's potential for plenty more, but some years we're not going to win, that's just the truth.

I have to say, us fans have become spoilt over the years. How are we ever going to come close to winning a lot of trophies if we keep sacking our managers for mediocre runs?

We sacked Ranieri and won our first league title under Jose.We sacked Scolari and then won the double under Carlo.

[J.F. 1,484]

This is ridiculous. It took SAF 6-8 years to win the league when he managed Manchester United. Do you think they would be half the club they are at the moment had the board decided to sack him? No, they were patient, and as we can see, they're one of the biggest clubs in Europe. CA's already won the league in his debut season, and there's potential for plenty more, but some years we're not going to win, that's just the truth.

I have to say, us fans have become spoilt over the years. How are we ever going to come close to winning a lot of trophies if we keep sacking our managers for mediocre runs?

[BlueLion. 21,491]

I knew it would only take one more defeat for these posts to return.

This is purely down to hypocritical double standards. We criticise Liverpool supporters for being fickle over the Torres transfer, but as soon as we lose a game, the doubters crawl out of the woodwork and spout nothing but the same old recycle jargon, before retreating when the results match their expectations. Frankly, its boring.

Carlo is a great manager; a manager who won us the Double last season. Chelsea are an ageing team and a transitional season such as this has been inevitable for some time. It would have occurred under Scolari in 2008/09, but instead of being patient and accepting that eventually there would be a period where Chelsea would stop contesting for trophies temporarily, the club sought to postpone judgement day and bring in Hiddink. Sure, Guus did phenomenally way and restored the faith, but the cynics calling for Ancelotti's head are really beyond me. Although you might fancy yourself as a Premier League manager, citing your Football Manager and FIFA career mode credentials, the fact of the matter is that coaching is no easy job. Ancelotti is still learning and adapting to the English game. Couple that with the fact he had an ageing squad of underperforming players, and I'm sure any level-headed supporter can see how difficult it is to churn out satisfactory results as well as winning games.

It is attitudes like this that make me think that success has spoilt some of this club's supporters.

We do not have a right to challenge for trophies, and we cannot hope to go on without going through periods of rebuilding. Look at Manchester United. In the long-term, a bit of continuity has not hurt them in the slightest. Similarly, the rebuilding the underwent between 2004 and 2006 saw them buy and nurture young footballing talent like Rooney, Ronaldo, Evra and Vidic, and compliment it with the experience of the likes of van der Sar, Ryan Giggs, Paul Scholes and Gary Neville. And now they are odds-on to win the Premier League for the fourth time in seven seasons.

We are in a similar phase currently at Chelsea. We have the experienced figures and we have the youthful potential in players like Joshua McEachran, Daniel Sturridge and even players like Ramires and David Luiz who are already established internationals who have yet to reach their peak potential. This period we are going through is inevitable, and it can only be postponed so much. Last year, we managed to win the title by a single point - admittedly we should have perhaps won it by a greater margin, but the players are older. More experienced, yes, but nowhere near their peak physical condition. Even Lampard, with his various injury problems, does not look the player who scored 27 goals last season and recorded 19 assists. Look at Drogba, whose bout of malaria is testament to the fact we are reliant on 32-33 year-old footballers who must be replaced - very soon.

Sacking the manager will get a short-term reaction out of the players. Maybe another 6-18 months before the rot sets in again. On the other hand, sticking with Carlo and letting him build something will see us grow and develop sustainably and continue to be a force in both the Premier League and the Champions League.

And as far as I'm concerned, people who cannot see that simply do not see the game of football as I do.

The comparisons between Ancelotti and Mourinho need to stop, too. Mourinho was a manager who is designed to have a short-term impact. Not to build anything. Granted, the vast majority of our squad's core - the Drogbas, Cechs and Coles and so on - were brought in under his tenure, the Lampards and Terrys of this world were here before him. And they are here after him, as well. Regardless of what Mourinho did, he was a short-term option intended to come in and make an impact; not to build for the future and settle down like Wenger of Ferguson and mentor a generation or two. But to come, win everything, and leave. That is Mourinho's way. Ancelotti fits in with the Ferguson blueprint - and I guarantee, give him time, and he will deliver.

We sacked Ranieri and won our first league title under Jose. We sacked Scolari and then won the double under Carlo.

So your theory is to bring in managers, sack them, hope the next one wins something and then sack them as well? That fits in brilliantly with the long-term aims of the club, you should be on our board.

[spuz 143]

People.It's not just one defeat though is it?

It's not just a case of one game where we've looked toothless is it?

Last season,was last season. As we keep saying to scousers,history is all in the past. It's about the now and future.

[zolayes 14,489]

Carlo bought the wrong striker ...I would have bought Messi ,,,,this manager game is so easy

[chrismada9 1,948]

Seriously, how can you want Carlo Ancelotti out??

What are we going to chop and change managers every time we have a bad run!?? I say NO to that and at least give Carlo a chance. After all, it's the players on the pitch that aren't delivering, not the manager. Think about it... the manager who won us a double last year, and you want him out because a few months of a bad run!!

For those who want Carlo out, I'm not having a dig, but get some common sense... as for me, I'm backing Carlo 100%

Keep the faith lads!!

[MetsajCFC 1,255]

This is ridiculous. It took SAF 6-8 years to win the league when he managed Manchester United. Do you think they would be half the club they are at the moment had the board decided to sack him? No, they were patient, and as we can see, they're one of the biggest clubs in Europe. CA's already won the league in his debut season, and there's potential for plenty more, but some years we're not going to win, that's just the truth.

I have to say, us fans have become spoilt over the years. How are we ever going to come close to winning a lot of trophies if we keep sacking our managers for mediocre runs?

Spot on... hopefully more rebellious fans will understand this also . +1

[spuz 143]

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So your theory is to bring in managers, sack them, hope the next one wins something and then sack them as well? That fits in brilliantly with the long-term aims of the club, you should be on our board.

No. Keep Carlo and let him finish us outside the top 4 despite having the best team in the league. Then just hope he can do better next season.

Proving a point that sacking a manager isn't always a bad thing though.

[eldo 868]

No it's not fickle. Look up the word fickle. Of course it reqires luck.We had to go to Liverpool away and win,despite beating all the other top 4 twice we scraped it.It could have easily gone the other way. Just like this season it will definately go the other way.

We've not improved on last year,we're now definately going to finish with a lower points total even if we somehow won all of our remaining games.

You know how many times teams have to win deciding games.

We are changing our team a bit. This is not quite the same team like last season's. Notice how Bayern are doing the same and thing aren't rosy for them too.