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He's an excellent footballer and disgustingly underrated. Just needs a capable partner, can't expect Lamps to be as consistent as he once was at his age.

Oscar looked good playing alongside him towards the last 20-30 minutes.

Van Ginkel is a beast defensively but his passing is still inconsistent.

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Nice shot of that sublime chip.  

Definitely think we're a better team with Ramires in the side. His desire and effort is absolutely infectious. Seeing a player give his all is the fastest way into the hearts of supporters. He also se

I would say he is UNDER RATED by you

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He's an excellent footballer and disgustingly overrated. Just needs a capable partner, can't expect Lamps to be as consistent as he once was at his age.

Oscar looked good playing alongside him towards the last 20-30 minutes.

Van Ginkel is a beast defensively but his passing is still inconsistent.

Well... Why?

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He's an excellent footballer and disgustingly overrated. Just needs a capable partner, can't expect Lamps to be as consistent as he once was at his age.

Oscar looked good playing alongside him towards the last 20-30 minutes.

Van Ginkel is a beast defensively but his passing is still inconsistent.

Did you mean disgustingly underrated?

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That was Mikelesque passing game from Ramires yesterday.

Always taking the safest option and hence no penetration.

If it were not for his defensive contribution, I would have been furious with his performance yesterday.

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One of the few players that were actually good yesterday (along with JT and Cech). He was excellent on the ball. Off the ball I thought he could have been a bit better. He got turned a bit too easily in midfield a couple of times and he late to track the runner in a couple of occasions as well. But overall he's doing that holding role much better than I expected. But I still prefer by some distance his contribution as a box-to-box midfielder.

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Makelele was much better in terms of pace, Ramires is more agressive, Makelele barely tried to shoot. I think they are two completely different animals.

I agree on the shooting part and maybe Claude's distribution was a little bit faster, but in terms of pace I don't know which played in our midfield, current or past, matched Rami

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Great to see that people are finally starting to really rate this guy. It was criminal how underrated he was by our fans.

This x100! Remember having to defend him to the hilt last season on here with you. Forgot who it was, but I remember somebody saying Chalobah was already better than him :fainthv9:

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He was very bad yesterday, really didn't help us keep the ball.

Ramires lacks a lot of composure, he's not very the on the ball, he worries me every time he's holding it, especially when there are players around him. I wish Mikel played yesterday instead of him and that's saying something. He may be good at winning the ball back and running around but his first touch and ball control in general is poor.

He had a good game against Villa but near the end he almost fucked us over with one of the doggiest back to the keeper passes I've seen in a while. Almost played it perfectly in for Benteke to equalize 2-2 with about 7 minutes to go including the 5 minutes stoppage time.

You may all think he's underrated, but for me he's not a starter, as I've always said we need a player for him to rotate with because he lacks technical ability to play in the pivot, it's that bad that it's costing us.

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He can't play the holding midfielder role against a team like Manchester. And we're only figuring this out now?!

You need a genuine holding midfielder if you're going to play 4-2-3-1 and challenge for the title and Ramires is not one.

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A tough one last night. Worked fantastically hard in defence and put in some fantastic tackles but couldn't find a pass at all for much of the game. I've criticised him for that before, but this was a bit of an aberration for him considering his recent form and he wasn't the only player who struggled with basic 5 yard passes.

Needs to improve but still an important player for us, and it's early days for this team.

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I think I'd rather have his 50-50 qualities rather than the holding midfielder ones.

Agreed, Jose is trying to turn Ramires from Essien into Mikel. I don't like that, in these 3 matches did he even made a run at goal or just passed and stay back?

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Agreed, Jose is trying to turn Ramires from Essien into Mikel. I don't like that, in these 3 matches did he even made a run at goal or just passed and stay back?

Well he did a pretty good job against Hull and Villa IMO, but he can't do that against United.

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Jose pushed him forward once Mikel came on. It's just with Lamps it's seems he becomes the holding mid. With MVG in preseason he wasn't the holder either. It's only when he's paired up with Lamps because Jose knows he'd get more defensively from Rami. Anyone other than Lamps as his partner and he wouldn't be the holding mid.

So really the mistake was playing Lamps which was compounded by in turn leaving Rami as the holder.

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He can't play the holding midfielder role against a team like Manchester. And we're only figuring this out now?!

You need a genuine holding midfielder if you're going to play 4-2-3-1 and challenge for the title and Ramires is not one.

Don't undermine me

I didn't say that we need a holding midfielder, I said that Ramires needed to do a lot better against United because he was very poor.

He couldn't string a pass together, and Mikel isn't going to do a lot of help either if you think that's what's going to happen. There's a reason this so called vital player to the squad has only just managed to make a 5 minute appearance.

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Agreed, Jose is trying to turn Ramires from Essien into Mikel. I don't like that, in these 3 matches did he even made a run at goal or just passed and stay back?

There's a reason for that and that is that the system we are playing requires a holding midfielder. I agree though that it should not be Ramires because he offers so much more as a box-to-box midfielder.

Don't undermine me

I didn't say that we need a holding midfielder, I said that Ramires needed to do a lot better against United because he was very poor.

He couldn't string a pass together, and Mikel isn't going to do a lot of help either if you think that's what's going to happen. There's a reason this so called vital player to the squad has only just managed to make a 5 minute appearance.

No but I am saying that.

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He was very bad yesterday, really didn't help us keep the ball.

Ramires lacks a lot of composure, he's not very the on the ball, he worries me every time he's holding it, especially when there are players around him. I wish Mikel played yesterday instead of him and that's saying something. He may be good at winning the ball back and running around but his first touch and ball control in general is poor.

He had a good game against Villa but near the end he almost fucked us over with one of the doggiest back to the keeper passes I've seen in a while. Almost played it perfectly in for Benteke to equalize 2-2 with about 7 minutes to go including the 5 minutes stoppage time.

You may all think he's underrated, but for me he's not a starter, as I've always said we need a player for him to rotate with because he lacks technical ability to play in the pivot, it's that bad that it's costing us.

I fully agree. Midfield is just too weak to be a genuine contender for the league title. Sure they can win a ball back but then what happens...

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