Chelsea Transfers

[ZAPHOD2319 1,990]

 

[LAM09 5,992]

7 hours ago, Strike said:

Don't see Boehly, Tuchel and co being the type to sign glamour players. The rumoured list of targets are all a coach's dream worker types -Rice, Sterling, Jesus, Raphinha

I'm all for that. We want players that play for the collective rather than themselves.  

3 hours ago, Pizy said:

Raphinha is basically a more athletic and direct Ziyech. A left footer who plays on the right. He is great at just getting the ball and taking on defenders. And he’s got the same sort of wand like delivery as Hakim. A player who can also shoot a bunch from long distance which many of our attacking players recently have been allergic to. Another positive is that he knows the league and won’t need time to settle to the pace of the game. Especially coming from a Leeds side who play balls to the wall, ridiculously fast paced football.

I'm slightly surprised that people are so keen on this transfer but see Richarlison as a dire move. Also, the same individuals are happy to see us go for his Brazilian understudy (Jesus) too.

At £50-60m for either, it shouldn't be hard to choose IMO.

Edited Wednesday at 12:49 by LAM09

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22 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

I'm all for that. We want players that play for the collective rather than themselves.  

I'm slightly surprised that people are so keen on this transfer but see Richarlison as a dire move. Also, the same individuals are happy to see us go for his Brazilian understudy (Jesus) too.

At £50-60m for either, it shouldn't be hard to choose IMO.

Other than his work rate, Richarlison doesn’t really do anything that well. Other than throw himself to the ground and act like a bastard. He’s not a prolific goal scorer, he’s not that quick, he’s merely okay with the ball at his feet, he’s not a towering presence in the air. If we signed him would he do a decent job? Probably. But I don’t think he’s good enough to elevate us to title contenders.

Raphinha is much more exciting. He’s got an amazing left foot and is extremely exciting in the ball. He’s already one of the best wide players in the PL and should only get better in a stronger team.

[DDA 8,029]

15 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Other than his work rate, Richarlison doesn’t really do anything that well. Other than throw himself to the ground and act like a bastard. He’s not a prolific goal scorer, he’s not that quick, he’s merely okay with the ball at his feet, he’s not a towering presence in the air. If we signed him would he do a decent job? Probably. But I don’t think he’s good enough to elevate us to title contenders.

Raphinha is much more exciting. He’s got an amazing left foot and is extremely exciting in the ball. He’s already one of the best wide players in the PL and should only get better in a stronger team.

Raphiniha is almost a carbon copy of Ziyech but a little fatser. I really don't see the point in getting him.

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5 minutes ago, DDA said:

Raphiniha is almost a carbon copy of Ziyech but a little fatser. I really don't see the point in getting him.

Very, very similar skill set but in a bigger, more athletic frame. Ziyech is so skinny and weak that he always gets pushed around. 

[Fernando 6,148]

I do want Raphinha. 

Richarlison I'm on the side, but I acknowledge he is good. 

If we go for both then we will going more of the same route where we play with false strikers like we are doing with Kai. 

I actually like that because it gives us a good balance and makes us more harder to play against especially in the CL.

[LAM09 5,992]

33 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Other than his work rate, Richarlison doesn’t really do anything that well. Other than throw himself to the ground and act like a bastard. He’s not a prolific goal scorer, he’s not that quick, he’s merely okay with the ball at his feet, he’s not a towering presence in the air. If we signed him would he do a decent job? Probably. But I don’t think he’s good enough to elevate us to title contenders.

Raphinha is much more exciting. He’s got an amazing left foot and is extremely exciting in the ball. He’s already one of the best wide players in the PL and should only get better in a stronger team.

I'm just stating which I'd prefer. However, in all fairness, neither will elevate us to title contenders. We should be solely targeting the best players available within our reach, not ones that are doing their bit for relegation sides or fifth choices for the sides we have ambitions of catching.

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26 minutes ago, DDA said:

Raphiniha is almost a carbon copy of Ziyech but a little fatser. I really don't see the point in getting him.

 

20 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Very, very similar skill set but in a bigger, more athletic frame. Ziyech is so skinny and weak that he always gets pushed around. 

exactly, is that not the point? Ziyech's problem is that he is frail, weak and slow. He has great technique and those mean whipped in balls are a real danger, he just can't get them in often enough bc he is so easy to bully off the ball and can't beat players.

Ideally we would get rid of Timo, Hakim and get all three Sterling, Raphinha and Dembele. All three are completely different in style but are very fast, great on the ball and have output which is more than can be expected of our current crop.

[whats happening 1,201]

gnabry would be the best option. he's not that expensive either. but it looks like he does not want to come here or our people are not interested in him for some reason.

[Clockwork 1,480]

15 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

It sounds like Boehly stepped in and put this to rest.

 

 

I don’t think this is true, Matt Law said Lukaku was not wanting to stay, Tuchel would have give him another opportunity if he was committed. 
 

 

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10 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

I don’t think this is true, Matt Law said Lukaku was not wanting to stay, Tuchel would have give him another opportunity if he was committed. 
 

 

I think Marina would have held out for more from Inter and didn’t care if Lukaku was forced to stay. That could have been terrible for us going forward as far as team building and distractions. 
 

At the end of the day, we will probably never know the finer details.

[whats happening 1,201]

14 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

I think Marina would have held out for more from Inter and didn’t care if Lukaku was forced to stay. That could have been terrible for us going forward as far as team building and distractions. 

this makes sense, knowing how she operated

[ZAPHOD2319 1,990]

I hope he is given a serious roll and stays.

 

[Blues Forever 1,010]

Barcelona currently doesn’t want to pay €60m for Kounde. They hope to bring down Sevilla’s asking price. There is still no offer either, because the economic levers must be activated first.

Edited Wednesday at 16:14 by Blues Forever

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It seems like Kounde is not top of TTs preferred choice as a CB, the way we are dealing with it atm gives me the vibe of us feeling the price tag is too high (we have not even started negotiating) and if he ends up else where then so be it.. seeing as we have an agreement in place with the player but not pulling the trigger just yet for the buy.. We could also be keeping an eye on the status of TTs preferred targets

Edited Wednesday at 16:38 by chelsea_4_eva

[Strike 6,194]

Signing both Sterling and Raphinha would cost over 100m. Don't see the club bidding for both with 2 CBs to be signed as well. 

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[Tomo 21,026]

19 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

 

On another note the fact that teams that haven't won or even challenged for anything in yonks are getting so financially rewarded to the point they can reject £60m (In Leeds/Raphina's case) or over £100m (in WHU/Rice case) to pluck two examples is all ends of wrong for me.

Back in 2004 Everton had to sell Wayne Rooney to even get by.

[Kong 1,568]

34 minutes ago, Tomo said:

On another note the fact that teams that haven't won or even challenged for anything in yonks are getting so financially rewarded to the point they can reject £60m (In Leeds/Raphina's case) or over £100m (in WHU/Rice case) to pluck two examples is all ends of wrong for me.

Back in 2004 Everton had to sell Wayne Rooney to even get by.

A player is worth what a club values them at why sell for 35 if u can get 65? These clubs know how much money teams have nowadays, as my Leeds fans pals would say pay big or fuck off lol.

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10 minutes ago, Kong said:

A player is worth what a club values them at why sell for 35 if u can get 65? These clubs know how much money teams have nowadays, as my Leeds fans pals would say pay big or fuck off lol.

Don't get me wrong I don't blame the club, I blame the system that heavily rewards such underachieving.

Leeds shouldn't be in a position where they can turn down £60m for a player and West Ham defiently shouldn't be in a position to demand £150m for one.