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8 hours ago, Blues Forever said:

 

yikes

he is turning down around £300K PW (gross, how we report wages in the EPL)

I can make a pretty good guess at what he wants

400K euros PW gross (£336K PW) or maybe even more, say up into the £350/375K PW range

that is a shedload of cash for a winger not named Mbappe or Salah (and Salah turns 30yo in few weeks)

 

 

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After what the club has had to deal with, some of you are being a bit ridiculous with how quickly you want things turned on their head. Have patience and wait. 

Leading the Race FC.   

Declan Rice is the midfield version of Lukaku, what a waste of money that would be.

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37 minutes ago, Vesper said:

yikes

he is turning down around £300K PW (gross, how we report wages in the EPL)

I can make a pretty good guess at what he wants

400K euros PW gross (£336K PW) or maybe even more, say up into the £350/375K PW range

that is a shedload of cash for a winger not named Mbappe or Salah (and Salah turns 30yo in few weeks)

 

Gnabry always want same salary like Coman and Sane.  I think the main problem is Bayern disrespecting him just like Sule and Alaba with a lowball offer and Gnabry just end up pissed off with them. 

 

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That is a hell of a lot of money, damn. That’s the sort of money you earn if you’re a world class player which, as good as Gnabry is, is not.

Not sure any club out there would pay him that other than PSG if they lose Mbappe.

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1 minute ago, Pizy said:

That is a hell of a lot of money, damn. That’s the sort of money you earn if you’re a world class player which, as good as Gnabry is, is not.

Not sure any club out there would pay him that other than PSG if they lose Mbappe.

Madrid and Barca could pay him. 

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11 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

Madrid and Barca could pay him. 

Real Madrid could but they’re going after Mbappe who is much better. And they already have enough attacking mids. Barca I’m not sure about. They’re struggling to pay Dembele’s wages as it is and if he ends up staying I’m not sure they’ll be after Gnabry.

Maybe Juve or one of the Milan clubs would try for him. Still, we should at least try.

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23 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Real Madrid could but they’re going after Mbappe who is much better. And they already have enough attacking mids. Barca I’m not sure about. They’re struggling to pay Dembele’s wages as it is and if he ends up staying I’m not sure they’ll be after Gnabry.

Maybe Juve or one of the Milan clubs would try for him. Still, we should at least try.

Serie A clubs can't afford him except probably Juve. 

The clubs who can afford Gnabry:

PL: United, City, Newcastle, Us (under Roman) 

Serie A: Juve

La Liga: Barca, Madrid

Ligue 1: PSG

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18 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

Serie A clubs can't afford him except probably Juve. 

The clubs who can afford Gnabry:

PL: United, City, Newcastle, Us (under Roman) 

Serie A: Juve

La Liga: Barca, Madrid

Ligue 1: PSG

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1 hour ago, Blues Forever said:

 

The new owner needs to go big this summer simple as that, players will want to know we want to remain competing and challenging for all trophies.

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Marcos Alonso is indeed a very serious option for Barcelona's left back position. Alonso prioritizes a return to Spain above all. There is good understanding between Barca and the player. 

 

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1 hour ago, Blues Forever said:

Marcos Alonso is indeed a very serious option for Barcelona's left back position. Alonso prioritizes a return to Spain above all. There is good understanding between Barca and the player. 

 

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I'm interested to see how Tuchel sees this side from next season moving forwards in the longer term. With the players that are leaving and potentially the ones being linked with a move away (Azpi, Alonso, Jorginho) there is the potential to look at shifting to a back 4 on a more full time basis. 

I haven't seen the stats myself but it was mentioned on the United game that we were in the bottom 3 in the league for distance covered per game which I thought was surprising. I know when we have the ball at times, it's possession and control heavy but that is something that needs addressing moving forward, especially when trying to break teams down that sit back. The ball needs moving quicker and there needs to be more options available. Tuchel also prides himself on counter pressing high up the field and whilst at times it works well, I don't think it's been as consistent as it was last year (and that's even in games where Lukaku doesn't play either) and it's something we need to look at getting back to.

The key defensively is to not leave ourselves open to getting counter attacked too often. It's something Klopp and Pep both struggled with in their first year (Klopp for longer) with their teams often being left too exposed. In order for this, unless it's the last few minutes and throwing everyone forward for a goal, you want either 3 players behind the ball or 2 behind the ball and another 2 in the half spaces to get back to cover. We're set up fine for this, but the limitation then comes when attacking we're then relying on defensively minded players to support the attack as the spare players. This has been highlighted even more this season with Chilwell and James out for extended periods because they're replaced by Alonso and Azpi who are far less mobile (and in Azpi's instance a lesser attacking threat).

If Jorginho moves on, we could potentially look to bring in a proper defensively minded holding midfielder disciplined to protect a back 2, mobile to cover ground and spaces around them, and good enough on the ball to keep possession ticking which all should allow a more flexible, attacking side. The obvious two being linked are Rice and Tchouameni and will both also cost a fortune. If one could be bought then great but there has to be alternatives that could be explored. I know there were some potential issues personally with him so I don't know where it all currently stands, but I've always been a big fan of Bissouma and he's always struck me as someone who could "step up" to that next level at a top club and only has a year left on his contract in the summer. Kamara at Marseille is another option potentially who would be free.

The back 5 fit a purpose when Tuchel came in to make us defensively solid and mask a number of weaknesses within some players. It gave a new lease of life and allowed players like Rudiger, Christensen, Jorginho, Alonso, Azpi to thrive in a formation and system which highlighted their strengths and didn't leave their weaknesses as exposed as often as Lampard did. But all of these players could well be off this summer and now may be the time Tuchel needs to evolve this squad. 

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If Mount leaves, It would be  upsetting and hard to watch but if James leaves, it would be heartbreak. 

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8 minutes ago, DDA said:

If Mount leaves, It would be  upsetting and hard to watch but if James leaves, it would be heartbreak. 

Neither will leave.

This idea that we're suddenly going to tumble down the league and become a mid-table side is an absolute myth. No one is paying the premium price they're going to be paying for us to watch us fall into mediocrity. 

Boehly's bid are apparently huge fans of Tuchel and it's clear as day if Tuchel had to name the 4 or 5 main players in his team that James and Mount would be in there. They will both be offered long term contracts with a focus of being pillars to build around for years to come.

Boehly isn't coming into the club and accept the wastage that Roman has, but on the same token he'll know when the club needs to bring new players in it has to be done in an efficient and ruthless manner. Under Roman, I've felt far too often our recruitment has been reactive as opposed to proactive, which is highlighted over the last 15 years the summer following a Premier League or Champions League win, we've been really poor. The only time in that period I can remember our recruitment being a success in that scenario was after the 2012 Champions League and we bought Hazard, Azpi, Oscar but that was almost forced upon us as we needed to rebuild an ageing squad.

The squad at the moment is a bit of a shambles but some hard work in the market and proper planned and well thought out signings over the next summer or two could really reshape this squad because there are some key pieces already in place as opposed to say Man United who literally need as good as a full rebuild.

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On 01/05/2022 at 08:02, Blues Forever said:

 

kindly tell those clubs to fuck off

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