Jype 5,955 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 18 hours ago, Vesper said: Clown car car contractual management yet again. Parting gifts from Marina and the board. If Rudiger leaves on a free as well, we are so fucked. Pre-Tuchel did you honestly want either Rüdiger or Christensen to sign extensions? If either of them signed new deals under Lampard while playing some of the worst football of their careers, a lot of people would've been up in arms about rewarding mediocrity yet again. Tuchel came in and both started looking good, but surely you'd want to wait a while before even thinking of starting contract negotiations to make sure it's not just a rare purple patch and then revert back to their previous level with a new high-paid five year deal in their pockets? After the 2020/21 season the cards were already firmly in the hands of the players with less than a year remaining but before then I wouldn't have considered it good business to hand either of them new deals so the situation is just really unfortunate. Link to post Share on other sites
Vesper 23,968 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 4 minutes ago, Jype said: Pre-Tuchel did you honestly want either Rüdiger or Christensen to sign extensions? If either of them signed new deals under Lampard while playing some of the worst football of their careers, a lot of people would've been up in arms about rewarding mediocrity yet again. Tuchel came in and both started looking good, but surely you'd want to wait a while before even thinking of starting contract negotiations to make sure it's not just a rare purple patch and then revert back to their previous level with a new high-paid five year deal in their pockets? After the 2020/21 season the cards were already firmly in the hands of the players with less than a year remaining but before then I wouldn't have considered it good business to hand either of them new deals so the situation is just really unfortunate. Rudiger was good under Sarri. Lampard is a horrid defence organiser. Not fair to judge defenders under him. Link to post Share on other sites
Jype 5,955 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 37 minutes ago, Vesper said: Rudiger was good under Sarri. Lampard is a horrid defence organiser. Not fair to judge defenders under him. He was decent but nowhere near world class level. At no point in the first 3,5 years of Rüdiger's time at the club did any of us think 'damn that Rüdiger is one of the best defenders in the world, we must keep him at all costs'. He played under three different managers and his peak was nowhere near the level he's now shown under Tuchel's management, I sure as hell wouldn't have shed a single tear if he'd been sold at any point pre-Tuchel arrival. Anyway, that still doesn't answer my question. Before summer 2021, based on their performances since coming to the club in summer 2017 would you have chosen to extend either Rüdiger or Christensen contracts? Link to post Share on other sites
Vesper 23,968 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 4 hours ago, Jype said: He was decent but nowhere near world class level. At no point in the first 3,5 years of Rüdiger's time at the club did any of us think 'damn that Rüdiger is one of the best defenders in the world, we must keep him at all costs'. He played under three different managers and his peak was nowhere near the level he's now shown under Tuchel's management, I sure as hell wouldn't have shed a single tear if he'd been sold at any point pre-Tuchel arrival. Anyway, that still doesn't answer my question. Before summer 2021, based on their performances since coming to the club in summer 2017 would you have chosen to extend either Rüdiger or Christensen contracts? depends on who we got to replace them back then Link to post Share on other sites
Clockwork 1,489 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 15 hours ago, Jype said: Pre-Tuchel did you honestly want either Rüdiger or Christensen to sign extensions? If either of them signed new deals under Lampard while playing some of the worst football of their careers, a lot of people would've been up in arms about rewarding mediocrity yet again. Tuchel came in and both started looking good, but surely you'd want to wait a while before even thinking of starting contract negotiations to make sure it's not just a rare purple patch and then revert back to their previous level with a new high-paid five year deal in their pockets? After the 2020/21 season the cards were already firmly in the hands of the players with less than a year remaining but before then I wouldn't have considered it good business to hand either of them new deals so the situation is just really unfortunate. Yes you can always sell them and get a fee. Link to post Share on other sites
Laylabelle 8,800 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 (edited) With the sanctions...now being reported no player sales or new contacts.. Edited March 10 by Laylabelle 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Blues Forever 1,031 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 33 minutes ago, Laylabelle said: With the sanctions...now being reported no player sales or new contacts.. Basically goodbye to Azpilicueta, Rudiger, and Christensen. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Vesper 23,968 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 well, we are fucked warned and warned on this for ages Link to post Share on other sites
Vesper 23,968 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 I just hope we survive as a club Link to post Share on other sites
Hermione 315 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 1 minute ago, Vesper said: I just hope we survive as a club The moderators should do something with comments like this, the situation isn't anywhere near as dramatic as some of you portray it will most likely be resolved come May so no need to scare people and pretend the club is going to administration or worse. Geez 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Vesper 23,968 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 15 minutes ago, Hermione said: The moderators should do something with comments like this what do you suggest they do? you know nothing more than anyone else, and it is hardly an 'anti club' post I DO hope we survive as a club, especially at our present top 5 or 6 in the world level Link to post Share on other sites
Hermione 315 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Just now, Vesper said: what do you suggest they do? you know nothing more than anyone else, and it is hardly an 'anti club' post I DO hope we survive as a club, especially at our present top 5 or 6 in the world level Delete all these negative comments, we have enough of them in other forums no need for more, and the situation is that we will be sold soon enough most likely and everything will go back to normal sooner or later. The idea of club survival is nonsense as of now and doesn't help anyone coming here to have a read. Link to post Share on other sites
Vesper 23,968 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 1 minute ago, Hermione said: Delete all these negative comments, we have enough of them in other forums no need for more, and the situation is that we will be sold soon enough most likely and everything will go back to normal sooner or later. The idea of club survival is nonsense as of now and doesn't help anyone coming here to have a read. weren't you one of those who poo-pooed me when I said (log before this fucking Ukraine war) that there was a chance we could be seized if/when Roman was ever truly sanctioned? If not you, then for sure others did and well, now..................... Link to post Share on other sites
Hermione 315 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 52 minutes ago, Vesper said: weren't you one of those who poo-pooed me when I said (log before this fucking Ukraine war) that there was a chance we could be seized if/when Roman was ever truly sanctioned? If not you, then for sure others did and well, now..................... Before the Ukraine war I never discussed politics with anyone and I don't really enjoy talking politics so I don't think it was me but anyways lets keep positive and hope it gets resolved in due time, if all gets sorted out maybe we can get Rudiger to sign in due time. Link to post Share on other sites
Vesper 23,968 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 2 minutes ago, Hermione said: Before the Ukraine war I never discussed politics with anyone and I don't really enjoy talking politics so I don't think it was me but anyways lets keep positive and hope it gets resolved in due time, if all gets sorted out maybe we can get Rudiger to sign in due time. best thing would be for Roman to just sign over the club and the government conducts the sale ASAP if he fights it it could be drawn out for a long chunk of time Link to post Share on other sites
Superblue_1986 5,373 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 2 hours ago, Hermione said: The moderators should do something with comments like this, the situation isn't anywhere near as dramatic as some of you portray it will most likely be resolved come May so no need to scare people and pretend the club is going to administration or worse. Geez We've been left in a position with no money coming in. How do you expect wages to be paid? The training ground, pitch and stadium to be operated and maintained? Travel to games? Money will dry up very quickly, a club the size of ours. If we can't pay wages, we'll start losing players left, right and centre who I'm sure will find loopholes to get out of contracts. Who's to say we even have the finances in place to keep going until May? Yes hopefully this can be easily resolved by an agreement being made to sell the club but it's not a guarantee. The goalposts have shifted now, nobody knows what Roman is thinking and whether he'd rather dig his heels in. Or maybe he is closer to Putin than we would like to believe - if that is the case, Putin won't care about the club and may order Roman to not do anything. At the moment there are far too many questions and not enough answers but there is a grim possibility that things could get really a lot worse if it isn't resolved asap. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ZAPHOD2319 2,018 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 We are in a state of flux and anxiety. All Chelsea supporters are feeling it. It is understandable if people express that anxiety. Lets just direct the comments toward what is happening and not toward each other. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Vesper 23,968 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Chelsea contract rebel Cesar Azpilicueta set to stay at the club after Roman Abramovich sanctions https://metro.co.uk/2022/03/10/Chelsea-contract-rebel-set-to-stay-after-roman-abramovich-sanctions-16251568/?ito=newsnow-feed Cesar Azpilicueta looks set to remain at Chelsea this summer following the sanctions imposed on owner Roman Abramovich and will not get his dream move to Barcelona, according to reports. The 32-year-old, who has been at Stamford Bridge for a decade, was expected to leave when his contract expires at the end of the season and has held talks with Barca over a return to Spain on a free transfer. That move seemed to now be a formality after news of Abramovich’s sanctions broke, with Chelsea now unable to offer new contracts while their owner’s assets are frozen. But, according to Spanish newspaper AS, there has been a twist in the contract saga with Azpilicueta having already triggered a one-year extension that ties him to the club. The defender had a clause in his contract which meant that, if he played 30 matches for the club this season, they would have the option to extend his deal until 2023. Club captain Azpilicueta crossed that benchmark in February and AS claim Chelsea have already taken up their option. But Azpilicueta had remained in talks with Barcelona and was confident of convincing Chelsea to let him leave for a nominal fee – or even on a free – as a good will gesture following his long service to the club. That will no longer be allowed to happen, however, with the sanctions imposed on Abramovich meaning the club are unable to conduct any transfer business – incomings or outgoings. Moreover, with Chelsea unable to strengthen their squad for the foreseeable future, they will have no desire to let Azpilicueta leave and weaken their options even further. Barca intend to remain in contact with the versatile defender, but will only be able to sign Azpilicueta if the sanctions on Abramovich are lifted. The Catalan giants are also chasing fellow Chelsea contract rebel Andreas Christensen, a deal which now looks extremely likely to happen with the Blues unable to offer new deals, while Antonio Rudiger is also set to leave the club. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Armour 3,343 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 The ultimate irony and slap in the face of spitty Carragher would be if after all this crisis blows over , we actually end up signing Salah in the summer because he failed to negotiate a deal with Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites
DDA 8,063 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 hour ago, Blue Armour said: The ultimate irony and slap in the face of spitty Carragher would be if after all this crisis blows over , we actually end up signing Salah in the summer because he failed to negotiate a deal with Liverpool. I dislike Salah but that would be a wonderful moment. Shame the spitty faced twat Carragher is part of the Liverscum mob who along with ex United run the footballing media in England. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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