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3 minutes ago, Milan said:

I have heard so many times stuff about FA Cup not being what it was in the past. And you seriously cannot compare those haha

We bottled the game with Villa an arguably bigger game than the Champ League final

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I put most of the blame on Mount. He's too fucking selfish in front of goal. His end-product is still garbage. Flicks and tricks are nice when you have a goal or assist to go with it.  Yet everyo

Yup rotten to the core. It's because of their petty agenda against Abramovich.  It just makes it sweeter when we beat them, despite them stacking it against us.

its really fucking crazy how open, blatant it is and because we squeaked into top 4, so many will (not here on this board) will just say stfu, you got in and it will not be addressed al

the feeling after   the game is such like a win  with help from referee

you know you win but you know also you do nothing to win this 

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1 minute ago, different level said:

Oh, of course. Leicester are punching above their above their weight, but they aren't getting much better than that. With the right mindset and a few good transfers we have the potential to rival City and fight for the League title. Even at our current state we reached the CL final.

Why can't WE punch above OUR weight? Why these gutless players fail to have heart against Arsenal and Leicester (FA Cup)?

Also who gives two shits about the CL final if we don't win it.

That's the difference. We HAVE to win it. THEY won a trophy (against us!)

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4 minutes ago, Jas said:

Now that the stupid drama has died down a little, am I the only one who thinks we were unlucky not to win the game? The performance wasn't the best but we created enough opportunities in the final. The only problem, as always, was the decision making and finishing touch! 🤦‍♂️

We are always unlucky to not win. Always unlucky not to score and concede stupid goals. When this goes on for 2 years you doubt it is just luck 

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1 minute ago, Vesper said:

their defence is so much better than it ever has been

Was bound to happen, I mean PEp has only spent 500M on his defence alone

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4 minutes ago, Jas said:

Now that the stupid drama has died down a little, am I the only one who thinks we were unlucky not to win the game? The performance wasn't the best but we created enough opportunities in the final. The only problem, as always, was the decision making and finishing touch! 🤦‍♂️

My biggest problem is we have become bottlers in the last 3 years, if this was 5 years ago we beat Villa 6-0. We are missing something from that group of players 

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Just now, Vybz Kartel said:

My biggest problem is we have become bottlers in the last 3 years, if this was 5 years ago we beat Villa 6-0. We are missing something from that group of players 

Character

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Just now, Vybz Kartel said:

My biggest problem is we have become bottlers in the last 3 years, if this was 5 years ago we beat Villa 6-0. We are missing something from that group of players 

We lack leaders, big game experience and winning mentality 

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3 minutes ago, Vybz Kartel said:

We bottled the game with Villa an arguably bigger game than the Champ League final

We did. A week before the actual final. I seriously doubt the players did not have the City game in their heads already. They should not but but they are young and this will be the biggest game of their careers to date. It is the coach's job to not let it distract them but hey ho...

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6 minutes ago, Mana said:

Why can't WE punch above OUR weight? Why these gutless players fail to have heart against Arsenal and Leicester (FA Cup)?

Also who gives two shits about the CL final if we don't win it.

That's the difference. We HAVE to win it. THEY won a trophy (against us!)

Well, it depends on how much value do you put in the FA Cup. Losing a final always sucks, but to me the big ones were always the league and the CL and winning those is what separates a great season from a decent one. After all the shocking and pathetic displays we still have a chance of winning a big one and in all fairness that'd definitely be punching way above our weight. 

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All these things we lack is to be expected from a young team with elders who don't have these qualities. 

Things Silva is a leader but isn't in his hungrier years.

We need a striker who is going to show bottle and take the responsibility on his shoulders come lose or win.

Then we need a midfielder in the center who ha similar qualities and I honestly think we can become Champions again.

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Just now, cosmicway said:

What was in favour of Bayern was the home ground.

you know, I am a bit contrarian there

it put SO much pressure on them, and they cracked like a fucking egg

we had so much less pressure on us

no one thought we had a snowball's chance in hell

wifey (GF at the time, it was that long ago, LOLOL) was the only one of us at the house (we had like 30 people over for a party) who was saying we would win for sure, it was a lock

we all said she had smoked too much skunk (she had, she was high as a kite!)

and I remember the presenters saying it was not at all a 'normal' Bayern crowd

there were a tonne of Chels fans there (at least far more than if it was a league away game), plus so many VIP 'big game only' casuals in that Bayern contingent

I recall Gen Hoddle saying it was halfway to being like a yank football team playing a Super Bowl in their home stadium

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8 minutes ago, whats happening said:

you can say this for about 90% of our games since diego costa was sold. 

 

6 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

It's been the same story since Costa left. Some people saying Lewandowski would be a bad signing because of his advancing years. They need a shake. 😐

The funny thing with this is people think it's only down to having a clinical striker. Sure, it'll help but one person can't do it all. That striker can't be scoring every goal when the others like Mount, Pulisic are fluffing easy chances. Today is probably a good example. Werner barely got a decent chance to score despite getting into good positions while the likes of Pulisic, Mount, Havertz and even Chilwell somehow fluffed their lines in front of goal. 

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Still can’t believe giroud wasn’t brought on against a super low defense line. So strange… 

btw I do agree we have other issues aside from striker position, but in today’s game the way villa defended asked for a giroud type of player.

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Just now, Jas said:

 

The funny thing with this is people think it's only down to having a clinical striker. Sure, it'll help but one person can't do it all. That striker can't be scoring every goal when the others like Mount, Pulisic are fluffing easy chances. Today is probably a good example. Werner barely got a decent chance to score despite getting into good positions while the likes of Pulisic, Mount, Havertz and even Chilwell somehow fluffed their lines in front of goal. 

Werner had a massive chance at 0-0 IIRC and fluffed it. A lot changes when you're actually ahead.

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2 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

Werner had a massive chance at 0-0 IIRC and fluffed it. A lot changes when you're actually ahead.

It was a half chance at best from a high ball, IIRC.

The others mentioned had more glaring chances/misses.

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1 minute ago, Jas said:

 

The funny thing with this is people think it's only down to having a clinical striker. Sure, it'll help but one person can't do it all. That striker can't be scoring every goal when the others like Mount, Pulisic are fluffing easy chances. Today is probably a good example. Werner barely got a decent chance to score despite getting into good positions while the likes of Pulisic, Mount, Havertz and even Chilwell somehow fluffed their lines in front of goal. 

i was not thinking about only a striker. there is no goalscorer in our 11 tonight. 0. 

 

also, maybe this was explained already but why is azpi playing rwb and james cb. we are taking away from ourselves james' crossing...

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Every time someone tweets those stats about our top scorers this season I just cringe. It’s ridiculous. Jorginho, with 7 pens, is our leading scorer. For a club with hundreds of millions of pounds in attacking talent.

The likes of Lingard and Bamford were scoring with ease. A 35 year old Cavani scoring goals. Gümdogan from CM scoring for fun.

It’s amateurish to see a massive club like ourselves with a pathetic attack like this. Every team in the top half has a reliable goal scorer except for us. That’s totally ridiculous. We need to do what we did with Diego Costa and quickly identify and execute in the market.

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