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To be honest - can now say after 20-25 games , not a fan at all of the Tuchel style of football.

Feels like Mourinho all over again, along with the Sarri like death by possession in defensive areas. 

We have won and drawn loads of games so everything looks great on paper when looking back but this is definitely not the direction I want our football to go in the next year or two. 

what's good: Our pressing and trying to win the ball back.

Everything else : It's like watching paint dry.

 

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The timing is terrible. all the players now have their heads in the clouds... should i leave the club so i can sitll play the world cup? do we even need to win this? why the f did they not simply

Ed Woodward resigns as Manchester United chairman

Whole point of announcing super league was to make Liverpool drop points and then blow it off just in time for our game lol

This game was crying out for more energy from Chelsea, and he left Kante on the bench.

Why have Kante on the bench if you're not going to use him? Granted you want to protect him, but not even for 15 mins?

Should have brought on Kante and moved Mount further up., a lot sooner in the game.

Also substituting Alonso to leave Pulisic as a wing back was complete waste of time.

Also waited too long to bring on Giroud who is lacking match sharpness from barely playing, and is given just a few minutes to make an impact.

This one is on Tuchel really.

 

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Anyway, game aside.

What a day for the club.

Not sure what drove it, but respect to the club for having the guts to correct course in face of intense scrutiny.

And most importantly, massive props for Chelsea fans who went out in protest.

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19 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

And most importantly, massive props for Chelsea fans who went out in protest.

Best pray that Stamford Bridge doesn't become a source of a COVID-19 outbreak...

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21 minutes ago, Jason said:

Best pray that Stamford Bridge doesn't become a source of a COVID-19 outbreak...

Yeah that too..hopefully

Cech without his mask on either, during the protest..only way to get himself heard, but massive risk.

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Fuck.

Still raging.

Do not know why I am so down, but this is as upset as I have been since the worst of Lampard's fall from grace.

So raging how shit we were.

When we crash like this, it is usually the 3 players I am a long time advocate to bin. Alonso, Zouma, and Jorginho. They lived up to my shite expectations yet again.

Still have ZERO clue why Tuchel played a back 3 with Mount wasted at tge double pivot. Massive tactical blunder. Ziyech also was back to his worst form. Insanely poor last night.

FUCK!

 

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2 hours ago, Vesper said:

Fuck.

Still raging.

Do not know why I am so down, but this is as upset as I have been since the worst of Lampard's fall from grace.

So raging how shit we were.

When we crash like this, it is usually the 3 players I am a long time advocate to bin. Alonso, Zouma, and Jorginho. They lived up to my shite expectations yet again.

Still have ZERO clue why Tuchel played a back 3 with Mount wasted at tge double pivot. Massive tactical blunder. Ziyech also was back to his worst form. Insanely poor last night.

FUCK!

 

That performance was imo a result of questionable tactical decisions and pre-match furore. The players' heads were not in it. I think we were lucky not to have lost considering the chances BHA had, so there is that positive to take from it. I now expect to bounce back strongly after the club has withdrawn from ESL and some key players got rested... We will look a different side with Azpi, Kante, Kovacic and Chilwell back.

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29 minutes ago, manpe said:

That performance was imo a result of questionable tactical decisions and pre-match furore. The players' heads were not in it. I think we were lucky not to have lost considering the chances BHA had, so there is that positive to take from it. I now expect to bounce back strongly after the club has withdrawn from ESL and some key players got rested... We will look a different side with Azpi, Kante, Kovacic and Chilwell back.

Was the tactical decision really questionable?

Selecting Mount in midfield was probably the only questionable one. Otherwise, the other selections were things that what people supposedly wanted - the front 3, Azpi being rested, same goes for Chilwell with Alonso coming in.

Am inclined to think that the ESL fiasco affected the players but on the other hand, yesterday's performance was not really different to what we have seen in some other matches under Tuchel. 

And all this aside, am also not having this tiredness excuse that's being thrown out by Tuchel all of a sudden. 

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6 hours ago, The Rising Sun said:

To be honest - can now say after 20-25 games , not a fan at all of the Tuchel style of football.

Feels like Mourinho all over again, along with the Sarri like death by possession in defensive areas. 

We have won and drawn loads of games so everything looks great on paper when looking back but this is definitely not the direction I want our football to go in the next year or two. 

what's good: Our pressing and trying to win the ball back.

Everything else : It's like watching paint dry.

 

maybe it's not fault of TT, but our attacking players easily are not good enough

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10 minutes ago, Jason said:

Was the tactical decision really questionable?

Selecting Mount in midfield was probably the only questionable one. Otherwise, the other selections were things that what people supposedly wanted - the front 3, Azpi being rested, same goes for Chilwell with Alonso coming in.

Am inclined to think that the ESL fiasco affected the players but on the other hand, yesterday's performance was not really different to what we have seen in some other matches under Tuchel. 

And all this aside, am also not having this tiredness excuse that's being thrown out by Tuchel all of a sudden. 

I understand the players being rested, but for example what was the point of putting James to the left to stay back? Our best crosser effectively disarmed. After those in-game changes we became worse, came closer to losing than winning. We were in trouble in midfield but Kante didn't come on... another questionable decision.

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2 minutes ago, manpe said:

I understand the players being rested, but for example what was the point of putting James to the left to stay back? Our best crosser effectively disarmed. After those in-game changes we became worse, came closer to losing than winning. We were in trouble in midfield but Kante didn't come on... another questionable decision.

About the in-game changes, yeah, I have no idea what Tuchel was trying to go for. The players were just randomly running around the pitch. 

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12 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Yes win midfield battles more he would of helped. I certainly don’t underestimate Kante’s role as he is a world class player on his day still but we didn’t win tonight because he didn’t play.

Its all good winning the back and getting to the final third but that’s when your players need to make the difference. I imagine you seen how many folk were slagging how many times Kante gave the ball away v City too at the weekend/how many attacks he messed up in the match thread when it was on going 😂 or even participated... 

And again, you were talking about counter pressing as if its the only means of creating transitions or chances.... Tuchel just said our counter pressing wasn’t good in the post match, talking about us as a team, not Mount or Jorginho or whoever you think Kante would of played ahead of. I mean do you think one guy would of compensated for the other 10 not being up to the intensity or the team not counter pressing effective? It only works when everyone pulls their weight and go together when the press is triggered. 

We weren’t at it tonight and pretty much created 0 chances with over 120m worth of attacking players in our front three. Kante or no Kante we would of drew that game.

I do agree Mount deeper in a 2 wasn’t a good move, you want him higher up in the half spaces looking to take the ball on the half turn and link the attack. 

Maybe just to deflect.

He’s not happy with the performance though and I would expect a response the next game. We seen it after Wolves, after Leeds and after West Brom. We need to as we cant afford to drop any more points now when teams around drop them.

When you win the midfield battle early on it's a huge morale boost, and Kante would've helped massively in that. The ball wasn't going past our midfield for 90% of the game so we needed to fix that first in order to create opportunities up front. When Tuchel said our counterpressing wasn't good that strenghtens my point, which you weirdly enough are trying to use against me. If our counterpressing was bad and thats what he took out of the game, who would've helped with that? Seriously...man

I agree our attack was bad, but the midfield could've done much more in my opinion. The fact that Ziyech who gave the ball away a 1000 times stayed on for so long when you could've brought Kante on for him is a disgrace. He should've been brought off at half time.

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10 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Just week ago after Porto 2nd leg, Tuchel said that Kova is out for City and that playing Kante for 90 mins in Seville was risky. But he did play him last 2 games for 90mins. On paper Brighton today and Fulham later are two easiest games. We play every 3 or 4 days. You dont think we should rotate a bit? With Kova out, imagine losing Kante again due to injury. It is clear we need to be careful with Kante and logically this was the perfect game for him to take rest. Chelsea should win against Brighton even with Caballero, Emerson, Gilmour, Abraham... We used all our attacking players today and they did not score. Did not even come close.

 

Same here, you want to play same 11 every 3 days? This team on paper should easily beat Brighton. We rested Mendy, Silva, Azpi, Chilwell and still kept clean sheet, our attacking players let us down today. And we used them all. Ziyech, Puli, Timo, Kai, Mount, CHO, Olie...

I'm saying Kante should've came on at half time atleast.

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13 hours ago, Jason said:

The performance. 

Did you see our line-up yesterday? What did you expect?

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2 minutes ago, Azul said:

Did you see our line-up yesterday? What did you expect?

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9 hours ago, The Rising Sun said:

To be honest - can now say after 20-25 games , not a fan at all of the Tuchel style of football.

Feels like Mourinho all over again, along with the Sarri like death by possession in defensive areas. 

We have won and drawn loads of games so everything looks great on paper when looking back but this is definitely not the direction I want our football to go in the next year or two. 

what's good: Our pressing and trying to win the ball back.

Everything else : It's like watching paint dry.

 

I think our football under TT is even more boring than under Jose and Sarri. 

Its all very well scratching out wins in Cups, but lots of teams can do that. The real test is the league and we continue to look mikes off what it takes to challenge. Almost every single game is a tedious slog to try and get a goal and hope to hang on. I never thought we were buying into that when we hired TT.

We can use the excuse that we have a lot of very average players who are simply not title challenging players, but even so, we should be able to play better, more adventurous football than this suite we are seeing most weeks. 

One thing is for sure. Keep playing like this next season and hell be gone by the end of it!

 

 

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Just now, chippy said:

I think our football under TT is even more boring than under Jose and Sarri. 

Its all very well scratching out wins in Cups, but lots of teams can do that. The real test is the league and we continue to look mikes off what it takes to challenge. Almost every single game is a tedious slog to try and get a goal and hope to hang on. I never thought we were buying into that when we hired TT.

We can use the excuse that we have a lot of very average players who are simply not title challenging players, but even so, we should be able to play better, more adventurous football than this suite we are seeing most weeks. 

One thing is for sure. Keep playing like this next season and hell be gone by the end of it!

 

PS. Please excuse the typo's. Using a small phone with no edit button.

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We were at the center of a real shit storm yesterday. I can forgive the performance yesterday. We have been looking better lately. We are in the top 4 and have a chance to win the CL. I can wait to see if he makes the attack better after a true off season and pre-season. I still like what I see with Tuchel.

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13 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Just week ago after Porto 2nd leg, Tuchel said that Kova is out for City and that playing Kante for 90 mins in Seville was risky. But he did play him last 2 games for 90mins. On paper Brighton today and Fulham later are two easiest games. We play every 3 or 4 days. You dont think we should rotate a bit? With Kova out, imagine losing Kante again due to injury. It is clear we need to be careful with Kante and logically this was the perfect game for him to take rest. Chelsea should win against Brighton even with Caballero, Emerson, Gilmour, Abraham... We used all our attacking players today and they did not score. Did not even come close.

 

Same here, you want to play same 11 every 3 days? This team on paper should easily beat Brighton. We rested Mendy, Silva, Azpi, Chilwell and still kept clean sheet, our attacking players let us down today. And we used them all. Ziyech, Puli, Timo, Kai, Mount, CHO, Olie...

Not the same XI but the chop and change in attack is too much to build any rhythm

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