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This is after getting subbed I don't know whether he is in pain or praying for the team on the pitch, but man, I keep saying it over and over again but this man is such a legend that breath

Fernandinho should have been off already  fuck Mike dean

2 hours ago, DDA said:

You know what. If you look at Werners assist numbers... he is a massive improvement on Willian. Fair play.

3 of Ziyech's 5 goals have been assisted by Werner, which is 1/3 (or 1/4) of his total assists.

Am sure when we bought them, we were expecting the assisting and scoring thing to be the other way round...

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1 hour ago, Jason said:

Our fixtures look like this now...

Apr 20 - Brighton (h)
Apr 24 - West Ham (a)
Apr 27 - Real Madrid (a)
May 1 - Fulham (h)
May 5 - Real Madrid (h)
May 8 - Man City (a)
May 12 - Arsenal (h)
May 15 - Leicester/Southampton (n)
May 18/19 - Leicester (h)
May 23 - Aston Villa (a)

If you want to be a big club, you have to embrace a fixture list like that. I think finishing 4th is going to be hard, however if you want to win things, you have to accept it. 

1 hour ago, Tomo said:

When I play fifa career mode I always have a random game where i get hammered by a shithouse team and they do it playing quality football.

That game was literally that. 

Shithousery is the best way to win games. Too many people want to play tippy tappy football, so they can post gifs and have other people tell them how good they play. Give me a Lord Percy or a Costa f*cking someone over, any day of the week.

1 hour ago, NikkiCFC said:

4 clean sheets for Kepa under Tuchel. Was very good for Sarri. Looks like his only problem was Lampard? 

Yeah, but the fact of the matter is our 3atb system is currently playing like late 80's/early 90's Milan. When that is the case, the GK is essentially a passenger. However, with Kepa, even in his 'good' seasons, the stats speak for themselves. Take a reasonable shot against him and you're 50/50 to get a goal.

51 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Ohh 1 last comment.......it best not be that cunt Anthony Taylor for the final. He alone took away 2 FA cups from us.

I swear bald refs have something against us. 

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23 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Tbf I think those comments from Frank were weird, like I don’t know was it so that he could turn around and say the teams not ready and we need more time to get to a certain level? For me though it felt more like he was saying that to hide his short comings as a manager. I mean I dont know about yous but I think his short comings as an actual manager here were sometimes brutally exposed here. Tactically particularly. Identifying trends in games and being proactive to stop them by making alterations/subs. And lack of an actual style or clear way of playing. 

I know every manager wants to their own man (or woman) but said this before, I just don't understand how was Lampard so tactically naive when he played under some of the most pragmatic and best tactical managers in his career - Mourinho, Ancelotti, Hiddink and even Benitez. It's almost as if he learned nothing from them. Lampard had the right idea on how he want to play but the execution side of things was just so bad. 

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4 minutes ago, King Kante said:

If you want to be a big club, you have to embrace a fixture list like that. I think finishing 4th is going to be hard, however if you want to win things, you have to accept it. 

Seems to easier to qualify for the Champions League by actually winning it than trying to finish in the Top 4...

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2 minutes ago, Jason said:

I know every manager wants to their own man (or woman) but said this before, I just don't understand how was Lampard so tactically naive when he played under some of the most pragmatic and best tactical managers in his career - Mourinho, Ancelotti, Hiddink and even Benitez. It's almost as if he learned nothing from them. Lampard had the right idea on how he want to play but the execution side of things was just so bad. 

I suppose it just shows, top players don’t always become top managers at all or will be top managers at the beginning of their managerial career. I think the whole making mistakes and learning from them is the only way to truly progress as a manager.

There was wee signs at times, although not often enough maybe, that he was doing so but the general lack of progression or regression is maybe a better word, of the team as well as lack of a clear structure/system in place which you could identify what we were trying to do certainly held us back. 

 

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 This team with this spirit and with this coach CAN win CL THIS SEASON 

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36 minutes ago, Jason said:

Seems to easier to qualify for the Champions League by actually winning it than trying to finish in the Top 4...

Agreed. The Real game is very 50/50 for me, however I think PSG is a bad match up for City as Neymer/Mbappe will have a field day against their high line. However, for PSG both us and Real are their nightmare. For me, if PSG get to the final, both us or Madrid should be favourites. If City get there, it will be tougher because if they step up their intricate play at a reasonable pace, they can pull both our and Real's defence about. 

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25 minutes ago, King Kante said:

Agreed. The Real game is very 50/50 for me, however I think PSG is a bad match up for City as Neymer/Mbappe will have a field day against their high line. However, for PSG both us and Real are their nightmare. For me, if PSG get to the final, both us or Madrid should be favourites. If City get there, it will be tougher because if they step up their intricate play at a reasonable pace, they can pull both our and Real's defence about. 

I prefer City. Real also prefer City.

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1 minute ago, cosmicway said:

I prefer City. Real also prefer City.

For bookmakers final Chelsea:PSG least likely to happen. For me most likely. 

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35 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

For bookmakers final Chelsea:PSG least likely to happen. For me most likely. 

The elo ratings, to which the bookies assign gravity, say:

REAL = 1047
Chelsea = 1887
CITY = 2020
PSG = 1867

The PSG number is outrageous - they made PSG into Luton town !
CFC too low compared to REAL. We used to be level pegging at 1900 some weeks ago.
CITY is on the high side, as also witnessed today.

PSG in France are not doing well. They are second to Lille and I switched off the tv when Lille were playing Ajaj for the Europa.
Even if PSG win the French championship in the end it's not good enough. But in Europe it's a different proposition.

I will make the PSG rating 1950 now (c.f. Barcelona are 1932 it says) and I 'm going to look what probabilities the ratings suggest.

 

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Just now, Magic Lamps said:

So the final is on 15th may. The day we play Leicester anyway. So which fixture will be moved ? 

That Leicester game. lol Will be moved to a few days later.

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8 minutes ago, Jason said:

That Leicester game. lol Will be moved to a few days later.

Aren't those fixtures being moved anyway so every stadium gets one game with fans?

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1 minute ago, Tomo said:

Aren't those fixtures being moved anyway so every stadium gets one game with fans?

Oops! You're right. The schedule I saw earlier didn't update it yet.

So matchday 37 is on May 18/19, meaning there's nothing but the cup final on that May 15 weekend.

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23 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

The elo ratings, to which the bookies assign gravity, say:

REAL = 1047
Chelsea = 1887
CITY = 2020
PSG = 1867

The PSG number is outrageous - they made PSG into Luton town !
CFC too low compared to REAL. We used to be level pegging at 1900 some weeks ago.
CITY is on the high side, as also witnessed today.

PSG in France are not doing well. They are second to Lille and I switched off the tv when Lille were playing Ajaj for the Europa.
Even if PSG win the French championship in the end it's not good enough. But in Europe it's a different proposition.

I will make the PSG rating 1950 now (c.f. Barcelona are 1932 it says) and I 'm going to look what probabilities the ratings suggest.

 


Computer generated win probabilities (fair prices):

City = 36.2% (2.76)
Real = 25.8% (3.88)
PSG = 22.2% (4.50)
CFC = 15.8% (6.33)

The bookies say:

City = 2.25 (= for burglars)
PSG = 4.33
Real = 5.00
CFC = 5.50

Apart from the glaring mistake of the ratings with PSG which I 'did not take into account, the rest of the ratings if true suggest City but it's not a value bet. Neither PSG or Chelsea, if those ratings are true.
Real is a value bet for winning the champions league.

But in reality City too are overrated and we are underrated.
So my conclusion is that at the prices offered both Real and Chelsea are good bets (at this hour).

 

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1 hour ago, Jason said:

That Leicester game. lol Will be moved to a few days later.

Let's hope southampton somehow manages to get through. would be so annoying to play leicester twice within days.

Anyway the fa cup date is terrible in our fixture lsit. We play the Real, Man City, Arsenal, FA Cup final and then Villa in a space of 18 days. crazy. This phase will decide our season. some of our players looked knackered today already. Lets hope TT knows when to rest which players.

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5 hours ago, Jason said:

Our fixtures look like this now...

Apr 20 - Brighton (h)
Apr 24 - West Ham (a)
Apr 27 - Real Madrid (a)
May 1 - Fulham (h)
May 5 - Real Madrid (h)
May 8 - Man City (a)
May 12 - Arsenal (h)
May 15 - Leicester/Southampton (n)
May 18/19 - Leicester (h)
May 23 - Aston Villa (a)

We should rest players vs Brighton, Fulham and yes Arsenal. No way around that.

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4 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

We should rest players vs Brighton, Fulham and yes Arsenal. No way around that.

Which players really? We don't have regular starting 11. We just beat City without Chris, Mendy, Kovacic... Pulisic and Havartz also didn't start. I think under Tuchel Alonso and CHO have more minutes than Chilwell and James. Whoever he picks it does not hurt our quality on the pitch. Maybe only Rudiger and Azpi don't get rotated. 

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4 hours ago, Jason said:

3 of Ziyech's 5 goals have been assisted by Werner, which is 1/3 (or 1/4) of his total assists.

Am sure when we bought them, we were expecting the assisting and scoring thing to be the other way round...

For sure but as long as the ball goes into the net and we win. Who cares who does what. 

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