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  1. 1. Who is your Man of the Match?

    • Mendy
      1
    • James
      0
    • Azpilicueta
      1
    • Christensen
      0
    • Rudiger
      0
    • Chilwell
      2
    • Jorginho
      0
    • Kovacic
      4
    • Mount
      4
    • Werner
      0
    • Havertz
      0
    • Giroud (sub)
      0
    • Pulisic (sub)
      0
    • Kante (sub)
      0
    • Silva (sub)
      0
    • Emerson (sub)
      0


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4 minutes ago, Jason said:

If we are talking specifically about tonight's game, it was shit overall from the team going forward, if we're being honest. Easy to say Werner and Havertz were shit when the service they got was rubbish. Even Mount, despite scoring, didn't do anything of note. On top of that, nothing really changed even after Giroud and Pulisic came on. The few times we got it right attacking wise, we saw Mount score, Werner send his header just over and then Pulisic hit the post. 

This is true. But as we have discussed and will probably further discuss once I reply to the post from the Werner thread the other day, it is not exactly a new thing. As I said after WBA its an accumulation for Werner every games tallying up and for me except one moment tonight I am finding it beyond belief he is in this team from the start most weeks. 

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two very good goals. should have scored more with the azpi header and the pulisic shot but overall good result. weren't threatened much.porto jsut like atletico only were piss poor cheaters and divers

That is why Chilwell>Alonso. The latter could not have scored that goal to save his life with his turtle pace. Chilwell just breezed past them all.

Imagine we would have gone for jadon sancho instead of havertz and  werner.... well you never know. But what we need is a nimble, fast attacker who also has this little bit of bulk and low centre of g

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Yep! It's quite incredible to still be in with a shout of a trophies and top four, with so few players playing well. But one of the great things we have shown over the years is that we can fight, grind it out and win big trophies even when we're not all that good. 

 

We have been poor individually apart from a few players but have fought as a team brilliantly since Tuchel arrived. you more often than not do not win cups with individual brilliance but with gritty defending and the necessary slice of luck

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Had to listen on the radio. Just got home.

Boom Mason and Chilly - get the fuck in.

Heard Pulisic was unlucky and hit the underside of the bar...

Sounded like a decent game - they didn't have many clear opportunities I can remember.

More of the same next round. 👍👍👍

Now just beat the Pikey Palace at the weekend and all good 👍

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2 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

This is true. But as we have discussed and will probably further discuss once I reply to the post from the Werner thread the other day, it is not exactly a new thing. As I said after WBA its an accumulation for Werner every games tallying up and for me except one moment tonight I am finding it beyond belief he is in this team from the start most weeks. 

GOD, PLEASE NO! AM TOO TIRED/LAZY TO GO AROUND IN CIRCLES AGAIN! 

If we break it down a bit, Werner made an impact in terms of goal contribution early in Tuchel's tenure. So it was normal if he was starting back then and you have Tuchel selecting him for specific games/opponents (e.g. Liverpool at Anfield and Atletico in the second leg), which worked out well. And then you have some games where he didn't play/start. It's also not like the others have been done so great that they deserve to be in the XI every game.

Plus with us playing almost every 3-4 days, there's always gonna be rotation. Maybe Tuchel rotates a bit too much from game to game but he was always gonna rotate anyway.

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6 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

We have been poor individually apart from a few players but have fought as a team brilliantly since Tuchel arrived. you more often than not do not win cups with individual brilliance but with gritty defending and the necessary slice of luck

Fair point!

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29 minutes ago, Milan said:

This is literally just the first half as the second leg is played at the same stadium, just in different shirts... Stupid.

However we have 2 away goals ......priceless!!!!!!!!!!

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I think in the second leg we have to start with Pulsic instead of Werner. With Kante, and Kovacic in the middle we can contain them.

 

Return Leg

 

             Mendy

 

  Azpi        Silva       Rudiger

James. Kante. Kovacic. Chilwell

      Mount         Pulisic

             Giroud/Abraham/Havertz anyone will do

 

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Don't want to focus on the negatives, but Werner seriously needs to be benched. It feels like we play with 10 men when he is on. Give CHO/Pulisic a run of games and I'm sure they'll do a better job.

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The one good thing from this win and a 2-0 win is that our game plan next week should be clear - play on the counter like we did against Atletico instead of trying to getting caught in the fire with Porto like today.

Although, Porto will have Oliveira and Taremi back for the second leg.

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23 minutes ago, Jason said:

GOD, PLEASE NO! AM TOO TIRED/LAZY TO GO AROUND IN CIRCLES AGAIN! 

If we break it down a bit, Werner made an impact in terms of goal contribution early in Tuchel's tenure. So it was normal if he was starting back then and you have Tuchel selecting him for specific games/opponents (e.g. Liverpool at Anfield and Atletico in the second leg), which worked out well. And then you have some games where he didn't play/start. It's also not like the others have been done so great that they deserve to be in the XI every game.

Plus with us playing almost every 3-4 days, there's always gonna be rotation. Maybe Tuchel rotates a bit too much from game to game but he was always gonna rotate anyway.

Do you still think that he deserves to start?

what the fuck GIF

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Think Kante and probably Ziyech are nailed on for the return leg. Kante for midfield security in place of Jorginho and Ziyech to play those through balls to spring the counter when Porto force things to turn the tie.

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7 minutes ago, Azul said:

Don't want to focus on the negatives, but Werner seriously needs to be benched. It feels like we play with 10 men when he is on. Give CHO/Pulisic a run of games and I'm sure they'll do a better job.

Commentator Danny Mills on talk sport said the same. Werner and Havertz in the team is like playing with 10 men. As they are only worth 0.5 each.

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Just now, Pizy said:

Think Kante and probably Ziyech are nailed on for the return leg. Kante for midfield security in place of Jorginho and Ziyech to play those through balls to spring the counter when Porto force things to turn the tie.

Pulisic unlucky tonight.

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I had to sit in my driveway to watch the second half on my phone so I didnt miss anything getting in the house, letting the dogs out, and getting the TV on. We are in a great position even though our mid field was mostly bad. We can play ourselves back into form and get to the final.

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Just now, Muzchap said:

Commentator Danny Mills on talk sport said the same. Werner and Havertz in the team is like playing with 10 men. As they are only worth 0.5 each.

We can give Havertz a pass, because of his role today. He was never going to win headers against Pepe and Mbemba. 

There was a moment in the game where Werner literally couldn't run with the ball, the ball went behind him when he tried to run with it. That showed that his confidence is finished, there's no point in starting him now.

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13 minutes ago, Jason said:

GOD, PLEASE NO! AM TOO TIRED/LAZY TO GO AROUND IN CIRCLES AGAIN! 

If we break it down a bit, Werner made an impact in terms of goal contribution early in Tuchel's tenure. So it was normal if he was starting back then and you have Tuchel selecting him for specific games/opponents (e.g. Liverpool at Anfield and Atletico in the second leg), which worked out well. And then you have some games where he didn't play/start. It's also not like the others have been done so great that they deserve to be in the XI every game.

Plus with us playing almost every 3-4 days, there's always gonna be rotation. Maybe Tuchel rotates a bit too much from game to game but he was always gonna rotate anyway.

That is also true, he started better with TT in Feb (was beginning of Feb he came in right?) but he is more a hinderance than a help just now and has been for a good while. Look at the minute before that Havertz miss he couldn’t even dribble the ball and nearly tripped over it. Which is becoming a regular thing. 

Its at the point where you’d think anyone would be better now would you not agree? We’ve seen coaches play Torres and Morata when they were doing nothing week in and week out, on some premise that they believe they will score or that they can coach them through it etc instead of ignoring the blatantly obvious, the guys in a huge rut maybe wait to a game where your scoring 3,4 or 5 goals and stick him in then (although 3,4 or 5 goals for us this season in one game would be near unheard of). Yes the options weren’t fantastic but either way it didn’t pay off with those guys so what makes people think it will with them? Its virtually the same thing. I mean Its literally deja vu. Surely a smart man like TT can figure that one out? If we were on a piss poor run of form and his job was in danger, relying on someone who’s in a rut like Timo to score you goals, it would be career damaging. 

I mean for me, look at Pulisic tonight, in the 25 minutes he’s come on and had a chance where he has hit the bar/unlucky it hasn't gone in and won a few fouls to relive the pressure on the boys. Can’t remember if hes done an amazing great deal else but in terms of making an impact, he was an inch away from scoring. If he’s having much more of an impact in and around the goal than Werner is or if any player is in limited minutes in comparison, then I am all for seeing them in the team because we need to score goals. Werner had the header chance which to be fair to him its a good position but heading is not his strength.

I hope if TT is to be hopeful of being here in the long run he can find a way to incorporate Pulisic into team. Even more so on the left side of that front 3/attacking trio because surely I cannot be the only one who is sitting baffled at what Werner does over the course of a game or what hes done over the course of the last 2 months nearly?

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Imagine we would have gone for jadon sancho instead of havertz and  werner.... well you never know. But what we need is a nimble, fast attacker who also has this little bit of bulk and low centre of gravity to ride challanges and get past the player despite the foul. If Hazard had stopped everytime he got fouled we would not have won all those titles. Kai, timo and Puli always go down like they hit a wall when tackled. Even Willian was better at this. We have lost a lot of attacking fluidity with those two.

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