closed Chelsea 0-0 Man United

[Tomo 20,224]

12 hours ago, Jason said:

Our record against Solskjaer's United...

L 0-2 (FA Cup)
D 1-1 (PL)
L 0-4 (PL)
L 1-2 (Carabao Cup)
L 0-2 (PL)
W 3-1 (FA Cup)
D 0-0 (PL)
D 0-0 (PL)

As bad as Conte's run of results against Wenger's Arsenal!

Says a lot about them that when it mattered the most we rolled them over. Story of Solskjaer's time there.

[Jason 42,339]

 

[NikkiCFC 5,759]

4 hours ago, Jason said:

How is it selective when by the time Lampard came in, Alonso had played in a back 4 for an entire season? How is it selective when selected as a LB under Lampard, Alonso was consistently dropping clangers? 

And Sarri said that Alonso is one of the best LBs in the world? Just year ago he was nominated for player of the month under Lampard. 

Truth being told we didn't have better LB/LWB since Cole. Alonso gave us much more than Baba, Emerson, Luis, Bertrand... I'm confident Chilwell will be better for us in the future but for now I see no issues with Alonso playing over him especially in this setup. 

Edited March 1 by NikkiCFC

[Jason 42,339]

30 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

And Sarri said that Alonso is one of the best LBs in the world?

Managers say a lot of BS stuff.

30 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Just year ago he was nominated for player of the month under Lampard. 

Err, so? Any player could have a purple patch of form and awards of like Player of the Month mean zilch. You have someone like Mourinho had been successful in the Premier League for most part and had won the Manager of the Month award like only 3-4 times, same amount as or less than some other average joes.

And we were talking about performances, not using some awards, nominations etc as barometers. 

[Fulham Broadway 14,641]

Lol looking at the 'penalty incident' again. The VAR ref from Manchester wanted it and the pitch ref said no. 

Gary Neville on Sky also was annoyed because a penalty wasnt given to Yernited for Green woods handball. They can both suck it up.

[coolhead23 1,076]

Had lot of expectation from this game to see how we play against a pacey opponents who are good on the counter and Boy! it turn out to be a damn boring game. 2 teams who just didnt want to take on the others, no wonder why United has not scored much and Chelsea are equally defensive against the top 4-6 sides. 

Not sure if it's just me, we dont look convincing in the final 3. Baring that save from De Gea which should have gone in, dont think there was any real threat on the goal (yes 2 good cross apart for the shot). The only positive is we looked solid defensively, Kante was the driver partnering well with Kovavic covering every inch in our half and breaking play specially keeping Bruno quiet. 

[Azul 1,539]

30 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Lol looking at the 'penalty incident' again. The VAR ref from Manchester wanted it and the pitch ref said no. 

Gary Neville on Sky also was annoyed because a penalty wasnt given to Yernited for Green woods handball. They can both suck it up.

No one seems to be talking about Mount being fouled by Mctominay for the free kick given to United which led to the pen incident.

[Atomiswave 5,535]

4 hours ago, Strike said:

Didn't Maguire kick out at Batshuayi and RKO Azpilicueta in recent games. Hypocrites

Sure did bro, but they swept that one under the carpet, everything for the scum.

4 hours ago, Jason said:

Yup, there seemed to be less furore about those incidents than yesterday's penalty incident...because Man United were the victims. What a surprise! 

Fuck them and the horse they rode in on.

3 hours ago, Johnnyeye said:

the nerve of those cunts, never a penalty, deluded twats.

Im glad many fans have made meme's of them cunts, crying girls.

47 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Lol looking at the 'penalty incident' again. The VAR ref from Manchester wanted it and the pitch ref said no. 

Gary Neville on Sky also was annoyed because a penalty wasnt given to Yernited for Green woods handball. They can both suck it up.

Fuck GN the biased bastard, they are up there with pool I swear.

15 minutes ago, Azul said:

No one seems to be talking about Mount being fouled by Mctominay for the free kick given to United which led to the pen incident.

Its disgusting, Eng media are biased mugs.

[Jason 42,339]

The Premier League Big Six table this season...

[King Kante 695]

10 minutes ago, Jason said:

The Premier League Big Six table this season...

Really need to beat the Dippers now.

[MoroccanBlue 3,457]

51 minutes ago, King Kante said:

Really need to beat the Dippers now.

Werner/Havertz/Mount front three I reckon could do a job. 

[Atomiswave 5,535]

Giroud should have scored, Werner should have scored, Ziyech should have scored and Mount had a good opportunity to score as well. Udt had jack shit.

[MoroccanBlue 3,457]

8 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Giroud should have scored, Werner should have scored, Ziyech should have scored and Mount had a good opportunity to score as well. Udt had jack shit.

Yeah. May have been too harsh on Tuchel yesterday after reviewing that. Could of scored 2 or 3 yesterday. 

[Jason 42,339]

LOL

[Laylabelle 8,264]

But how is that different to slating the ref which people get fined for? He's saying he looked on the Chelsea website and was swayed from reading articles.. other bloke just telling lies about what was said!

[Atomiswave 5,535]

1 hour ago, Jason said:

LOL

I for one didnt expect any punishment....its fucking udt, a protected breed at any cost. Not many weeks ago that Wolves manager got slaughtered for much less. A phone call from Fergie sorted that shit out.

Edited March 1 by Atomiswave

[robsblubot 2,586]

On 28/02/2021 at 13:48, Jason said:

We can argue all day and will likely never agree on this but I'll just say this, since we're talking about a conventional LB being asked to play in a slightly unfamiliar role of a LWB, maybe some slack should be given especially when said player has only played 1 game here and 1 game there? Even Tuchel has pointed this out and I don't think Chilwell has been a complete disaster in the LWB role either.

If Tuchel wanted to rest Alonso, why didn't he just do it against Southampton last weekend? Or given we have a decent amount of rest days between Atletico and United (4) and United and Liverpool (3) games, why didn't Tuchel just play him today and say rest him against Everton?

I didn't say I expected more from Kante with his passing apart from just being more careful with it. We had no real control in the first half because United decided to press us and they disrupted us well. Jorginho won't have made a difference considering he's bad when under pressure. Getting pressed and losing control of games have been a long standing problem with us, even when we had Fabregas in the team. We don't have a team filled with players who are comfortable on the ball when under pressure.

Then what's your thinking behind Tuchel not playing Jorginho today then?

Atletico only mostly pressed well in the first 10 minutes or so but apart from that, they were mostly content to sit back and defend with the 6-3-1 shape. Kante came on after Giroud scored to help manage Atletico's attacks.

Kante only just came back from injury during that Spurs game period and hence why he didn't start. Jorginho-Kovacic worked well in that game's first half because Spurs were just so passive and sat off us. But when they decided to press high up in the second half, we lost control of the game. 

As discussed before, Chilwell plays like a "proper" wingback, which makes this formation a tad overly defensive. Reckon it was very much intentional for the united game. Maybe Tuchel wanted to block the sides, or simply thought United is in a better form than we are atm.

For me it is clear as day that Alonso plays as a left midfielder, same as Odoi on the other side. They both cut inside and join the other mids in the midfield line, while James and Chilwell will mostly roam the flanks. James does a bit more of the cutting inside, or making those nice crosses, but he's def not a mid.

Alonso fits better in this formation and our best games since Tuchel took over have been with Alonso. There is a lot more to a left mid than taking on players, or defending. Passing for example, becomes far more important. Alonso's many weaknesses are not as exposed in this formation, while his strengths are much needed to bring balance esp by populating the midfield.

[Vesper 21,829]

lol

[Atomiswave 5,535]

12 hours ago, Vesper said:

lol

He dont need to act or wear a costume for holloween, the costume he has on now scares the hell out of me lmao