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  1. 1. Who is your Man of the Match?

    • Mendy
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    • James
      1
    • Zouma
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    • Silva
      5
    • Chilwell
      1
    • Kante
      1
    • Mount
      3
    • Kovacic
      3
    • Werner
      0
    • Ziyech
      0
    • Abraham
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    • Pulisic (sub)
      0
    • Giroud (sub)
      0
    • Havertz (sub)
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21 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Kante was shit and needed out, Mount, Jorginho, Werner, Abraham - and thats just the current squad. Been visiting here since 2005 and its always been the same -what you have to remember that TC members are probably 0.001 % of Chelsea fans :cig:

True but it doesn't mean it's not shit when you come here and see shit takes on things. 

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Taking off Werner was a massive mistake

Have we all given up on Werner as a striker? I mean, I get that we have great crossers in team so having Abraham/Giroud maybe makes sense, but come on... Havertz and Pulisic are fit, let's try them wi

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Last time we played aggressive wb, Lamp played mount on the wing. Now not so sure, 343 is certainly a good option, it kinda match well with spurs threat but I am not sure who should be dropped. 

Should we say f it, and play our normal game. I don't know. We have so many option

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Around the same time last year, we were in poor form, especially at the back and I hoped we would revert to a back 5 formation against Spurs. Thankfully Lampard did just that.

This time though, I think we should just give up the pretense and attack with our 4-3-3. Changing to a 3 atb will not help, as Mourinho will expect and plan for it this time around. We've used that same formation in the last 3 games against him.

Of course, City also used a 4-3-3 and failed, but this is where I hope we learn from their mistakes and be smarter with our play.

As is customary of late, Mourinho is likely to play with a mid block, congesting the midfield., have Kane drop deep and have runners like Son & Bale primed to latch onto long passes coming from a counter attack.

This is where players like Mount, and especially Ngolo Kante will have to work extra hard. A lot depends on Kante and one of the CB's restricting Kane's game, while the rest of the defense keeps their eye on the runners like Son,Bale & Lo Celso.

Our full backs will also have to be extra careful when pushing up. In no instance should we have both fullbacks up the pitch simultaneously, especially if we lose possession. 

Meanwhile our CAM's and forwards will have to be incredibly efficient trying to navigate around their tight midfield. I think Kovacic is probably a better option than Havertz this time around, considering the latter is only getting back into playing fitness. Good to have Pulisic returning as well.

The one thing I hope we take advantage of is their back line., which despite their record in the league, doesn't scream impressive. Alderweireld is also out, which leaves Eric Dier again at the back. Come on.

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Kante was shit and needed out, Mount, Jorginho, Werner, Abraham - and thats just the current squad. Been visiting here since 2005 and its always been the same -what you have to remember that TC members are probably 0.001 % of Chelsea fans :cig:


Absolutely spot on
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6 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Damn wtf Jose....bastard. 10 of those players wont play vs us.

Are you actually surprised by his selection? 

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58 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Damn wtf Jose....bastard. 10 of those players wont play vs us.

Bale, Sanchez and Ndombele will probably start, but yeah would've been better if Kane and Son were in the line-up too. 

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Let's just hope and pray that Lampard isn't going to start changing what has been working for us. Kante has to play as a DM, I don't want to see Jorginho.

 

Changing the formation to a 3-4-3 could be a problem, because the players have gotten used to playing in a 4-3-3. If it ain't broken, then don't try to fix it please.

 

 

 

 

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Kante and Silva the key to Chelsea stopping Kane in his new, deeper role

https://theathletic.com/2220981/2020/11/25/chelsea-kante-harry-kane/

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“The problem with Harry Kane,” begins former West Bromwich Albion defender Gareth McAuley, pondering the Premier League’s most burning question right now, “is that he scores all types of goals. He can finish with his left foot, right foot, he can score headers, he can score from inside the box or outside the box. He poses a massive scoring threat, and this season he’s dropping into that No 10 position where he can get shots off from the edge of the box. How do you counteract that?”

Frank Lampard’s days leading up to Chelsea’s clash with Tottenham at Stamford Bridge on Sunday will be dominated by the challenge of dealing with the unique problems Kane is likely to cause. His tally of seven goals in nine Premier League matches this season may be bolstered by two penalties, but his non-penalty expected goals (NPxG) rating per 90 minutes of 0.5 is his highest average since 2017-18, when he scored a career-best 28 non-penalty goals in 37 league appearances.

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The even more worrying thing for Lampard is that Kane isn’t even Tottenham’s top scorer this season. That title belongs to Son Heung-min, who has scored nine goals in nine league appearances against an expected goals (xG) rating of just 3.9. The two men have forged the most productive and dangerous active attacking partnership in the Premier League era, and Son’s talent for attacking the space behind opposition defences has unlocked the creative capabilities that Kane always insisted were a big part of his skill set.

Kane also has nine assists from his first nine Premier League matches, seven of which have been for Son goals. The pair combined to utterly destroy Southampton’s high defensive line in a 5-2 win for Tottenham at St Mary’s in September, as well as picking apart Manchester United and Burnley away from home. No player in Europe’s big five leagues has been directly involved in more goals this season than Tottenham’s talismanic striker who, increasingly, profiles as an elite No 10 as well as a deadly No 9.

An expected assists rating per 90 minutes (xA90) of 0.43 marks out Kane as more than twice as creative as in any of his previous three Tottenham seasons. He is touching the ball 10 more times and attempting six more passes per 90 minutes on average than in 2019-20, and they are generally occurring in deeper positions. The most startling example is the Southampton win in September, when he touched the ball just once in the opposition penalty area while registering four assists for Son.

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    Harry Kane touch map vs Southampton

 

How do you deal with this as a central defender? McAuley, who faced Kane many times during his Premier League career with West Brom, admits there are no easy solutions. “It suits Harry’s game because he’s a clever player,” he adds. “When he’s coming off the (defensive) line and players are running past him, you can’t go with him. That’s where your communication comes into play with your central midfield players, getting people around you. As a defender you’re thinking about the threat behind you, that slipped pass to the runner. He’s also got the vision to slide the likes of Son through when he finds those pockets of space on the half-turn.

“When we did it as a four (at West Brom), we tried to box off the central area with two midfielders (in front of the two centre-backs). We wanted to force teams to play wide, especially the bigger teams. Chelsea have top defenders who will fancy themselves, but they can’t do it as individuals. It has to be as a unit. Our particular way would be to keep it tight and narrow, force them wide and bet on our strengths to deal with crosses. Chelsea will probably approach it differently, but he scores the majority of his goals from the middle of the box, so they’ll have to get it right in that area.

“The defensive unit and the sitting midfielder will have to deal with his movement, as well as the clever positional rotations that Tottenham have when they attack. For me, communication — passing on players and information quickly and early — is the best way to combat it. One lapse of concentration against Kane right now and he’s either scoring or assisting a goal.”

Chelsea have found impressive defensive stability in recent weeks, following Lampard’s shift to an expansive 4-3-3 system with N’Golo Kante at the midfield base, making full use of his positional intelligence, elite anticipation and speed to snuff out opposition attacks before they can gather momentum. On the occasions when Kane drifts deeper it will be into the Frenchman’s sphere of influence, and the outcome of that particular contest could end up having a big impact on the result at Stamford Bridge.

But the organisation of Chelsea’s defensive unit as a whole will fall to Thiago Silva, whose impact and influence since arriving on a free transfer from Paris Saint-Germain in August has been monumental. “He reads the game so well and puts himself in position,” McAuley says of Silva. “All that top-level experience informs his decisions, and his decision-making will be massively important (against Kane and Tottenham). But he’ll need the players around him as well.

“Kante covers so much ground in front of the defence, and he covers it quickly. It’s about killing that space. Zouma has recovery pace too, but he won’t be wanting to recover too much. He’ll want to use his speed to get up to the ball, to push out and keep the defensive line higher.”

Lampard could try to spring a tactical surprise and return Chelsea to 3-4-2-1, the formation Jose Mourinho belittled as “the system they played for two years with Antonio Conte” after watching his Tottenham team suffer the first of two Premier League defeats to their London rivals in 2019-20. But that would risk surrendering the confidence his players have built up in 4-3-3 over recent weeks, while Spurs — and Kane — are also playing very differently this season.

McAuley’s scepticism that such a change would be effective springs from personal experience. “We tried to do it with a back three with West Brom once at White Hart Lane and he (Kane) got a hat-trick. We changed to try to defend with a back three, mainly because of his goal threat, and we got hammered on the day (losing 4-0).

“How do you do it tactically? I don’t know. You do need a massive game from your central defenders in terms of their positioning, blocking shots, organising, talking to the midfielders in front of them — particularly when he drops off and isn’t playing up against them. It’s a big challenge in terms of concentration and communication, and he’s in great form right now.”

Chelsea can only look at nullifying the threat of Kane — and, by extension, Son — as a collective challenge at Stamford Bridge on Sunday. If they manage to keep both off the scoresheet, it will only add to Edouard Mendy’s burgeoning reputation and constitute one of the most impressive defensive achievements of the Lampard era. If they fail, they can at least console themselves with the fact that so has pretty much everyone else who has faced Tottenham so far this season.

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10 hours ago, King Kante said:

Bale, Sanchez and Ndombele will probably start, but yeah would've been better if Kane and Son were in the line-up too. 

Yes most likely but I highly doubt he will start with Bale.

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