29. Kai Havertz

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43 minutes ago, kellzfresh said:

I'm hoping he does honestly. Everyone is completely convinced he will become world class definitely.

I have never been convinced about tall, lanky attacking midfielders as I feel they won't have the guile and mobility to thrive in tight spaces.

A lot of us criticized Mount for better performances than him last season, hopefully Havertz performs and shuts me up in no time.

Yeah Mount recieved alot of shit thrown at him but I bet most have realised what an asset he is for Chels. Kai will come good mate, some need that extra time to level up, though I thought he was good before he got covid. 

[killer1257 3,263]

Let me put it this way - if there is one current Chelsea player that I believe might actually win the Ballon d’Or, it is Havertz. And I am not forgetting Pulisic.

Ballon d'or? Lol

Hazard was the closest thing we ever had that might have won Ballon d'or, but was unlucky because of Messi and Ronaldo.
I don't think we will have anyone close to Hazards level of greatness in the next coming years.



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9 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

Ballon d'or? Lol

Hazard was the closest thing we ever had that might have won Ballon d'or, but was unlucky because of Messi and Ronaldo.
I don't think we will have anyone close to Hazards level of greatness in the next coming years.



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I am not saying he will be a certain winner, just that for me from the current squad he has the biggest chance. Challenging for the Champions League might help the cause. With Hazard we had only 1 solid CL campaign.

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1 hour ago, killer1257 said:

Ballon d'or? Lol

Hazard was the closest thing we ever had that might have won Ballon d'or, but was unlucky because of Messi and Ronaldo.
I don't think we will have anyone close to Hazards level of greatness in the next coming years.



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Hazard might have been our most talented player but clearly not our closest to Ballon d'or. Lampard is obviously the closest thing we had to win Ballon d'or while playing for us, just getting 2nd behind ronaldinho because Gerrard took votes off him . George Weah was a world footballer of the year who played for us later.

Pulisic while extremely talented will never become truly great bc of his injuries. He is just not cut out to be. Havertz is the more likely candidate,but i doubt it. He is a simple, yet effective player who will produce big number in his peak but never flash people too much.

Also who it is a team sport. individual accolates should not matter that much. If we win a few more CLs and champoinships in the next decades, I could not care less about ballon d'or.

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Kai makes Alex Iwobi the worst winger in the league look like a world beater today

[NikkiCFC 6,248]

He needs to receive social media abuse  than he would step up and feel like he needs to prove something. It worked with Tammy after Super Cup and with Mount this season 

[Tautvix 1,321]

What is Havertz actually good at? He looks so average...

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33 minutes ago, Tautvix said:

What is Havertz actually good at? He looks so average...

It's looking sad at the moment. The moment our two main creative players (Ziyech and Pulisic) couldn't play, the onus was on Havertz to do something and he has hidden in his shell.

Sad to see, i was honestly hoping he could pull something for once. The only team he has played outstanding this season was against a championship team. 

[Special Juan 26,140]

Lazy fucker.

[Tomo 20,576]

Good to see the lessons are being learned from James' and Mount's resurgence.

[Jase 43,174]

He just looks like he's playing in his world at the moment. So off the pace and not alert to things.

Should be given the Pulisic treatment...

[Supermonkey92 1,428]

We dont lose anything when he doesn't play

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He was shiite today, but thats besides the point because hes been shiite plenty this season(although not as bad as today)

 

The problem is what is his position? People say he can play winger but he CLEARLY cant. He looks awful playing it. Playing through the middle is a bigger question since hes so lazy. Mount having to play deeper than him to make up for his lazy strides makes Mount look worse. Can he play as a striker? What is he here for?

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I play five a side footie three times a week and one of those times I do it with my friends that have played the game during their youth - I didn't, just played the game for fun, I'm not bad at it, but not great either. But when I am around them I look exactly like the current Kai Havertz, I am three steps behind them, I misplace passes, I am all over the place, I can barely dribble anyone because they know the game and they do this little tricks you learn during football practice like using your body to shove someone off and stuff like this. At least I compensate by being fit and I go into Kante mode and I tackle the shit out of them and block shots and play it safe by my standards. But they are my friends and understand all this.

It is the best how I can describe Kai Havertz at the moment, he is soooooo off the pace compared to everybody else. Maybe a bit insecure, too.

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I play five a side footie three times a week and one of those times I do it with my friends that have played the game during their youth - I didn't, just played the game for fun, I'm not bad at it, but not great either. But when I am around them I look exactly like the current Kai Havertz, I am three steps behind them, I misplace passes, I am all over the place, I can barely dribble anyone because they know the game and they do this little tricks you learn during football practice like using your body to shove someone off and stuff like this. At least I compensate by being fit and I go into Kante mode and I tackle the shit out of them and block shots and play it safe by my standards. But they are my friends and understand all this.
It is the best how I can describe Kai Havertz at the moment, he is soooooo off the pace compared to everybody else. Maybe a bit insecure, too.

'I tackle the shit out of them' made me lol.

Give him hell (but, you know, the friendly kind)

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12 hours ago, killer1257 said:

Ballon d'or? Lol

Hazard was the closest thing we ever had that might have won Ballon d'or, but was unlucky because of Messi and Ronaldo.
I don't think we will have anyone close to Hazards level of greatness in the next coming years.



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Hazard is just so annoying. Balon dor level talent but just so relax. 

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2 hours ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

He was shiite today, but thats besides the point because hes been shiite plenty this season(although not as bad as today)

 

The problem is what is his position? People say he can play winger but he CLEARLY cant. He looks awful playing it. Playing through the middle is a bigger question since hes so lazy. Mount having to play deeper than him to make up for his lazy strides makes Mount look worse. Can he play as a striker? What is he here for?

As a 10 behind tammy or Giroud is his best position right now. Ask him to float around and he should be fine but he still struggle with epl

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52 minutes ago, communicate said:

Hazard is just so annoying. Balon dor level talent but just so relax. 

Hazard's mental attitude is still notches above.

He arrived at the club at the same age, and while he had underwhelming performances in some matches, he almost never put on a "bad" performance.

Anyway, not all players are the same. Havertz clearly has to mature as a player.

As people have mentioned previously, with the 20+ yr old players in our squad, its likely that quite a few of them will go through rough patches like this before they become consistent. Today his head wasn't in the game.

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35 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

Hazard's mental attitude is still notches above.

He arrived at the club at the same age, and while he had underwhelming performances in some matches, he almost never put on a "bad" performance.

Anyway, not all players are the same. Havertz clearly has to mature as a player.

As people have mentioned previously, with the 20+ yr old players in our squad, its likely that quite a few of them will go through rough patches like this before they become consistent. Today his head wasn't in the game.

I wasn't comparing hazard to Havertz. But Hazard is very2 annoying player. He was the best player in epl without question, but so non chalant. Sometime, he can took season off. 

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6 hours ago, Tomo said:

Good to see the lessons are being learned from James' and Mount's resurgence.

Oh come on. That's not fair.

Even at their worst, mount and Reece showed their talent. 

Simple question, what is his USP? What is he good at? He can't pass? He does not run, he can't fucking turn without taking a year's worth of time. For all his height, physically is shit, can't bloody fucking shield the ball. What is he good for? Simple question. 

He would be a good player for the Lyons and leverkusens of the world but will never be a good player at a top club as they are not afforded time. Mount is a 10* better player in all aspects of the game.

Even when pulisic was struggling, you could see aspects of his game which set him apart. With KAI, it's literally nothing.