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37 minutes ago, Jas said:

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Awesome 😀 Funnily enough, I keep singing it, either in my head or out loud lol. Great piece of chant this.

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Really taking the piss now 

Werner has never been the most clinical of players. Last season in the Bundesliga he recorded 20 big chances missed, only second to Lewandowski at 24. That said, it comes with the territory. He's

he has a real mentality off the field but also different level on it. Hard doesn't faze him, but he's a killer, he is going to get tons of goals this season.

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On 30/05/2021 at 00:39, Jas said:

He's gonna be able to work with a few players at most, unless somehow all the big nations get KOed out of the Euros early.

At the moment, he'll have only Kepa, Mendy, Alonso, Silva, Ziyech, Pulisic and CHO to work with. 

Silva has Copa America 🙄

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1 hour ago, NikkiCFC said:

Silva has Copa America 🙄

Forgotten about that but it could be cancelled.

 

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On 30/05/2021 at 05:43, Jas said:

But also, without Werner, that goal wouldn't have happened.

Anyway, we won. Chill, relax, celebrate. Think/worry/complain again next season.

Reminds me of torres when people would back him for "that run".

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3 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Reminds me of torres when people would back him for "that run".

Well, both are facts...

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12 hours ago, Jas said:

Forgotten about that but it could be cancelled.

 

Moved to Brazil 😂 wtf, they are not doing good with Covid at all.

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2 hours ago, Artandur said:

I don't know if i ever witnessed such a schizophrenic season as Werners this year

Do you know what is really interesting. I was reading an article about Brentford and how they use their moneyball analytics to determine player performance rather than pure outcome. Essentially, to not bore everyone, they look at a players xG rather than their pure stats as they believe that is the real determining factor in ascertaining whether a player is good or not as it shows that they're doing the more difficult part of the job. 

Anyway, if you go on that, then Werner has had a brilliant season for us. 

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1 hour ago, King Kante said:

Anyway, if you go on that, then Werner has had a brilliant season for us. 

In the PL Werner had 13.43 xG and 6.67 xA. By no means is it 'brilliant' when factoring his minutes played but definitely much better than what he really got (6 goals, 8 assists). 

That's one of the reasons I'm not worried about Werner. His general play has been, if not great then at the very least quite decent. If he can start finishing chances even at average level then he should easily get 20+ goal contributions in the league next season and maybe around 30 overall in all competitions. And IF he can even outperform his xG and xA like he did in a couple seasons at Leipzig he can potentially be a massive player.

Overall in his career he's got 97 xG and 34 xA in league games at EPL and Bundesliga, which is quite close to his actual stats 93+39. The only other season he underperformed his xG by this much was his first season as a regular starter at Stuttgart but once he got going he's always performed quite well up until this season. It's all about the confidence and if he gets that back he'll start banging them in no doubt.

I hope the return of the fans to the stadium will be a big factor in Werner getting his mojo back. 

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Fabregas on Werner and Havertz...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/euro-2021/2021/06/14/humble-funny-great-little-dark-side-real-ngolinho-kante/

I watch every single Chelsea game, so I’ve followed the first seasons of the club’s two big German signings, Kai Havertz and Timo Werner, very closely and I am convinced next season we will start to really see the best of them.

As a midfielder who likes to make assists, I have played behind strikers before who are going through a bad time or suffering with their confidence. It’s a bit of both that it can be frustrating that they miss chances, but I would also be thinking at some time Werner will score.

The most important thing is that he keeps making the runs, that his timing is good, that he’s not offside and with his speed he will always get chances. Players like Werner are so valuable nowadays because players want the ball at their feet a lot and, as a midfielder, you would like this type of player to run on to your passes.

I’d definitely still keep trying to find him in games because when your own team-mates start doubting you, this is the worst feeling you can have because you feel it. What I like is to talk to people always in a positive way, even if in training they miss then you say ‘well done, the next one will go in’. Even if it has to be 100 times. Football is so much about confidence and what’s in your head and especially strikers who depend so much on scoring or not scoring. If they miss, it’s when you need to support them the most.

I was talking to my Monaco team-mate Kevin Volland, who was a team-mate of Havertz at Bayer Leverkusen, and he told me that Havertz would usually struggle a little bit at the start of seasons to get going, but that once he gets a clear ride and is mentally good then he’s a fantastic player. 

Havertz didn’t start very, very well at Chelsea and sometimes he looked off the pace. But once Thomas Tuchel put him in a false nine position, it was working better. He didn’t have to touch a lot of the ball, but he helped the team tick. He was not losing the ball, he made everyone else secure, he was creating stuff. And I think at the end of the season, he was very, very good.

I saw that both Werner and Havertz scored for Germany in their last warm-up game, so, hopefully, they can have a good tournament and, definitely, I think we will see different players for Chelsea next season. 

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Looks like a back up goalkeeper is sorted 😄 This plastic lady has always known her stuff…

 

 

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3 hours ago, Milan said:

Looks like a back up goalkeeper is sorted 😄 This plastic lady has always known her stuff…

 

 

That's Rachel Brookes, right? Why is she plastic lady? 

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1 hour ago, Jas said:

That's Rachel Brookes, right? Why is she plastic lady? 

Rachel is fine. This is Natalie Pinkham. I noticed she was also into English football. She was blatantly seducing Leclerc of all drivers at one point 😄

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1 minute ago, Milan said:

Rachel is fine. This is Natalie Pinkham. I noticed she was also into English football. She was blatantly seducing Leclerc of all drivers at one point 😄

LOL She must be trying to get murdered by Charlotte... 

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No excuses this season.

He has a PL season under his belt with 2 European trophies.

It's time for him to show up and not stink hard in front of goal.

But after seeing him in the Spuds pre-season and SC, chances are he's not going to improve. May have to start thinking of selling the guy.

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1 hour ago, Mana said:

No excuses this season.

He has a PL season under his belt with 2 European trophies.

It's time for him to show up and not stink hard in front of goal.

But after seeing him in the Spuds pre-season and SC, chances are he's not going to improve. May have to start thinking of selling the guy.

Yet youve given lukaku all the excuses in the world and hes played more prem AND werner is a winger!

 

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2 hours ago, Warning_Hazard said:

werner is a winger!

He's not though. He's a forward who's being played on the wing because he's not good enough to lead the line by himself.

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13 minutes ago, Jype said:

He's not though. He's a forward who's being played on the wing because he's not good enough to lead the line by himself.

According to you 1 season of being crap doesnt make the man, Your math is alien to me.

He can have 3 seasons before we judge him, using your lukaku manual

Werner plays out wide ffs

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