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47 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Amazing. 

 

Pulisic/Werner/Ziyech/Havertz will give us one of the most threatening attacks in the world.

This has potential to become one of the best attacks in the history of football.

I expect Havertz and Pulisic to fight for Ballon d Or, Werner to be top5 in Golden Boot race for years and Ziyech is still there and I hope he can have Bruno effect on us.

And I still have hope CHO can go on Sancho level.

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Hey Guys! Just visiting to tell you that i am very happy that Kai will most definitly play for you next season. Of course i would have prefered him to stay with us for the next decade and longer,

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1 minute ago, NikkiCFC said:

This has potential to become one of the best attacks in the history of football.

I expect Havertz and Pulisic to fight for Ballon d Or, Werner to be top5 in Golden Boot race for years and Ziyech is still there and I hope he can have Bruno effect on us.

And I still have hope CHO can go on Sancho level.

Nah lets not get ahead of ourselves. Kai is the only one with true elite potential. Timo has below average talent for a pro footballer but with his pace and determination we might get a few good years out of him. Ziyech is currenlty in his prime, I dont think he will improve much but he will surely get like 70% of the output he had in Eredivisie.Pulisic is one of the greatest talents in Europe but injuries will at least inhibit his progress. It will be a very good offense but i think not even close to one of the best.

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Just now, Magic Lamps said:

Nah lets not get ahead of ourselves. Kai is the only one with true elite potential. Timo has below average talent for a pro footballer but with his pace and determination we might get a few good years out of him. Ziyech is currenlty in his prime, I dont think he will improve much but he will surely get like 70% of the output he had in Eredivisie.Pulisic is one of the greatest talents in Europe but injuries will at least inhibit his progress. It will be a very good offense but i think not even close to one of the best.

Way to put a downer on one of the best transfer windows in the history of the club lol.

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Just now, DDA said:

Way to put a downer on one of the best transfer windows in the history of the club lol.

We should not get too over-excited here. It has been a great window and i think they will all do fine bc they are quality, clever players but when I see Werner compared to Agüero or Pulisic to Hazard, we are placing way too much expectation on them and are bound to be disappointed.

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12 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Nah lets not get ahead of ourselves. Kai is the only one with true elite potential. Timo has below average talent for a pro footballer but with his pace and determination we might get a few good years out of him. Ziyech is currenlty in his prime, I dont think he will improve much but he will surely get like 70% of the output he had in Eredivisie.Pulisic is one of the greatest talents in Europe but injuries will at least inhibit his progress. It will be a very good offense but i think not even close to one of the best.

 

7 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

We should not get too over-excited here. It has been a great window and i think they will all do fine bc they are quality, clever players but when I see Werner compared to Agüero or Pulisic to Hazard, we are placing way too much expectation on them and are bound to be disappointed.

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9 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

We should not get too over-excited here. It has been a great window and i think they will all do fine bc they are quality, clever players but when I see Werner compared to Agüero or Pulisic to Hazard, we are placing way too much expectation on them and are bound to be disappointed.

I actually think pulisic will turn out to be better than hazard 

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I just think it'll be nice to no longer be jealous watching other teams having 3-4 attacking players of the highest quality who can produce magic consistently while we only have 1. No more give it to Hazard/Pulisic and pray for a miracle. We will have 4+ genuinely top class attacking players in our XI at any given time.

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1 hour ago, BluesMadLad said:

I actually think pulisic will turn out to be better than hazard 

He has to get past the injuries that regularly disrupt his season (not just here but in Dortmund too). If this carries on for the next 12 - 24 months, he'll be less Hazard and more Robben by which time the club would have a very important decision to make regarding his future because how much can you realistically rely on a player who struggles to stay fit for large portions of the season.

If he can get over the injuries, there's incredible potential there. I think he's a very different player to Hazard in a number of ways but one area is he is much more direct which could help him rack up raw goal and assist numbers.

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3 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

He has to get past the injuries that regularly disrupt his season (not just here but in Dortmund too). If this carries on for the next 12 - 24 months, he'll be less Hazard and more Robben by which time the club would have a very important decision to make regarding his future because how much can you realistically rely on a player who struggles to stay fit for large portions of the season.

Robben got injured a lot and yet, Bayern still stuck with him till the end. 

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5 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

He has to get past the injuries that regularly disrupt his season (not just here but in Dortmund too). If this carries on for the next 12 - 24 months, he'll be less Hazard and more Robben by which time the club would have a very important decision to make regarding his future because how much can you realistically rely on a player who struggles to stay fit for large portions of the season.

If he can get over the injuries, there's incredible potential there. I think he's a very different player to Hazard in a number of ways but one area is he is much more direct which could help him rack up raw goal and assist numbers.

Hes still young his body has barely stopped growing, we are gunna have the privilege of watching this boy become a man, if any league can toughen him up it's this one.

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1 minute ago, Jason said:

Robben got injured a lot and yet, Bayern still stuck with him till the end. 

With all due respect to the Bundesliga, Bayern could afford to stick with Robben because their squad was so much stronger than pretty much everybody else in the league bar a couple of years for Dortmund.

Given the strength and competitiveness in England, it'll be much more difficult for us to place reliance on a player that struggles with injuries. 

As I said, he has huge potential and could become one of the very best around, but if he continues to be plagued by injuries it could have significant consequences for both him and us.

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7 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

With all due respect to the Bundesliga, Bayern could afford to stick with Robben because their squad was so much stronger than pretty much everybody else in the league bar a couple of years for Dortmund.

Given the strength and competitiveness in England, it'll be much more difficult for us to place reliance on a player that struggles with injuries. 

True but it’s not like Bayern knew when Robben got injured. Am sure he has gotten injured before and then missed key games in the Champions League for example but that did not stop Bayern from keeping him. In the Premier League, an example would be Aguero, who has had his fair share of injury problems over the years. Sure, you might again argue that City have probably been the most dominant side in recent years and have a squad to cope but we are also looking to build a squad as strong as City, no?

10 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

As I said, he has huge potential and could become one of the very best around, but if he continues to be plagued by injuries it could have significant consequences for both him and us.

I know his injury record overall doesn’t look great but just in terms of his time here, he only really was out earlier this year. Admittedly, it was like 2 months but it was still only one period in the entire season. As long as his training workload is managed properly as well as his game time, he should be fine. 

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2 minutes ago, Jason said:

True but it’s not like Bayern knew when Robben got injured. Am sure he has gotten injured before and then missed key games in the Champions League for example but that did not stop Bayern from keeping him. In the Premier League, an example would be Aguero, who has had his fair share of injury problems over the years. Sure, you might again argue that City have probably been the most dominant side in recent years and have a squad to cope but we are also looking to build a squad as strong as City, no?

I know his injury record overall doesn’t look great but just in terms of his time here, he only really was out earlier this year. Admittedly, it was like 2 months but it was still only one period in the entire season. As long as his training workload is managed properly as well as his game time, he should be fine. 

I think if the likes of Werner, Ziyech and Havertz perform to what they are expected to, then it will lessen the load on Pulisic a lot and he can also be afforded to be rotated more regularly which could also be key to keeping him fit more.

His track record does seem to suggest he doesn't heal very quickly and takes the longest usual expected recovery from his injuries which is a bit of a concern. I'm not at all convinced he'll be ready for the start of the season.

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I think if we get Kai, we have enough attacking to rest all of them through rotation. Pulisic's game works with him going all out. Pushing your body that much all the time will cause injuries. Part of his maturing process is knowing when to push and when to recover.

Kai, Werner, Pulisic, Tammy, Mount, and James....it is mind blowing how long they could play together if they all stay.

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6 hours ago, Jason said:

Robben got injured a lot and yet, Bayern still stuck with him till the end. 

Pretty much what superblue said and do you realy want a star player that will be injured that much? Key game comes, he gets injured etc. It would be very frustrating. Hopefuly he recovers from these injuries.

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9 hours ago, BluesMadLad said:

I actually think pulisic will turn out to be better than hazard 

That would be crazy. Name me any player better than Hazard who is as injury prone as Puli. There is a case for prime Robben and that’s it. Bayern used to have one of the best medical teams in the world btw who they consulted before moving for Robben. They reduced his  time off. Our medical team seems a bit meh. 
very rare example of a player fixing his injury problems late  in his career. Usually either players figure it out early or never as healing processes take longer with age 

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15 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

That would be crazy. Name me any player better than Hazard who is as injury prone as Puli. There is a case for prime Robben and that’s it. Bayern used to have one of the best medical teams in the world btw who they consulted before moving for Robben. They reduced his  time off. Our medical team seems a bit meh. 
very rare example of a player fixing his injury problems late  in his career. Usually either players figure it out early or never as healing processes take longer with age 

I never said he would have less injuries than hazard, I said I think he will turn out a better player. Up to himself now to sort out his injury woes , but he definitely has that potential 

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