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18 hours ago, King Kante said:

Well it depends how you look at things. The transfers such as Werner and Pulisic were linked but it looked like they were going elsewhere. Hence, a load of posts about the board not knowing what they were doing, then boom, done deal. 

So, I think this is a slight semantics issue, no the club aren't so discreet that absolutely nothing gets reported (although they have done on occasion) but they work in a way were it seems like we're behind others and/or not doing much. 

My issue with posts here is that there are some people losing their sh*t over not having a signing yet. However, for all we know they could be working hard on Håland. 

Thus, if Håland was announced in four weeks time, people wouldn't class it as discreet as it was reported, however to do a deal like that would mean constant negotiations for months. So, if we do, then we have been discreet currently as there aren't constant updates (like Werner for instance were most of the noise was to the Dippers.)

Watkins raised £35m last season with zero PL experience. Tammy, despite his flaws, is a proven regular scorer in England, is young and has the English tax factor. £35m+ is quite achievable imo as there are plenty of middle PL clubs that need a goal scorer (Brighton, Palace, Newcastle, West Ham etc.)

Does TT really want Rice? The guy isn't very good at breaking the lines with either his passing or running. Imo, if he does come it won't be long before he is converted to a CB role; especially in a 3. 

Villa signing anyone for bigger price tags is a bad example because they’ve spent the best part of between 250-275m in the last 4 or 5 transfer windows, including the 35m on Buendia this summer whilst they have only sold 10m worth of players. They can clearly afford to do those where as the likes of West Ham, Newcastle, Crystal Palace, Brighton etc they will probably not be spending 35-40m on one player unless they sell someone first for big money.

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We're going to end up with Lukaku aren't we.

Fuck a duck.

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2 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Villa signing anyone for bigger price tags is a bad example because they’ve spent the best part of between 250-275m in the last 4 or 5 transfer windows, including the 35m on Buendia this summer whilst they have only sold 10m worth of players. They can clearly afford to do those where as the likes of West Ham, Newcastle, Crystal Palace, Brighton etc they will probably not be spending 35-40m on one player unless they sell someone first for big money.

Most of those clubs can do those sort of prices and have done in the past. West Ham have numerous, Palace did £30m on Benteke. Ok, Newcastle and Brighton haven't but Brighton are a 15+ goal a season striker away from being a comfortable PL team, Tammy is a pretty sure bet to get you that. £35m for isn't completely out of the realms of possibility, especially if they have £50m+ plus in the back pocket for White. 

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1 hour ago, DDA said:

We're going to end up with Lukaku aren't we.

Fuck a duck.

If we buy Lukaku, then everything good I have said about the board for the last 15 months gets taken back immediately. 

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1 hour ago, DDA said:

We're going to end up with Lukaku aren't we.

Fuck a duck.

If you remove Mbappe, Håland, Kane, Lukaku, and Isak (new €90m release clause) from the board then

that leaves the only viable and remotely acceptable (and heads will explode on some of most) options left of quality or potential

 

and BTW I am NOT endorsing moves for all of these but I am going to be thorough (in other words, if they are NOT on this list it is not happening or deffo should not (many ON the list should not happen)

to show you the state of flux atm

EVERY single CF listed on Transfermarkt is/was THEORETCALLY available (and no I do not mean a psycho bid, etc that it would take for a Pedri or de Bruyne or Kimmich or Foden, etc, unless you count Kane as a psycho bid, BUT Kane wants to leave, if he did not, he would be the only untouchable) every single one (I have never seen this before for a position, let alone CF)

(CR7 and Immobile would be SO hard to come here (CR7 due to Manure ties) or simply get to move (Immobile due to he absolutely doesn't want to leave Rome, but Lazio WOULD sell him for a high price) and some have already moved

 

in bold (the first 3) are the ONLY three left I can endorse (plus 3 youth potentials we should monitor but nor buy this summer)


Robert Lewandowski

Dusan Vlahovic

Dominic Calvert-Lewin

 

then the many names we have been linked with


Lautaro Martínez (great player but NOT what we need)
Gabriel Jesus   
Richarlison   
Victor Osimhen   
Youssef En-Nesyri    (only one I might say is a decent buy, IF we fail on all above in bold and IF he is fairly priced (max £25-30m)
Gerard Moreno    
Mauro Icardi   
Moise Kean  
Andrea Belotti    
Ollie Watkins 
Ivan Toney  
Patrik Schick    
Danny Ings        
  

3 youth:

Jonathan David   (wait a year)

Adam Hlozek   (wait 2 years)

Kaio Jorge   (wait 2 years)

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58 minutes ago, Vesper said:

If you remove Mbappe, Håland, Kane, Lukaku, and Isak (new €90m release clause) from the board then

that leaves the only viable and remotely acceptable (and heads will explode on some of most) options left of quality or potential

 

and BTW I am NOT endorsing moves for all of these but I am going to be thorough (in other words, if they are NOT on this list it is not happening or deffo should not (many ON the list should not happen)

to show you the state of flux atm

EVERY single CF listed on Transfermarkt is/was THEORETCALLY available (and no I do not mean a psycho bid, etc that it would take for a Pedri or de Bruyne or Kimmich or Foden, etc, unless you count Kane as a psycho bid, BUT Kane wants to leave, if he did not, he would be the only untouchable) every single one (I have never seen this before for a position, let alone CF)

(CR7 and Immobile would be SO hard to come here (CR7 due to Manure ties) or simply get to move (Immobile due to he absolutely doesn't want to leave Rome, but Lazio WOULD sell him for a high price) and some have already moved

 

in bold (the first 3) are the ONLY three left I can endorse (plus 3 youth potentials we should monitor but nor buy this summer)


Robert Lewandowski

Dusan Vlahovic

Dominic Calvert-Lewin

 

then the many names we have been linked with


Lautaro Martínez (great player but NOT what we need)
Gabriel Jesus   
Richarlison   
Victor Osimhen   
Youssef En-Nesyri    (only one I might say is a decent buy, IF we fail on all above in bold and IF he is fairly priced (max £25-30m)
Gerard Moreno    
Mauro Icardi   
Moise Kean  
Andrea Belotti    
Ollie Watkins 
Ivan Toney  
Patrik Schick    
Danny Ings        
  

3 youth:

Jonathan David   (wait a year)

Adam Hlozek   (wait 2 years)

Kaio Jorge   (wait 2 years)

Outside of Lewa, Håland and Kane (and even him I have doubts about owing to his ankles) I'd rather just stick with what we had last season. 

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19 minutes ago, King Kante said:

Outside of Lewa, Håland and Kane (and even him I have doubts about owing to his ankles) I'd rather just stick with what we had last season. 

Dusan Vlahovic 👍🏽 (IF we do not get Lewa, and obviously fail on the other big 4 names)

its either him or DCL 

or stand pat for me, unless we dice roll on Jonathan David at a low price

(again that is IF we fail on the Big 5) and as like I stated, Isak is off the table now as we will NOT pay €90m for him (and he was never really a Big 5 member at all anyway, the ONLY other striker you could, perhaps toss in and make it a Big 6 is Lautaro)

 

btw, you forget Mbappe on your 'outside of' comment

I also disagree with you on Lukaku

if we fail on the other 4 (which is super likely) he is BY FAR the best remaining CF on the planet (that said, I do NOT see the board buying him, due to the fact we sold him before for far less)

 

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I have to say, I do really like the look of Vlahovic. That could be a good shout.

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3 minutes ago, DDA said:

I have to say, I do really like the look of Vlahovic. That could be a good shout.

 

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If we’re fine letting Oli go then surely something is happening, right?

Think we can dash any thinking that we’ll just stick with what we have if we let the only other striker Tuchel sort of trusted.

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10 minutes ago, Pizy said:

If we’re fine letting Oli go then surely something is happening, right?

Think we can dash any thinking that we’ll just stick with what we have if we let the only other striker Tuchel sort of trusted.

perhaps we actually ARE much closer to signing Håland than we all believe

I think banging down €140-150m (£120-128m) would turn Dortmund's heads and still leave us £122-130m to play with (IF the pre-window quoted £250m in the pot figure for transfers is to be believed)

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New Napoli boss Luciano Spalletti admits he 'might' have spoken to Chelsea left-back Emerson Palmieri about a move to Serie A after playing under him at Roma with the Italy star out of favour at Stamford Bridge

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9770989/Chelsea-Napoli-boss-Luciano-Spalletti-admits-spoken-Emerson-Palmieri.html

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Something is happening here, this signals to me the club have their targets and sights set to sign a big player.

Tammy is as good as gone TT doesn't rate him, it's Lukaku or Haaland.

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3 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Something is happening here, this signals to me the club have their targets and sights set to sign a big player.

Tammy is as good as gone TT doesn't rate him, it's Lukaku or Haaland.

Its not Lukaku imo, he has said several times already he aint moving away from Inter. Best for all parties if its Hårland

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7 hours ago, Pizy said:

If we’re fine letting Oli go then surely something is happening, right?

Think we can dash any thinking that we’ll just stick with what we have if we let the only other striker Tuchel sort of trusted.

 

6 hours ago, Vesper said:

perhaps we actually ARE much closer to signing Håland than we all believe

I think banging down €140-150m (£120-128m) would turn Dortmund's heads and still leave us £122-130m to play with (IF the pre-window quoted £250m in the pot figure for transfers is to be believed)

I don't think Giroud leaving changes anything yet? Let's not forget our squad is bloated anyway and last season, Tuchel only had Giroud or Abraham on the bench (he had both in CL games but more subs were allowed). Don't think anything will happen yet until we know for sure someone is gonna take Abraham off us and we're getting someone in. Giroud's spot could now be open to the likes of Broja or even Soonsup-Bell to be in the first team. 

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