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58 minutes ago, King Kante said:

I hope it is either Zappa or Emerson, Alonso is handy and losing AC would just be pure madness. 

Alonso been a decent player for us but is 30 now and this might be the only way we can move him on. 

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1 hour ago, Styl1994 said:

Alonso been a decent player for us but is 30 now and this might be the only way we can move him on. 

But why do we want to move him on? He is a handy player for certain situations. I would say all the following players need to go before him: 

Emerson 

Zappa

Barkley 

RLC

Baba

Drinky

Baka

Batsh*t

Kepa

 

While there are also arguments that the following are also less useful: 

Giroud 

Zouma

Tammy

For me, if we plan on having a LWB2 he is by far and away the best we're going to have as we are not going out and getting a Gosens for instance. 

Only way it makes sense is if the plan is to have Hakimi as RWB1 and LWB2. 

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5 hours ago, King Kante said:

But why do we want to move him on? He is a handy player for certain situations. I would say all the following players need to go before him: 

Emerson 

Zappa

Barkley 

RLC

Baba

Drinky

Baka

Batsh*t

Kepa

 

While there are also arguments that the following are also less useful: 

Giroud 

Zouma

Tammy

For me, if we plan on having a LWB2 he is by far and away the best we're going to have as we are not going out and getting a Gosens for instance. 

Only way it makes sense is if the plan is to have Hakimi as RWB1 and LWB2. 

On 18/06/2021 at 03:27, avrobsws said:

 

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Next seasons squad:

GK

Mendy, Areola/Romero, GK3

CB

Rudiger, Silva, Christensen, Azpi, Zouma/CB, Ampadu/Guehi

WB

Chilwell, Alonso/LB2, Hakimi, James

CM

Kante, Jorginho, Kovacic + CM

AM

Mount, Havertz, Pulisic, Hudson Odoi, Ziyech

ST

Werner, Haaland?/CF, Giroud?, Broja

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9 hours ago, King Kante said:

Haven't I? I thought the question was why I was so confident about it? If the question, is what if the PSG rumours are true, then firstly, that is a hypothetical, secondly, then it means I am wrong. 

Sorry if I am being slow, it has been a long day! 

The initial question I asked was this

18 hours ago, Jas said:

But what if the Hakimi-PSG stories were true? What if he really does prefer PSG? 

 

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31 minutes ago, Jas said:

The initial question I asked was this

 

Well, then my confidence is misplaced! As I am just basing it on my hunch/own limited reading of the situation. 

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30 minutes ago, Jas said:

 

If Inter really do need the cash by the 30th June, this will be done shortly. I'd imagine both Chelea and PSG will offer something similar i.e. something in and around €65-€75m (of equivalent with players) and then have then leave it with them and allow time to do its business. I mean what is their other solution? 

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Any Italian speaking fans in here, or Italian based.   Just to give us an idea for the Italian media, can someone sum up whether the following are reliable, or pretty poor

 

Corriere delo sport,  Gazetta delo sport, tuttosport, mediaset... Pedulla, Di marzio.   obviously we know di marzio is decent

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19 hours ago, King Kante said:

I actually think we'll get him. I mean, we're actually a much better fit for him as we play a pretty pure 343/3421. Furthermore, if the Håland stuff is true, who do you want to be crossing into? Håland/Giroud/Havertz/Alonso (when he plays) or Neymar/Mbappe/Icardi? If he goes to PSG, he will have to pretty much play everything to feet. 

Personally, I think the reason it is taking a while is that Inter are milking the offers. PSG are clearly interested so they'll ride us for all we're worth. 

I just think PSG will slap 70m euros down and be done with it.  If Inter desperately need the cash, i think they'd prefer that to our offer of 60 plus Alonso.  Even though its perhaps better overall

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4 minutes ago, ChelseaFanUK said:

I just think PSG will slap 70m euros down and be done with it.  If Inter desperately need the cash, i think they'd prefer that to our offer of 60 plus Alonso.  Even though its perhaps better overall

Inter will not take (if cash only) 70m euros atm. It is €80m or bust. Think about what you just typed. You just valued Alonso at only £8.5m quid, which is madness if any team thinks they could buy him from us for that this summer. I would 1000% rather have him at backup LWB than Emerson anyday this coming season. Of course, I have been saying Gosens for last 2 years, and flush both of them.

Still am seething we turned down £45m for Marcos in 2018 (even worse was the £65m turndown for Willian). Fucking Sarri and some of the board.

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I just hope we don't panic like we have form for if the main targets aren't secured.

I don't mind if we have a couple of top targets for example at centre back or centre midfield where there are potentially multiple options available.

But the wing back roles are more specialist, hence less quality supply and the striking options go from a couple of top end options, immediately down to risky punts.

If Hakimi doesn't join, then I don't want us buying a right wing back for the sake of it (Traore for example). We want to be giving ourselves the best possible opportunity to build the club up so the Champions League win wasn't just a one off but the start of something. 

It's been mentioned that Chelsea and Tuchel this summer are looking at quality over quantity and I hope they live up to that.

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1 minute ago, Jas said:

https://as.com/futbol/2021/06/19/primera/1624098087_797793.html

AS linking us with Isak. Says club view him as an alternative if we can't get Haaland etc.

He's worked with Tuchel previously at Dortmund.

I like Isak, I think he has a lot of potential and plenty of scope for development.

However the talk of around £70m just makes him far too much of a risk, as he hasn't done enough to justify such a fee and he hasn't yet shown he can be a prolific goal scorer. If we were talking £30 - 40m, I wouldn't mind him as an alternative to Haaland because we'd potentially be able to sell Tammy to help fund him and I don't think he'd then inhibit us buying another striker next summer if we needed/decided. But the price being quoted is just far too high to take that chance, and I think would then make it difficult for us to go back into the market next summer for a Haaland.

If we're talking that level of money it needs to be a more proven commodity.

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22 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

I like Isak, I think he has a lot of potential and plenty of scope for development.

However the talk of around £70m just makes him far too much of a risk, as he hasn't done enough to justify such a fee and he hasn't yet shown he can be a prolific goal scorer. If we were talking £30 - 40m, I wouldn't mind him as an alternative to Haaland because we'd potentially be able to sell Tammy to help fund him and I don't think he'd then inhibit us buying another striker next summer if we needed/decided. But the price being quoted is just far too high to take that chance, and I think would then make it difficult for us to go back into the market next summer for a Haaland.

If we're talking that level of money it needs to be a more proven commodity.

€70m (£60m), not £70m

Dortmund had a €30m (£25.5m) buyback that kicked in this month, BUT now I am seeing articles saying Real Sociedad have 'gotten rid' of that, but no explanation as to how they did so. I have never really heard of this before, and the only way I can see it is IF Dortmund accepted a big cash buyout to make the buyback null and void.

Alexander Isak's buy-back clause situation and what it could mean for Premier League suitors

Real Sociedad have managed to rid of Alexander Isak's buy-back clause which strengthens their transfer stance amid interest from Premier League sides like Chelsea

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/alexander-isak-transfer-interest-latest-24360556

Borussia Dortmund no longer have a buy-back option on Real Sociedad striker Alexander Isak.

The Swedish star has been a revelation in La Liga, scoring 17 times and attracting interest from around Europe.

Dortmund allowed Isak to leave for Sociedad in 2019 but included a clause that allowed them to buy the striker back for £25m.

The Spanish side have managed to rid of that buy-back option however meaning they can now name their price.

Isak continues to impress at Euro 2020 and put in a man of the match display against Slovakia recently.

Chelsea are among those keen on the 21-year-old with Thomas Tuchel knowing the striker from his time at Dortmund.

Sociedad are adamant he will not be sold for less than his £60m buyout clause but the Blues are looking to add a striker this summer.

Dortmund's handling of Isak was a cause of tension between Tuchel and the Bundesliga club as he wasn't informed of his return in January 2017.

The German spoke highly of the striker even then, saying: "Alex is a very strong striker, who can play with his back toward goal and is strong in the combination. He scores a lot of goals, so it is great to have him here.

"The signing of Isak makes perfect sense. This gives the club a long-term solution for the position of striker. Isak is a very talented player.

 

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Inter Milan outline new condition for Chelsea to complete Achraf Hakimi transfer

The Blues continue to be linked with the Moroccan wing-back but Inter first have to sell another player before they contemplate letting him go

https://www.football.london/Chelsea-fc/transfer-news/Chelsea-hakimi-condition-inter-milan-20862952

Chelsea continue to be strongly linked with a move for Inter Milan’s Achraf Hakimi.

Competing with Paris Saint-Germain for his signature, the Blues have reportedly plotted a swap deal involving current defender Marcos Alonso.

The Spaniard appears unlikely to have a future at Stamford Bridge beyond the summer, with Chelsea boss Thomas Tuchel preferring England international Ben Chilwell.

Meanwhile, the arrival of Alonso has reportedly been approved by Inter’s newly appointed boss Simone Inzaghi.

However, there is a potential problem in Marina Granovskaia’s plan in that Inter’s current wing-back option Ivan Perisic must be sold in order for the Serie A champions to accept any deal involving Alonso.

According to FCinternews, a sale of the Croatian international this summer is “essential” should the swap deal be accepted.

A finalist of the World Cup in 2018, the 32-year-old is out of contract next summer and is apparently being eyed by Bundesliga clubs which could potentially make a sale a little easier.

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13 minutes ago, Vesper said:

€70m (£60m), not £70m

Dortmund had a €30m (£25.5m) buyback that kicked in this month, BUT now I am seeing articles saying Real Sociedad have 'gotten rid' of that, but no explanation as to how they did so. I have never really heard of this before, and the only way I can see it is IF Dortmund accepted a big cash buyout to make the buyback null and void.

Even then though it's still too high.

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Settling for a much lesser player after missing out on our top target is dumb. If not Haaland just invest heavily in other areas of the team and pray we make top 4 or win the CL again and can try for him next year.

If we buy Isak for big money and he sucks we’re stuck with him and one of our rivals could sign Haaland.

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1 minute ago, Pizy said:

Settling for a much lesser player after missing out on our top target is dumb. If not Haaland just invest heavily in other areas of the team and pray we make top 4 or win the CL again and can try for him next year.

If we buy Isak for big money and he sucks we’re stuck with him and one of our rivals could sign Haaland.

pray we make top 4  Not a option we are not Tottenham 

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