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24 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

I think the Bundesliga is a difficult league to judge players on. Even Batshuayi managed to look quality. Far as I'm concerned, most Bundesliga fans don't rate Andre Silva. (penalty merchant as well)

Tammy has proven himself in arguably the most difficult league in the world. People tend to criticise his overall game, but at Dortmund he would be at the focal point of so many creative outlets. You just have to look at Haaland's metrics and see how little involved he needs to be in the build up. I've always been adamant that when you have Tammy in front of goal, he will likely find the ball in the back of the net. He can only get better and on a team like Dortmund, in a league that provides so much space for attackers, I think he would absolutely flourish. Far more than Silva. 

Personal opinion obviously. 

I don't necessarily disagree with your reasoning but it's no guarantee Abraham will be successful there. I mean for example, Immobile went to Dortmund and couldn't hack it in the Bundesliga but was/is prolific in Serie A. Even though Abraham may know where the goal is, his overall game can leave a lot to be desired. It's arguably the reason why Tuchel has not fancied him and it's probably not lost on Dortmund either. Plus financially, it also doesn't make sense for them as mentioned earlier.

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5 hours ago, chippy said:

 I am completely blind to what Kovacic is supposed to bring. The absolute definition of a nothing kind of footballer.

 

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5 hours ago, Jas said:

I don't necessarily disagree with your reasoning but it's no guarantee Abraham will be successful there. I mean for example, Immobile went to Dortmund and couldn't hack it in the Bundesliga but was/is prolific in Serie A. Even though Abraham may know where the goal is, his overall game can leave a lot to be desired. It's arguably the reason why Tuchel has not fancied him and it's probably not lost on Dortmund either. Plus financially, it also doesn't make sense for them as mentioned earlier.

I'm rather surprised Michy hasn't been mentioned at all. I guess a positive Euros might change that.

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13 hours ago, Jas said:

I don't necessarily disagree with your reasoning but it's no guarantee Abraham will be successful there. I mean for example, Immobile went to Dortmund and couldn't hack it in the Bundesliga but was/is prolific in Serie A. Even though Abraham may know where the goal is, his overall game can leave a lot to be desired. It's arguably the reason why Tuchel has not fancied him and it's probably not lost on Dortmund either. Plus financially, it also doesn't make sense for them as mentioned earlier.

Tammy is always going to look like Bambi on ice, but he still scores enough goals to be a decent enough 3rd choice forward for us. TT has treated him as badly as Lamps treated Rudi.

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31 minutes ago, chippy said:

Tammy is always going to look like Bambi on ice, but he still scores enough goals to be a decent enough 3rd choice forward for us. TT has treated him as badly as Lamps treated Rudi.

The ironic thing with Rudiger is most of us were glad that Lampard wanted to push him out and sell him last summer but now want him to stay because of his turnaround under Tuchel. Could point to Lampard being a bad coach/Tuchel being a good coach etc but yeah, hindsight is 20/20 and all that. 

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1 hour ago, Jas said:

The ironic thing with Rudiger is most of us were glad that Lampard wanted to push him out and sell him last summer but now want him to stay because of his turnaround under Tuchel. Could point to Lampard being a bad coach/Tuchel being a good coach etc but yeah, hindsight is 20/20 and all that. 

Could also point to Rüdiger having used the time on the bench to get his shit together,  do some analysis of his play and improve in training. It is easy to point fingers at other but after all the stupid individual not tactical errors Toni committed in 2019/20 even the worst coach in the world would have rightly sat im on the Bench.

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2 hours ago, Jas said:

The ironic thing with Rudiger is most of us were glad that Lampard wanted to push him out and sell him last summer but now want him to stay because of his turnaround under Tuchel. Could point to Lampard being a bad coach/Tuchel being a good coach etc but yeah, hindsight is 20/20 and all that. 

It was instant transformation under TT. From looking completely shot to playing better than ever.

It shows just how important man management can be at the top level. Some players need a bollocking while others need an arm around the shoulder. Love to know what TT did to get Rudi playing so well so quickly?

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3 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

Could also point to Rüdiger having used the time on the bench to get his shit together,  do some analysis of his play and improve in training. It is easy to point fingers at other but after all the stupid individual not tactical errors Toni committed in 2019/20 even the worst coach in the world would have rightly sat im on the Bench.

Yes, we can point to individual mistakes but at the same time, Lampard's carefree tactical approach didn't help matters. Players' shortcomings were left exposed on a weekly basis and they eventually lost confidence, especially when results started to go south and that spiraled out of control. Tuchel came in, implemented a solid system with clear tactical instructions and one that hides the players' shortcoming as much as possible and lets them shine with their strengths. He has also got more out of them mentally and emotionally as well. 

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3 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

but after all the stupid individual not tactical errors Toni committed in 2019/20 even the worst coach in the world would have rightly sat im on the Bench.

Pretty sure others did more. Rudiger and Zouma as CB pairing last season kept clean sheet everytime except one game (Lille - we still won that game). This continued this season with Frank. But he played them so rarely. 

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3 minutes ago, whats happening said:

hakimi and lukaku both scoring tonight.

Lukaku has been amazing in the last year. I don't understand how some of you don't want at Chelsea. 

Well, that's a end subject. Lukaku said that he will stay at inter in next season

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10 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

 

"According to the report, the Champions League winners will let Inter choose between other players who can potentially be included in the deal: Davide Zappacosta, Mateo Kovacic and Tammy Abraham."

Kovacic? 🤣

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2 hours ago, Jas said:

"According to the report, the Champions League winners will let Inter choose between other players who can potentially be included in the deal: Davide Zappacosta, Mateo Kovacic and Tammy Abraham."

Kovacic? 🤣

It may be because the club want a new CM. If they do that, he or Jorgi may be vulnerable as they could end up 4th choice. Furthermore, if TT/the club want Billy to stay, that may also cause issues. 

However, I don't believe that would happen. Additionally, if Kovacic was included it would virtually be a straight swap. Absolute max would be Kova and €5m. 

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