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7 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

I think it is the Leicester game. A loss today and a win vs Fulham are expected no matter our form. But Leicester is the kind of game we have been struggling with all season. Teams that are good but slightly worse than us and which we should beat in an open game. There we have underachieved massively. If we beat Leicester convincingly It might be a sign of improvement. If we still look clueless, the board may decide to part ways. 

That's what I think as well.

I think our top 4 quest is all but snapped at this point. Defeat in the Leicester game will mean we are well short off our mid season objective.

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I can't actually believe how well coached we are. Puts it in further perspective when you see the garbage United and Arsenal are spewing. I love the fact Frank isn't so stubborn to try and do it

Very confused, can only assume the ones being somewhat negative did not watch the game? Aside from Dave and Zouma, I thought we played really well against the European Champions. I was shocked at time

Our pressing game was superb, and made all the difference today! 4-3-3 with Mount and Havertz to harass opponents and Kante to sweep up behind...that's the way to go. And we have two bombing

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If the club want to sack Lampard, they should probably do so ASAP. We have 1 week till the FA Cup game and 2 weeks till our next league game. Plenty of time for the manager to work on things...

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1 minute ago, iceboy said:

 

Have they been saving that piece for the eventual defeat today? :lol: 

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4 minutes ago, Jason said:

Have they been saving that piece for the eventual defeat today? :lol: 

Read the comments, this is actually true.

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Frank Lampard’s job at Chelsea under threat, replacement being looked at

https://theathletic.com/2298431/2021/01/03/lampard-chelsea-sacked-next-manager/

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Frank Lampard’s job as manager is under serious threat, The Athletic understands.

A humbling fourth defeat in seven matches against a Manchester City side will only intensify the questions about the team’s broader direction under the current management team, and sources have told The Athletic that Chelsea have begun to explore alternative plans with a view to replacing Lampard if the current slump continues, if not sooner.

This is a fluid situation, and as such there is no definitive timeframe for when Lampard might be sacked; it’s possible that he could still see out the season if results improve. But the history of the Roman Abramovich era tells us that once conversations of this nature begin taking place within the corridors of power at Stamford Bridge, managerial change tends to become a question of ‘When?’ rather than ‘If?’.

The 3-1 home defeat by Manchester City leaves Chelsea seventh in the Premier League table and with Aston Villa and Southampton below them with games in hand. Although they are only three points off the top four, the club’s hierarchy are concerned by recent form and the struggles of summer signings Kai Havertz and Timo Werner.

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As recently as one month ago Chelsea were on a 17-match unbeaten run across all competitions, within striking distance of Premier League leaders Liverpool and had qualified for the Champions League knockout stage as winners of Group E with a game to spare. Lampard appeared to have found a promising balance with his shift to a fluid 4-3-3 system and was regularly fielding — and swiftly dismissing — questions from journalists about his team’s title chances.

The subsequent dip in form has been startling. Prior to the City game, Chelsea lost away from home against Everton, Wolves and Arsenal in the Premier League and even their sole victory in the last seven games, a 3-0 home win over West Ham, was far less convincing than the scoreline suggested. In the wake of a limp 3-1 defeat at the Emirates Stadium, Lampard publicly criticised his players and singled out Werner, who was substituted along with Mateo Kovacic at half-time.

Chelsea’s on-pitch struggles have been compounded by worsening issues off it; sources have told The Athletic that tensions between Lampard and a number of individuals in his squad — particularly those who have found themselves outside his group of trusted regular starters — have been growing for some time, and now factor into the board’s assessment of the overall health of the situation at Cobham.

Lampard’s biggest challenge this season was always going to be remoulding his team in a manner that maximised Werner and  Havertz, Chelsea’s marquee signing of a spectacular transfer window and arguably the club’s boldest statement of intent in the transfer market since acquiring Eden Hazard from Lille in the summer of 2012. Neither player has produced more than flashes of their best football so far this season.

After a bright start, Werner’s performances have declined sharply on the left of Lampard’s three-man attack, a significant tactical departure from the withdrawn striker role that helped him flourish under Julian Nagelsmann for RB Leipzig last season. In addition to several gilt-edged misses, he has looked increasingly ill at ease with the attacking and defensive demands of operating as a winger in recent weeks and has now failed to score in his last 12 appearances for Chelsea (if he fails to score against City) — his worst scoring drought for more than four years.

Havertz’s struggles since arriving from Bayer Leverkusen have been even more pronounced. Lampard has consistently defended the 21-year-old in public, pointing out last week that he trained with Chelsea for only five days before the start of the Premier League season and has also been hampered by the lingering after-effects of contracting COVID-19, which left him bed-bound for more than a week in November. But it also remains unclear whether he has a natural role in the team’s current 4-3-3 system, and Lampard has deployed him as a No 10, a No 8 and a false nine to varying degrees of success.

Primarily though, Lampard is being judged on results. Defeat against City means Chelsea have three fewer points after the first 17 matches of this Premier League season (26) than they did at the same stage of the 2019-20 campaign (29) — a return that is regarded as unacceptable given the club spent well in excess of £200 million in transfer fees and made vast salary commitments to bring in Havertz, Werner, Ben Chilwell, Hakim Ziyech, Edouard Mendy and Thiago Silva during the shortened off-season.

Lampard has repeatedly cited that quick turnaround as a reason why immediate expectations of this exciting Chelsea squad should be tempered, and there is no doubt that injuries — most notably to Ziyech — have also had a negative impact on recent performances. But his pleas for understanding are not convincing the key decision-makers at Stamford Bridge as they consider the best way to maximise the talent they have assembled.

Replacing a manager mid-season is never ideal, and it would be logical to view Mauricio Pochettino’s decision to take the Paris Saint-Germain job as a positive for Lampard’s job security; the Argentine has long been admired at Stamford Bridge, and would certainly have been regarded as one of the most attractive candidates — particularly given his free agent status — if the position had become available. Chelsea have always backed their judgement in these situations in the past, however, and will not hesitate to act sooner rather than later this time around if they decide a change is required.

Asked about his aspirations for the future last month, Lampard made it clear that he would love to stay at Chelsea beyond the remainder of his current contract, which expires in June 2022. The lack of noise suggesting that he would be offered an extension was notable then, and it is now clear that he would do well just to see out a second full season at the club where he made himself a legend. From Chelsea’s perspective, at least getting rid of him would cost a lot less than some of their previous managers.

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1 minute ago, iceboy said:

There is no way back for him. Tensions between him and some players. 

That's the way it looks unfortunately. Its like a point of no return.

If the Chelsea board were like Arsenal and gave Frank more time like Arteta got, there could be a turning point eventually, but we could be swimming in the relegation zone by then. No way they will allow team to drop that low after these investments.

Feel bad for Frank. He is the least experienced manager in the league. Arteta at least had years serving as assistant under Pep, and Ole has experience relegating teams.

In hindsight, it looks like he should have taken his time like JT or even Gerrard, and taken up reigns at a place with less scrutiny. The latter leading Rangers to a title is something similar to what we would have liked to see Frank do as well.

Can't complain that he came in when he did, though. He made us finish top 4 last season when we were practically written off following Hazard's departure

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1 minute ago, Jason said:

 

Pathetic. Banging my head now. PULL THE TRIGGER ON LAMPARD NOW WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR, BOARD?!?!?

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Only top half side we have beaten this season is West Ham. They are 10th and we were lucky to even beat them.

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2 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

 

If the Chelsea board were like Arsenal and gave Frank more time like Arteta got, 

Frank has been at Chels half a year longer than Arteta has been at Arse

Arteta only started a year and a week ago

Boxing Day 2019

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2 minutes ago, Jason said:

Only top half side we have beaten this season is West Ham. They are 10th and we were lucky to even beat them.

and those pikey twats did THE DOUBLE on us last year

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